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Russian military men predicting war against USA
charter97 ^ | 18/07/2007

Posted on 07/18/2007 3:38:45 PM PDT by lizol

Russian military men predicting war against USA

17:00, 18/07/2007

The blood-curbing declarations have been made: Moscow military experts are suggesting terrible scenario according to which the USA is going to attack Russia for providing itself with access to the Siberian natural resources .The cold war participants’ assumption is very clear, Manfred Quirring from the “Die Welt” German edition writes.

“The war between Russia and the USA is probable in the near 10-15 years”, Major- General Aleksandr Vladimirov does not exclude. And its aim, according to him, “is obvious even now. It is the removal of the powerful geopolitical rival capable of deleting the USA from the earth’s surface within 30 minute”.

Furthermore, according to the military man, the USA wishes to provide itself with access to the natural resources of Siberia and the Far East and threaten the rest of the world with “armed victory and technological power of its weapons”.

Vladimirov is the vice-president of the Russia’s board of military experts. He met with other Russian distinguished military experts and specialists on the global security for discussing when and why the USA is to unleash war against Russia and whether it is going to enlist it or not.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: coldwar2; communism; paranoia; reddawn; russia; sovietunion
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To: quant5

“Many people laughed at me in 2001 when I told them our attack on the Trade Towers was coordinated effort of the Chinese with Russian blessing.”

They laughed at you too!


61 posted on 07/18/2007 10:48:01 PM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: Thunder90
'Russian military men predicting war against USA'

Brand new Neo-Soviet Army uniforms, just in time for Putin's upcoming war against US, Europe (the three Baltic states & Poland seem like the first targeted nations in Eastern Europe plus Georgia in the Caucasus).

The Kremlin's weapons support for Iran & Syria continues. Will Moscow send troops, pilots (as in previous Arab-Israeli wars), along with advanced weapons systems to assist their Islamic 'comrades' in any future war against Israel?

Lyubov Kudelina, head of the Defense Ministry finance and economics service

Army Uniforms Get Makeover

The Russian Defense Ministry has announced that it is spending 100 million rubles to create new uniforms. The Valentin Yudashkin Fashion House was selected to design the new uniform, and it is now keeping it a secret until September, when Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov will launch it mass production. He approved a new special forces uniform in May.
The only time previously when the Russian Army was given fully redesigned uniforms was in 1992 on orders from First President of Russia Boris Yeltsin. That new uniform was based on the NATO uniform, military sources say. In 1998, generals' and colonels' hats were replaced and some types of forces were given shoes instead of boots. In 2005, Russian President Vladimir Putin made more changes to officers' headwear, partially reversing the innovations of 1998. Police received new uniforms last month, after the president noted that the color of their uniforms was the same as that of military uniforms.

Lyubov Kudelina, head of the Defense Ministry finance and economics service, while not lifting the veil of secrecy from the new military look, promised that the new uniforms “will combine the historical traditions of the Russian Army and a modern palette of colors with improved quality of materials.”

Fashion historian Alexander Vasilyev is skeptical, however. “Using fashionable designers is not only unjustified here, you have to look at world experience, which is that the design of the military wardrobe has to be developed by special people who serve in the army and understand what is needed and why. So far, I have the impression that that the minister found out that on warehouse is nearly empty, and another has a surplus of fabric and that is the basis for the changes.”

62 posted on 07/19/2007 4:36:27 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: lizol
"blood-curbing?"

Carolyn

63 posted on 07/19/2007 4:58:33 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: xmission
"Lets see... Build nuclear plants or try to invade russia...."

Why not both?

64 posted on 07/19/2007 5:09:26 AM PDT by realpatriot (Some spelling errers entionally included!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

They don’t want to piss off China right now cause they need time to rebuild their military. The USA is a good devil to invoke since they know we won’t care, and we are an old rival. This is a good cover for spending all their oil money on their military.


65 posted on 07/19/2007 5:21:32 AM PDT by Edgerunner (If you won't let the military fight your battles, you will have to. Keep your powder dry...)
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To: A CA Guy
Didn’t the Russians just claim something was theirs like the North Pole last week.

Pre-emptive strike on Santa Claus in the making? Blackbird.

66 posted on 07/19/2007 1:46:17 PM PDT by BlackbirdSST (I'm dug in, giving no more ground to the rino stampede. BB)
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To: crazyhorse691
Rantings of vodka induced dementia...

Outsourced production to China? Melaminski comrade? Blackbird.

67 posted on 07/19/2007 1:48:39 PM PDT by BlackbirdSST (I'm dug in, giving no more ground to the rino stampede. BB)
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To: mamelukesabre

I agree that nations will not be important after such a conflict and Isaih says they beat their swords into plowshears and spears into pruning spears. Society will be focused on quality of life technology instead of military.

On your second point, I disagree. We not only will be involved, we already are. Revelations says the flash point of the global conflict is river Euphrates that sits right smack in the middle of Iran and Iraq. There are four angels unbound which are keeping things from going hot before their scheduled time. America will be in Iraq for a long time and we are already at de facto war with Iran.


68 posted on 07/19/2007 2:16:18 PM PDT by quant5
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To: RightWhale

They were lacking a key ingredient - capitalism.


69 posted on 07/19/2007 2:18:57 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: gedeon3

Well, I don’t think their will be many Russians left by the time the war ends but in any event the younger generation has tasted freedom, wants capitolism and hates the communistic governments of both nations. They see no point to this line of thinking that the current KGB/Politbureau and Maoist/PRC continues to maintain. That to me is why I feel this war is less then 10 years away. A lot of these guys in both nations goverments are old (except for Putin). They will die off if a war doesn’t start but they are a race against time to restore or expand their ‘glorious’ controlling, messed up empires and thought process. Also, our enemies know we have an achilles heel now and th

at is oil. The private sector has created a massive investment opportunity and the technology already engineered is affordable and scalable to be off foreign oil in the next decade. They move and move soon and probably feel it is the only time left in the modern age they can stop our civilization from dominating the globe and they right about that in general but what they have is paranoi that we will do very bad things to them. This is ignorance or malevolence considering we have all but given away our entire country to the rest of the world.


70 posted on 07/19/2007 2:24:57 PM PDT by quant5
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To: Thunder90

That very well could be. Our rage will against Russia but China will experience some of that too. World Wars create strange bedfellows. Look at WWII and our alliance with Russia. Too bad Truman decided to not listen to all his major generals whom helped with WWII and did a pre-emptive atomic strike on Russia to get them out of Europe. Instead, we simply gave half of Europe to them. I guess history is yet to unfold to know for sure how bad a mistake that was. Same deal with North Korea and MacArthur in the Korean conlict and we had all the justification to finish them off and roll on up through Pyongyang.


71 posted on 07/19/2007 2:36:03 PM PDT by quant5
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To: CJ Wolf

Yeah, right now that is true. The scenerio that could unfold could be like that of WWII where Hitler and Stalin are allies and then Hitler invades Russia while they are busy with the Japs in the far east. This time would be the Chi-coms doing the back-stab while Russia engaged with Europe/USA. These guys may have learned from history and playing Sun Tzu by the numbers, but evil nations/groups always back-stab each other in the end.


72 posted on 07/19/2007 2:39:22 PM PDT by quant5
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To: FreedomPoster

No exceptions. Not economic.


73 posted on 07/19/2007 2:40:23 PM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: elcid1970

Bagakhulstva!


74 posted on 07/19/2007 2:47:32 PM PDT by JusPasenThru (Just another angry military veteran.)
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To: Edgerunner

Great point. All the evil nations are doing that right now converting their resources into military and gearing up for something big. Iran, North Korea, China, Venezuela, Russia...


75 posted on 07/19/2007 2:54:43 PM PDT by quant5
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To: JusPasenThru

Izvinitiye, Ya nye ponimayu.


76 posted on 07/19/2007 3:13:02 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: quant5

I agree they would back stab each other in the end. No matter how it turned out.


77 posted on 07/19/2007 4:38:16 PM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: lizol

Vee mus Protect za Burger at all costs

78 posted on 07/19/2007 4:53:45 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (In everyday life there is more than meets the eye to reach the depths of truth we must DRAGTHEWATERS)
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To: quant5

Sounds like you’ve had even more vodka than these Russians.


79 posted on 07/20/2007 3:40:30 PM PDT by Decombobulator
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To: lizol

I think someone has been hitting the crack pipe.


80 posted on 07/20/2007 4:16:24 PM PDT by AFreeBird (Will NOT vote for Rudy. <--- notice the period)
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