"It is not my job to protect anyone, except Islamic terrorists and murderers"
Posted on 07/19/2007 3:00:33 PM PDT by DogByte6RER
Two-hour rape and torture of honour killing girl murdered by her family
Last updated at 22:25pm on 19th July 2007
Horrific details have been revealed of the last hours of the young Kurdish woman murdered by her family for falling in love with the wrong man.
Banaz Mahmod, 20, was brutally raped and stamped on during a two-hour ordeal before being garotted.
One of her killers, the Old Bailey was told, was 30-year-old Mohamad Hama, who had been recruited by Banaz's father Mahmod Mahmod, 52, and his brother Ari, 51.
Both were found guilty of murder last month.
The shocking details of the killing came to light when Hama was secretly recorded talking to a friend in prison.
He admitted "slapping" and "f***ing" Banaz, who was subjected to degrading sex acts.
Hama and his friend were heard laughing as he described how she was killed in her family home in Mitcham, South London, with Ari Mahmod "supervising".
The murderers - two other suspects have fled to Iraq - had been told Banaz would be on her own.
Hama is recorded as saying: "Ari (the uncle) said there is no one there. There was someone there, Biza (her sister). The bastard lied to us."
He said of the murder: "I swear to God it took him more than two hours. Her soul and her life would not leave."
Banaz was garotted for five minutes, said Hama, but it took another half an hour for her to die.
Hama said: "The wire was thick and the soul would not just leave like that.
"We could not remove it. All in all it took five minutes (to strangle) her.
"I was kicking and stamping on her neck to get the soul out. I saw her stark naked, without wearing pants or underwear."
Banaz's body was packed into a suitcase and buried in a garden in Birmingham, where it was found three months later.
The trial of the two brothers heard that Banaz was killed because she had walked out of an unhappy arranged marriage - which she was forced into at just 17 - and fallen in love with Iranian Kurd Rahmat Suleimani, 28.
The pair had been secretly seeing each other, but her family were furious when they found out because Mr Suleimani was not "immediate family" or a strict Muslim.
Terrified, Banaz wrote to police naming people she said were planning to kill her.
Hama was on the list, the court heard. Two other men named by Banaz have fled the country.
Transcripts of the prison recording were read out at a pre- sentence hearing for Hama, of South Norwood, South London, who pleaded guilty to murdering Banaz at an earlier hearing.
Judge Brian Barker, the Common Serjeant of London, sat to assess the extent of Hama's involvement.
He and the Mahmod brothers are due to be sentenced tomorrow.
Victor Temple QC, prosecuting, told the court that Hama, who sat impassively in the dock, took a "leading part" in raping and killing Banaz in January last year then dumping her body.
He was said to have been recorded expressing concern because his fingerprints and DNA were on her body.
He was also concerned that a leaking pipe at the house where she was buried was sending water through the suitcase, possibly uncovering it.
During another taped conversation, Hama joked about Banaz's hair and elbow sticking out of the suitcase and how a police patrol drove past while he was helping to drag it to a car.
He said: "The road was crowded. The police came past. People were passing by - and we were dragging the bag.
"I almost ran away. Mr Ari (was dragging it) and we were around by each side of him.
"You know what it was, sticking out, her elbow, her hair was falling out so much. That was a stupid thing, a silly thing."
Defence barrister Malcolm Swift QC claimed Hama became involved only after Banaz's body had been put in the suitcase.
He told the court there was no direct evidence that Hama was present at the time of the murder - he took part in the planning but "had realised the error of becoming directly involved in the killing".
Hama's car was outside his home throughout the morning of the killing and his mobile phone could not be linked to the murder scene.
Mr Swift said Hama got his information on the killing from others, including Ari Mahmod.
Gee ,do ya think fat Rosie was right about these stone age monkeys loving their children too?
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Shame! You should have some respect for monkeys!
Very well stated and quite accurate. If it were not for conservative talk radio and FreeRepublic, the truth would “never” get out there. It is up to all of us to educate as many of our friends and associates as we can. Our very existence and the futures of our children and grandchildren depends on it. We have to work diligently to vote out the elitist politicians whose rhetoric emboldens our enemies and whose motivation is their own power and ego. They disgrace our nation and they disgrace our heritage.
Hmmm, I’m thinking disc sander, take all the skin off their body, douse them in 50/50 gasoline and paint stripper, light them on fire.
"It is not my job to protect anyone, except Islamic terrorists and murderers"
Yes, I agree. However, it’s not just liberals who have a problem. By attempting to behave in a PC manner, even President Bush has played into the hands of these Islamist extremists. I understand that politics is a difficult game at times, but when will it be time to call it the way it is and not the way one might wish it to be? Since the outcry against extremist muslims has not happened to any significant degree, then I submit we (the U.S. and our allies) must recognize that the threat is not just the extremists of this cultish so-called religion.
Yes, President Bush has also been caught up in the PC attempt to separate out the bad Muslims from the good Muslims. My problem with that is, if there are truly good Muslims, then why are they not crying out in protest against those who are hijacking their “religion of peace”?
Did you hear that youtube thing about the radio host that took a call-in Muslin to task? It was posted today on FR. Search title for Radio and I think you will find it. If not let me know, it is worth listening to. Our President and politicians could be utilizing some of what was said.
Gee, and they show honor by killing? They show honor by raping?
What is honorable about a father that would willfully seek to have his daughter killed? What is honorable about an uncle that could even watch - much less be involved in “supervising” a killing of his niece.
And isn’t it nice that they took the opportunity to have her totally naked as they watched?
Honor?
They are the scum of the world. Don’t know who could find honor in such acts. They are not human - but are monsters.
The devil lives in those men and in that religion. We judge them by the fruits and the fruits are of the devil.
Why was there not more outrage at this? Why was the suffering of these children minimalized in the West? I really wonder sometimes.
Why does “Uncle Ari Mahmod” look familiar?
Has he been involved in something else?
Or maybe this story has been in an article with his photo before..
Lovely Religion of Pieces creeps who treat their women just ............
Where’s the NOW gang?
The old joke:
A Muslim is complaining "This American show Star Trek... you have whites, blacks, asians, Scots, Russians, even green-blooded aliens all working together, but no Muslims at all!"
Star Trek fan responds: "That's because it takes place in the future."
Please God, have pity on the British...
Let there be no King Charles III...
The great problem of our time is to separate the evil from the good. How can they be identified? How can we cull them out? How can mere mortals know what is in a persons heart? I don’t know of any way, do you?
Absent this ability, what is a society to do to defend itself against killers that gleefully hide amongst us, lie to us, and seduce us to complacency, all the while plotting and preparing for our destruction? Soldiers for this evil are developed and recruited in Mosques where people allegedly go to pray to God.
Would you support infiltrating Mosques to identify and eliminate the staging grounds for this evil? Here and in other areas of the world. For instance, why should the people in the Sudan suffer from the activities of these monsters? And if they should not suffer in the Sudan, why should they suffer in Saudi Arabia or Iran or Indonesia?
So what if we won’t go after the Mosques? What else could we do that is generally benevolent? We could separate the groups. That has served fairly well for hundreds of years, though there were periodic wars between the groups. This means that everyone goes back to their own camps. Of course that condoms the Muslim group to a living hell because the good apparently will not fight the evil.
We could work to convert them to Christianity or other religions. This requires that we proselytize Muslims. In order to do this we will have to subdue and occupy Their countries. All of them not just one. Because we don’t want them killing the people from other religions in “their” lands as they do now.
And while we are discussing things why are they Muslim Lands anyway? They conquered and subverted, brutally, other civilizations to take over their lands. So why can’t the Muslims be thrown out? Wage war until they surrender unconditionally and then change their paradigm.
Perhaps you have an answer, a real one. I hope someone out there does because what we are currently doing isn’t going to work in the long run. They will take us over because we will not fight.
I see only two ways out, separating our civilizations each going their own way (won’t happen) or all out war until we win or they do.
“A reminder for the ages....Beslan!”
It was your Russian tank fire that killed the most children in Beslan.
BLOODY SAVAGES!!!
Kill the worthless Muslim bastard murderers!!
Death to Islam!!
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You are one sick puppy!
Its ironic that you try to segue the Kremlin spin on Beslan into this thread that has to do with barbaric murder in the UK.
If your Mother Russia was so noble, why are they refusing to arrest the KGB thug who poisoned another UK resident?
Execute these Kurdish swine and then the Russian ones.
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