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To: maine-iac7
And they have an instruction to cover each and every act in their daily lives - EVEN step by step instructions on going to the bathroom. This is the truth. (go to this site and scroll down to the item #5 "Cleanliness". And read some of the others motion by motion instructions in just about every act in their days.)

http://www.dawanet.com/newmuslim/manual/entiremanual.asp

It's mind control through hypnotic triggers and raw fear, plain and simple.

Are you familiar with the detailed rules for life followed by Orthodox Jews, with thousands of years of rules elaborated in the Talmud? They're much more elaborate than the rules for Islam, which actually is in its essence perhaps the simplest of all religions.

I am the infamous poster of #16.

I go to the bathroom any way I please. I try to always remember to put the seat down. :)

Are you aware that there are elaborate rules for using the bathroom in the Law of Moses?

Deuteronomy 23: 12 Designate a place outside the camp where you can go to relieve yourself. 13 As part of your equipment have something to dig with, and when you relieve yourself, dig a hole and cover up your excrement. 14 For the LORD your God moves about in your camp to protect you and to deliver your enemies to you. Your camp must be holy, so that he will not see among you anything indecent and turn away from you.

Actually very good advice from a sanitary standpoint, but not what we traditionally think of as religion.

166 posted on 07/19/2007 6:30:15 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (It's not the heat, it's the stupidity.)
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To: Sherman Logan
Are you familiar with the detailed rules for life followed by Orthodox Jews, with thousands of years of rules elaborated in the Talmud? They're much more elaborate than the rules for Islam, which actually is in its essence perhaps the simplest of all religions.

You are equating the Jewish religion on a par with Islam? Which peoples do the Jews demand be converted or killed - as a strict tenet of their faith?

Islam, which actually is in its essence perhaps the simplest of all religions

You got me there - real simple: "Convert or die, Infidel"

177 posted on 07/19/2007 7:03:38 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ( "...but you can't fool all of the people all the time." LINCOLN)
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To: Sherman Logan; Jorge
I find it illuminating that both of you have repeatedly tried to equate Christianity & Judaism with Islam as if Islam had ever gone through a reform as both of the other faiths have. You both also have never stretched your narrative to acknowledge any information that outright disproves such an equation that are quite numerous in the posts above.

Furthermore, you both have never acknowledged or admitted that Islam has, is, and always was violent in its conquests; has, is, and always condemns freedom to convert to another religious tradition and unlike ALL OTHER religions (that you will admit even exist) condemns those who do so to DEATH; has, is, and always equates all other people as sub-human and must have less rights than Islamics; has, is, and always works to destroy non-Islamic governments; and has, is, and always has been anti-semitic, just like the Nazi scourge we eliminated from the face of the Earth.

You also have not remembered that there were religions that were also incapable of being part of a free society, such as that of the Aztecs, the Incas, the Olmecs, the Egyptians, the Thuggees... The list could go on for days, but I am sure you both are just searching for something to quote so you can repost the same tired and disgustingly trite conflations of historical Christian and Jewish heresies (as they would be viewed today) to give cover for the current and continuing Islamic barbarism.

You ignore the fact that there are philosophies which cannot co-exist with our own. It only takes a tiny bit of sense to realize that there easily could be a religion that is incompatible with our Constitution. But you both are determined not to admit this. Instead, you intend to insult Christianity and Judaism as much as possible to try to equate those two faiths with Islam. It is at best ignorant, but is most likely because you are both incapable of admitting it. I was the same way, because to admit that in particular, meant that there is only two options for the future:

Either Islam reforms, or we declare it the same as Nazism. In a war for our existence, we will abstain from eliminating them as long as possible, but in the hard choices we may face, survival will trump niceties.

Unfortunately for you two, facts are against you. You know, facts. The things you both have been avoiding, instead making potshots at Christianity for the actions of 4 people over the last 30 years who broke the law and bombed abortion mills which helped murder over 40 million children.

On the other hand, the handful of Danish cartoons about Mohammed resulted in the murder and torture of over 15 people in a SINGLE week. You ignore that 10 to 15 percent of the Muslim world, or around 150 million jabbering murderers, support the murder of Jewish children by suicide bombers and also think Osama Bin Laden is righteous.

Equate that. Understand that. And go back to DU.

180 posted on 07/19/2007 7:26:34 PM PDT by Republicanus_Tyrannus
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