Posted on 07/19/2007 4:26:07 PM PDT by Bladerunnuh
The caller began: "Sir, I'm calling because of some statements you've been making in the past week about the religion of Islam and … "
Boortz interrupted: It's a cult, it's not even a religion. … "
After a long list of crimes perpetrated all over the world in the name of Islam, the talk host told the caller, "You don't have a word of condemnation in you until the non-Islamic world rises up and starts to make it clear that we are fed up with your damned religion. We've had it up to here.
"And somebody, like I said yesterday, somebody needs to grab the Muslim world by the shirt collar, backhand it a good one, knock it into the damn corner and say straighten up or we're gonna eradicate you beetles from the face of the Earth. … "
CAIR asked its constituents not to contact Boortz, because he "can and will use any comments to further defame Islam and Muslim."
"This clip was offered only to demonstrate
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LOL, I do keep a back-up plan within easy reach.
Of course not. And when we can identify Islamic extremists and terrorists we should wipe the floor with them.
But this is not the same as saying we should "eradicate" and entire religion.
You must be a Muslim (??). I can very easily overlook the “cult” remark as the answer overall was a dead-on-target bell ringer!
Unless you’re either a Muslim or a first-year theology student trying to impress your teachers that you would know the correct usage of the word “cult,” I can’t understand why you object.
I am a Bible school/seminary graduate; have taken the several courses on cults and done the papers for my post-grad work that required mention of “cults.” Actually we learned a standard description of cults, mostly describing pseudo-Christian cults. But looking over the criteria, I could certainly see the word “cult” as befitting Islam - - - certainly not as inappropriate as your objection suggests.
I don’t think Boortz professes to be Christian believer; quite to the contrary, right? Let him use the word “cult” for what is obviously our enemy. (Hitler had a cult following, Stalin had a cult following, the Clintons have cult following, the Muslim hierarchy in Riyadh has a cult following.)
Oh, I almost forgot - - you might be a Muslim.
Good one! ;o)
http://www.dawanet.com/newmuslim/manual/entiremanual.asp
It's mind control through hypnotic triggers and raw fear, plain and simple.
Are you familiar with the detailed rules for life followed by Orthodox Jews, with thousands of years of rules elaborated in the Talmud? They're much more elaborate than the rules for Islam, which actually is in its essence perhaps the simplest of all religions.
I am the infamous poster of #16.
I go to the bathroom any way I please. I try to always remember to put the seat down. :)
Are you aware that there are elaborate rules for using the bathroom in the Law of Moses?
Deuteronomy 23: 12 Designate a place outside the camp where you can go to relieve yourself. 13 As part of your equipment have something to dig with, and when you relieve yourself, dig a hole and cover up your excrement. 14 For the LORD your God moves about in your camp to protect you and to deliver your enemies to you. Your camp must be holy, so that he will not see among you anything indecent and turn away from you.
Actually very good advice from a sanitary standpoint, but not what we traditionally think of as religion.
Prior posts, mine, then yours:
How do the Muslims characterize Christians, I wonder? Do you think they call Christians simply another religion, on a par with their own? We both know the answer to that, so let’s not get too caught up in Bortz’s calling Islam a cult.
So you’re saying it’s OK to elevate our intolerance of each other religions to calling for the “eradication” of each other?
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Is that what I said in my post? No, I said, “let’s not get too caught up in Bortz’s calling Islam a cult.” That’s what I said and what I meant. I advocate tolerance, but Islam does not. That is clear from the failure of CAIR and Islam to take strong positions against the terror that has been committed in the name of Islam.
Tolerance has to give way, however, in the face of acts of war against us. Are you saying that we must tolerate religions that advocate, and practice, the killing of American citizens?
They’ve had their “religious war” since Mad Mo went on his rampage 1400 years ago.
Boortz doesn’t like Christianity, and I’ve never heard him call Christians cultists.
I do not object to the term “cult” as applied to the Islamists. It is entirely appropriate.
I object to applying it to the entire religion of Islam for two reasons:
I personally know Muslims who do not AT ALL fit this stereotype. (However, I am not a Muslim myself.)
It is bad tactics to take actions that will increase your number of enemies. Calling all Muslims terrorists and cultists will tend to cause even moderate Muslims to feel a common cause with the extremists. It’s a bad idea to help your enemy recruit.
BTW, I have no problem with “eradicating” Islamists. Go for it! I have a problem with the idea of “eradicating” all 1B+ Muslims. That would put us better than 80 times ahead of the Nazis.
Somehow I knew if you responded you would say something to this effect.
The answer is no. Jesus built on the words of the prophets that came before him. Jesus said “I come to fulfill the law not destroy it.”
Mohammad on the other hand said that the Jews and Christians had corrupted the word of god and that he had come to be the final prophet that would restore God’s word. (By the way recently found ancient scrolls put this to lie. The ancient books of the Bible are virtually unchanged for at least 3000 years.)
Any Hebrew prophet would have told Mohammad’s follower that the scripture tells you how to live. Jesus when asked what is the greatest commandment? Jesus said love the lord your God with all your heart and the second was love thy neighbor as your self. Jesus certainly never told his followers to go out and kill those who would not be converted he told them that those who would not be converted would face God’s judgment.
Any comparison of Mohammad to Jesus the Christ is a false one. Others with a better handle on scripture I am sure will appear to explain it better.
No Mohammad was a megalomaniacal schizophrenic military dictator, who took his hallucinations and built a religion among the Bedouin.
OMG
(and here we went and 'eradicated' Hitler and Nazism. For shame)
Hey, folks. This additional post by Sherman Logan should tell us all that we are wasting our p*ss bothering to refute this posters remarks. This is the last straw...
Grampa taught me not to "get in a p*ssing contest with a skunk.
To continue to spar with this 'mind' is a colossal waste of time. I don't know if the poster is Islamic or uber liberal - or both - or just plain ignorant. It matters little. He/she's beyond the pale and not worthy even of our ire.
he/she (YOU, the poster) won't get a clue from anything we say - even when, as in my post #150, give them links straight to the source of evil/
We wont be able to inform this poster of anything - he/she already knows it all.
Do you have any criticism for Islam, the religion that refuses to tolerate any other, and will kill those who speak out about their intolerance?
I guess I’ve been excommunicated.
However, the fact remains that Hitler had no desire to fight Britain. This has been known for decades. It’s spelled out in detail in Mein Kampf, where he equally plainly spells out his intention to destroy the Soviet Union and enslave the Slavs.
It is one of the reasons the Brits were able to pull the Dunkirk evacuation off. Hitler was convinced that Britain would make peace at any moment, and he wouldn’t need to capture Britain’s last army.
You apparently get from this that I’m a fan of Hitler. Nothing could be farther from the truth. I’m very glad he and his evil system were destroyed.
But it still doesn’t change the fact that he viewed Britain as a likely ally rather than as an enemy that must be destroyed like France and the USSR. They had to go if he was to control Europe.
Hitler had few ambitions outside Europe. He rightly figured that conquest of Europe to the Urals would keep the Germans busy for some generations.
Check out Jorge and Sherman Logan “In Forum.”
I really don't think it's a "mind control" type issue, more of an indoctrination or, maybe, a brain washing type effort.
Just look at the pictures you see, little kids with ammo belts, guns, the obligatory "Death to Satan (America)" signs, etc.
The kids don't have a chance, so the cycle continues. That whole thing with MM on TV telling the kids that all Jews deserve to die, etc. Generation after generation are taught this non-sense. How do you stop that sheer stupidity and ignorance? And one must remember that these guys have been at this for century's.
How do you stop that?
As far as I am concerned, you can get on your knees and bang your head on rug, facing any direction you care to, 25 times a day. What ever blows your skirt up.
However, society, as a whole does NOT need to accomodate you and your beliefs. Aka, the muzzy cabbies at the MN airport that want - AND GOT - a "foot washing station.", the "no alcohol in my cab" and "no dogs (seeing eye) in my cab" issues.
Not on my watch, b!tch. You do what ever you want, as long as you don't try to make me play your stupid games.
From what I see, so far, the USA needs to deport all of you a$$holes, go crawl back under the rock from whence you came.
You, obviously, are not intellectually equipped to deal the modern world.
Why should we let you poison our culture?
No, go back to the desert and tents and camels, etc.
When you figure out how to play nice with the rest of world, call us.
Your request will be evaluated at that time, using prior actions as the deciding factor.
I just can't believe the posters here that "defend" this crap as a 'religion'.
If Isalm is a religion, I just converted to the 'Holy Church of the ICBM'
You are equating the Jewish religion on a par with Islam? Which peoples do the Jews demand be converted or killed - as a strict tenet of their faith?
Islam, which actually is in its essence perhaps the simplest of all religions
You got me there - real simple: "Convert or die, Infidel"
Talk about appeasement.
BTW, where ARE all those "moderate Muslims" - are they the ones who are speaking out loud and clear against the Islamists? Only we can't hear them...
Furthermore, you both have never acknowledged or admitted that Islam has, is, and always was violent in its conquests; has, is, and always condemns freedom to convert to another religious tradition and unlike ALL OTHER religions (that you will admit even exist) condemns those who do so to DEATH; has, is, and always equates all other people as sub-human and must have less rights than Islamics; has, is, and always works to destroy non-Islamic governments; and has, is, and always has been anti-semitic, just like the Nazi scourge we eliminated from the face of the Earth.
You also have not remembered that there were religions that were also incapable of being part of a free society, such as that of the Aztecs, the Incas, the Olmecs, the Egyptians, the Thuggees... The list could go on for days, but I am sure you both are just searching for something to quote so you can repost the same tired and disgustingly trite conflations of historical Christian and Jewish heresies (as they would be viewed today) to give cover for the current and continuing Islamic barbarism.
You ignore the fact that there are philosophies which cannot co-exist with our own. It only takes a tiny bit of sense to realize that there easily could be a religion that is incompatible with our Constitution. But you both are determined not to admit this. Instead, you intend to insult Christianity and Judaism as much as possible to try to equate those two faiths with Islam. It is at best ignorant, but is most likely because you are both incapable of admitting it. I was the same way, because to admit that in particular, meant that there is only two options for the future:
Either Islam reforms, or we declare it the same as Nazism. In a war for our existence, we will abstain from eliminating them as long as possible, but in the hard choices we may face, survival will trump niceties.
Unfortunately for you two, facts are against you. You know, facts. The things you both have been avoiding, instead making potshots at Christianity for the actions of 4 people over the last 30 years who broke the law and bombed abortion mills which helped murder over 40 million children.
On the other hand, the handful of Danish cartoons about Mohammed resulted in the murder and torture of over 15 people in a SINGLE week. You ignore that 10 to 15 percent of the Muslim world, or around 150 million jabbering murderers, support the murder of Jewish children by suicide bombers and also think Osama Bin Laden is righteous.
Equate that. Understand that. And go back to DU.
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