Posted on 07/17/2007 10:56:59 PM PDT by American in Israel
Just a freeper observation, but there are strong indications that next week, during the time of the 9th of AV, that there will be a serious Arab attack on Israel.
The word on the street from the local Palestinians is to quote from a few "There will no longer be a Zionist problem in Palestine this month." Nobody is really talking, but I am getting veiled warnings from Palestinian friends. One such warning was a rather cryptic answer to a pointed question about war with Israel; "Do you know what the 9th of Av is? Every time Israel fights a war on the 9th of Av it looses"... People refuse to talk about war or answer any direct questions. This is very uncharacteristic for Palestinians; usually they are very verbally expressive. The following is what got me to finally write this note to you all. It is an excerpt from an email sent to me by a friend.
Today we had business to do in Jerusalem, so we left our home at 7 am and traveled down the east side of the Galilee, through Bet Shean and past the check point at Sede Trimot in the Jordan Valley.
Once we entered the Jordan Valley as we passed through the Arab agricultural areas we noticed the following which is most unusual;
1. There were no people visible working the in the fields. 2. There were no children along the side of the road.
3. There were no tractors or other farm vehicles anywhere to be seen.
4. All of the vegetables had been completely harvested and the fields were 100% empty.
5. No preparation of the fields was evident for the next planting...Plastic was everywhere from the prior crop.
6. The greenhouses had no plants in them..... 7. The vegetable stands that are normally filled to the brim from the harvest were completely vacant.
8. This is the peak season for growing vegetables in the Jordan Valley, yet everything had been harvested and nothing was growing waiting to be harvested or picked.
We concluded our business in Jerusalem and got back on the road again about 2:45 pm heading north up the Jordan Valley. Again, no people, no fruit stands, no crops, nothing!
Do these Arabs know something is about to happen that we do not know is coming? The 9th of Av is on July 23rd, which is the exact day both Temples in Jerusalem were destroyed hundreds of years apart...
This is just not how things are this time of year normally. The entire valley is the best land for growing crops in Israel and completly under the control of the Arabs. This land is the Palestinian food supply. For some reason they do not believe they need the food this year!
A friend of mine that is politicaly connected mentioned that he was thinking that the first attack date for the Arab League may be the 9th of AV, and the Sept/Oct period as the backup date. He does not believe that Syria will be ready by next week, so he thinks they will use the fall back date. However Hamas/Fatah have their people totally prepared for the first date. They may jump, even if Syria gives the no signal.
As a Biblical side reference, Isaiah 14 28-33, and Zephaniah 2 refer I believe to the destruction of the modern day Palestinians. Interestingly enough it says: " I will kill thy root with famine, and he shall slay thy remnant.." Zehpaniah 2 indicates that the industrial city of Ashkelon, (third largest city in Israel I believe), will be wiped out, but that a smoke cloud from its direction will go over Gaza, and I think kill most of the inhabitants there. Ashkelon is due north of Gaza and just a kassams throw away.
This is just a few various observations I am bringing together, but they ominously point to the same thing, a major Palestinian ground offensive may take place just next week.
Thank you for the information. Stay safe and keep us updated!
Weren’t the Jews also expelled from Spain on the 9th of Av?
here is some additional information (or indicators if you will) someone posted on timebomb:
Jim Bramlett
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More hints of possible war
Jim Bramlett
Jul 18, 2007
Dear friends:
Yesterday I reported two strange happenings amongst civilians in Lebanon and the Jordan Vally that hinted of possible military action planned by Israel’s enemies — evidence that they are preparing to protect their people.
Later, readers reported three other hints of possible soon-coming military action:
1. One reader said, “She (a relative) looked around Beirut, and the situation was the same everywhere. The Syrians have indeed fled Lebanon. What do they know that we don’t?”
2. An Israeli reported that his son, a reserve soldier, has been called back on active duty on July 22. He said that his son and his soldier buddies are a very special unit and when they are called it is important. (July 22 is the day before the 9th of Av!)
3. This is about activity in the U.S., but it may be significant. To protect the writer, I will keep the location confidential. She said that she and her husband own a small trucking company in _______. She said, “Today I fielded calls from brokers saying they needed to move empty containers from all points possible into ________ ASAP. If you are not familiar with the main economy in _______, it is one of the largest bomb manufacturing plants in the USA. Moving empties in means they will be filling them up and shipping full containers out.”
(Note the wording: “ASAP” and the “all points possible.” That speaks of urgency.)
What does that mean?
They all blow themselves up at the same time?
Now before the flaming begins, let me say too that this is just for me. Others who want and have this tag to honor our God is fine with me too. God knows all of our hearts and intentions.
For me personally, if it had said "May" or "Please" God bless America I could have purchased one.
thanks for the insight.
Stay safe!
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Too simplistic. Based on past history, they have good reason to believe that military action will force a favorable political result.
But there's more to it than that -- you're operating from conventional logic, whereas that may not apply in this case. You probably need to figure in the militant Islam angle, which is not particularly rational, but is very dynamic.
Syria's motivation to attack would be twofold: first, and probably foremost, is Bashir Assad. He's weak, but wants to be a strongman like his father. Second, Syria is in many respects an Iranian vassal.
I suspect that Iran is de facto calling the shots for the Arabs in the region, and their motivations are at least partly governed by Ahneedajihad's apocalyptic religious beliefs.
Now suppose that Syria really did get Saddam's WMDs. First, Iranian missiles (perhaps tipped by the nukes nobody thinks they have) can supposedly reach Israel. Follow them up with a barrage of chemical weapons from the Syrians... it'd go a long way toward satisfying the ideological goal of destroying Israel.
I seriously doubt that either Egypt or Jordan plan to play in such an attack. They'd probably remain neutral -- I doubt they'd aid Israel directly, but I also doubt they'd attack her.
Which brings us, finally, to Israel. They are a serious nuclear power. An attack such as I described would almost certainly result in the glassification of Amman, Tehran, and a few other locations.
Perhaps the Syrians and Iranians are counting on such a response, as a spur to the rest of the Islamic world for launching a religious war.
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My oh my...
Good luck and good hunting boys. You are the only good house on a very bad block. Stay strong.
Syria may not be ready by next week?...They had better get prepared for more than an attack on Israel. Because when they do, Damascus (I think the world’s oldest city in continual existance) will be destroyed in the night. By morning, it will be no more. IMHO
Syria has an agreement with Iran regarding joint military
efforts, so Iran becomes a factor in this.
Amen
Any upcoming war in Israel will not leave us out. We are fighting a common enemy and Israel’s fate is our fate. IMO, the American people and the morons in Congress have had their heads in the sand choosing to disregard the “winds of war.” War has been coming for some time and the DC morons have chosen to play their treasonous games, for example, last night’s disgrace in the Senate. The reality is that we are at war with an enemy that wants us dead as well as Israel gone. Sorry if that doesn’t play well with Pelosi, Murtha, Reid, Snowe, Kennedy, Schumer, and the rest of the DC disgraces.
Your posting is very refreshing. As far as the Palis is concerned, the only major weapons they have are rocks, homemade bombs, and guns.
Those musings seem to assume that the Jiadi’s et al
are . . .
rational.
True, the ones who had either the money or the skills got out a long time ago. The ones we see now are the ones who think they are going back to their homeland. Not any time soon.
There are a number of reasons God brings about this event. A couple of the main ones are: To put the world and Israel on notice that He's still alive,awake and in control.
Eze 38:23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD.
Eze 39:22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day and forward. Some will be convinced permanently some unfortunately only temporarily before returning to business as usual.
Another is to give enough of the people of Israel the desire and the rest [peace] from her local enemies to encourage and enable her to build her temple where it is supposed to be without any interference and to resume Temple Worship. This will be done quickly at first in a temporary structure.
This is the way He did it both times before when the temple was built before that being Solomon's and Zerubbabel's.
This will result in a solution to the Middle East and Muslim terrorist problem that the world can't solve, leading the world to breathe a sigh of relief and a period of temporary but false peace.
Israel will be left as the dominant power in the Middle East with more land than she has had since rebirth in 1948 and that includes some nice oil rich real estate.
From that point on she will begin to turn more to God for her survival than her false allies as she should.
There is much more I could go into based on over forty years of study but it would be quite lengthy.
If we want to know God's plans for our future we need to accept Him as our savior, study all of His Word and pray for tutoring and guidance of the Holy Spirit.
Without these requirements one's understanding of the Scriptures will be severely limited at the very best.
1Co 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
1Co 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
1Co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
1Co 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
1Co 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
It is true that the prophets of the Bible lived in the past but all of their prophecies where future when first uttered . Some of them came true rather quickly but a large part of them are yet to be fulfilled making them our and our children's prophets.
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