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Bush Says He Considered Action in Darfur (Border Agent Case Mentioned--Phooey!)
The Washington Post ^ | Jul7 20, 2007 | Peter Baker

Posted on 07/20/2007 5:59:50 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner

NASHVILLE, July 19 -- President Bush said Thursday that he had considered unilaterally sending U.S. troops to Darfur to stop the mass slaughter in that Sudanese region but decided against it in favor of a multinational response that he conceded has been "slow" and "tedious."

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The audience was friendly and gave Bush a standing ovation for his position on the Iraq war. But several questioners, unhappy that more has not been done to tighten the borders, pressed him on immigration. Bush defended his plan, which died in the Senate, to grant legal status to illegal immigrants already in the United States and predicted employers could soon face a labor shortage.

Bush rejected a plea to pardon two Border Patrol officers imprisoned after shooting a drug smuggler, a cause celebre among many angry about illegal immigration.

"No, I won't make you that promise," Bush told a woman who raised the case. He called the prosecutor "a dear friend of mine from Texas" and defended the verdict. "I know this is an emotional issue. But people need to look at the facts."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush; ice; immigration; sutton
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Although the story is about Darfur, the really key part here is Bush's really pitiful response to questions about pardoning Compean and Ramos. He openly admits that Sutton is a "dear friend," i.e. Texas crony, and I imagine that this is the real reason that he won't pardon those two border patrolmen, simply to avoid embarrassing his dear friend Sutton. Pathetic and disgusting!
1 posted on 07/20/2007 5:59:53 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Johnny Sutton is a Bush Buddy.

And that explains the thing completely.


2 posted on 07/20/2007 6:02:09 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Editing Error:
President Bush said Thursday that he had considered unilaterally sending U.S. troops to Darfur to stop the mass slaughter in that Sudanese region but decided against it in favor of a multinational response that he conceded has been "slow" and "tedious. doing nothing, just like with our Southern Border."

There fixed it.

3 posted on 07/20/2007 6:08:01 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
President Bush said Thursday that he had considered unilaterally sending U.S. troops to Darfur to stop the mass slaughter in that Sudanese region but decided against it in favor of a multinational response that he conceded has been "slow" and "tedious."

What is our national interest?

No blood for popularity poll ratings.

4 posted on 07/20/2007 6:24:29 AM PDT by weegee (If the Fairness Doctrine is imposed on USA who will CNN news get to read the conservative rebuttal)
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To: weegee

Darfur is a perfect examp;e of a more nuanced response made in agreement through the UN and our allies in Europe and Africa.


5 posted on 07/20/2007 6:28:31 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Makes you think he isn’t worried about “embarassing” Johnny Sutton, rather that Sutton’s overzealous response was the Bush Administration’s supported response.

John Cornyn (R) (also a friend of Bush and Sutton) throttled back his venom when he finally got the hearings he requested.

NOW that the hearings are over, Republicans like Sutton and Cornyn are going on record with backpeddle statements.

Sutton was responsible for the charges these men got. Sutton was responsible for the supression of details like drug running and the get out of jail free visa.

And what about the people who lied to Congress about details like “I’m gonna shoot some Mexicans today”?


6 posted on 07/20/2007 6:30:23 AM PDT by weegee (If the Fairness Doctrine is imposed on USA who will CNN news get to read the conservative rebuttal)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Did you listen to the testimony Sutton gave before Feinswine and Cornyn, who read from court transcripts? It was on CSpan again this morning.
Compean and Ramos were mischarged [I bet agents aren’t charged like that again], but
1) they were dirty BP agents [failing to report the incident, destroying evidence]
2)—and they asked their co-workers to compromise themselves and jeopardize their careers to help destroy evidence. That’s wrong.
It’s good that they’re out of law enforcement.


7 posted on 07/20/2007 6:34:39 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Thompson-Hunter '08-- imwithfred.com)
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Employers could face a labor shortage

Forcing them to increase wages. Oh, the horror! Maybe a few companies will even have to kick in for some medical insurance or pay overtime. What a hideous indignity they must live through. I am a lifelong Republican. I also work for a paycheck. Does Bush know who he represents?

8 posted on 07/20/2007 6:39:58 AM PDT by Greg F (<><)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Unless we are going to KILL radical muzzies in darfur... screw darfur.

LLS


9 posted on 07/20/2007 6:43:23 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: Clara Lou

I take it you didn’t agree with the Republican senator on the panel who said it should be legal to shoot drug dealers at the border who are running away. I watched the whole two hours and I personally thought Diane Feinstein had Johnny Sutton pissing in his pants. Sutton was pathetic. To you Clara Lou, why don’t you go down there and do two weeks at night on the border defending this country from these drug dealers. George Bush cut Sandy Berger a break why not our two Border Patrol agents?


10 posted on 07/20/2007 6:47:00 AM PDT by Plains Drifter (If guns kill people, wouldn't there be a lot of dead people at gun shows?)
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To: Greg F
Does Bush know who he represents?

He represents the guy who wishes he could make you an indentured servant.
11 posted on 07/20/2007 6:47:24 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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He represents the guy who wishes he could make you an indentured servant.

Nod. I'm starting to take stuff seriously that I thought was a bit off kilter before Bush II.

12 posted on 07/20/2007 7:00:22 AM PDT by Greg F (<><)
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To: savedbygrace
Johnny Sutton is a Bush Buddy.

But this doesn't explain why Bush would knowingly alienate a large percentage of the base.

We need to keep digging into this case. We might find impeachment material.

13 posted on 07/20/2007 7:00:29 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
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Yeah, why would he do something that would mean he wouldn’t get re-elected?

Bush is Buddy driven, man. It explains a lot of otherwise unexplainable actions.


14 posted on 07/20/2007 7:04:34 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

would be a good time to kick out Chinese oil interests in the area also


15 posted on 07/20/2007 7:05:23 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo (Skip the Moon, go for Mars)
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To: Plains Drifter
Oh, I agree--Sutton was very nervous. (I remember his fingers fluttering on a question by Feinswine.)
I take it you didn’t agree with the Republican senator on the panel who said it should be legal to shoot drug dealers at the border who are running away.
Let them make it legal, and it will be fine with me.
Now questions for you: Do you expect law enforcement officers to follow the law? Would you ask your co-workers to jeopardize their own careers to cover your doings?

I think that Bush should commute their sentences because they were stupidly charged.

16 posted on 07/20/2007 7:11:30 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Thompson-Hunter '08-- imwithfred.com)
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To: Clara Lou

Would I ask co-workers to cover my doings — no.

Do I expect peace officers to follow the law — yes. But I expect laws to be reasonable and stem from common sense. And law is black and white, but in real life there is a lot of gray area out in the world. That’s why we have human police officers in the field not robots. I think ten to eleven years in jail is excessive for trying to get rid of empty shell casings because as I followed the hearings there was no other crime committed by these officers and I am giving them the benefit of the doubt since they are on our team and I am not going to give any breaks to the drug dealers or take their word in this matter which is what Johnny Sutton did. These two border officers are in the position they are in because of an overzealous team of civilian prosecutors who fail to remember that these are the people who are on the front line at night trying to make this a safe place for those prosecutors to sleep. I guess, in short, if there’s going to be a break cut to anybody it’s going to be to the guys on our side not the other side.


17 posted on 07/20/2007 10:37:52 AM PDT by Plains Drifter (If guns kill people, wouldn't there be a lot of dead people at gun shows?)
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To: Plains Drifter
I am not going to give any breaks to the drug dealers
Amen to that.
or take their word in this matter which is what Johnny Sutton did.
Ramos and Campeon lied in their testimony. A BA who was present contradicted their testimony.
None of this had to happen. R&C put themselves in the position of being prosecuted--in more ways than one.
18 posted on 07/20/2007 10:52:50 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Thompson-Hunter '08-- imwithfred.com)
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To: Clara Lou

What is this lie that R & C told that the other border agent contradicted? What are the other ways in which they lied “in more ways than one”?


19 posted on 07/20/2007 11:40:04 AM PDT by Plains Drifter (If guns kill people, wouldn't there be a lot of dead people at gun shows?)
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So, you didn’t watch the hearings between Sutton, Feinswine, Cornyn, et al.?
Lie #1) Campean (SP?) testified that about a struggle between him and the Andrade-criminal. According to a BA witness (not Ramos) the struggle C described never happened. C did not fall into the 11-ft. ditch due to a struggle with the creep-drug-smuggler.
Lie #2) After Andrade (the drug smuggler) disappeared, R&C picked up all of the shell casings from their guns that they could find and threw them in the river.
Lie #3) Some time later, they asked some co-worker(s) to go and pick up and shell casings they missed and to discard them.
Lie #4) R&C never filled out a report about what happened, as they were required to do per regulations. (Why?)


20 posted on 07/20/2007 11:54:25 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Thompson-Hunter '08-- imwithfred.com)
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