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To: Turret Gunner A20
Our all Volunteer force is so far superior to a Conscript force that it is absurd to even be discussing this.

As any trainer can tell you motivation is one of the key factors of how successful a person will be in any given task. A Volunteer has all ready mentally made a commitment that the coerced will NEVER have.

The ONLY people who think this is a good idea are senile old fools like Rangle.

2 posted on 07/21/2007 8:21:18 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Ignorance can be cured by education, stupidity is a terminal condition)
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To: MNJohnnie
The ONLY people who think this is a good idea are senile old fools like Rangle.

Characterizing Rangle as a senile old fool is not wrong.

But that's not why he (and others) push for conscription. The desire is three-fold:

1) Weaken our military (we're the biggest problem in the world -- we need to be taken down a peg).
2) Weaken George Bush (the war is his fault. The draft would make the war -- and Bush -- less popular).
3) Bring back 1960's style demonstrations. The Days of Rage were a high-point of the Boomer's childhood. They want to go back to that.

7 posted on 07/21/2007 8:27:48 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Progressives like to keep doing the things that didn't work in the past.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Rangel is a smart guy, but still a devious rat. He said what he did for political reasons, not because he believed it was true.


8 posted on 07/21/2007 8:30:21 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: MNJohnnie

I am a total supporter of the All Volunteer force. If someone like Rangle made the argument that a draft would increase the number of manly men who understand the meaning of patriotism, they might have a defensible arguement. A friend of mine knew a French Army officer who said that what the draft did for France (historically).
But Rangel would never make that arguement.


11 posted on 07/21/2007 8:39:12 AM PDT by sgtyork (Liberalism worthy of the name emphasizes freedom of the individual, democracy and the rule of law.)
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To: MNJohnnie

I believe a draft army is, at this time in history, inefficient, but I see signs that others in gov’t, not just Dums, are moving in that direction. The latest ads for the Army state that $50K for college can be had for a commitment of 2 (TWO) years plus training. This is a drop in service time to about 32months. If this becomes the standard then one of the benfits of the volunteer Army, a trained long term force will go by the wayside. Could a draft be far behind.


16 posted on 07/21/2007 10:01:39 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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