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Carnal Knowledge | What fuels the hatred of homosexuality?
Philadelpha Inquirer ^ | 17 July 2007 | Faye Flam

Posted on 07/17/2007 3:59:27 PM PDT by shrinkermd

Psychologist Jonathan Haidt wants to help liberal types like me understand why some people condemn homosexual relationships as immoral...

...But why do so many people think homosexuality is disgusting? I never had any problem with it.

University of Pennsylvania psychologist and disgust expert Paul Rozin says it's particularly a guy thing - most heterosexual men are disgusted by the thought of touching other men. Rozin recalls experiments in which researchers asked subjects how disgusted they'd be if a Q-tip that had been in the mouth of either a man or a woman was subsequently touched to their own various orifices.

Women didn't care much whether the swab had touched the mouth of a man or a woman. But it mattered to men, who - surprise! - were not at all disgusted by the Q-tip that touched a woman but totally grossed out if they thought it had touched another guy's tongue.

Isn't it kind of babyish to declare gays immoral because you think their sex lives are icky?

... Haidt says he was inspired by the University of Chicago's Leon Kass, who headed President Bush's Council on Bioethics from 2002 to 2005. In an earlier essay, called "The Wisdom of Repugnance," Kass wrote that feelings of disgust come from "an emotional expression of a deep wisdom. . . . Shallow are the souls that have forgotten how to shudder."

(Excerpt) Read more at philly.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: anal; analintercourse; analsex; anus; fayeflam; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; men
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To: shrinkermd

I don’t care much for homersexuality, but bestiality is cool, doncha think, Faye Flam, if that is your real name?! And don’t get me started on necrophilia. Mmmmmmmm. The grateful dead!


21 posted on 07/17/2007 4:17:07 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: shrinkermd

Homos cause their own problems. Just attened 1 Gay Pride Parade in Chicago. If that doesn’t make you homophobic, nothing will.


22 posted on 07/17/2007 4:17:19 PM PDT by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: toddlintown

attened=attend


23 posted on 07/17/2007 4:19:00 PM PDT by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
178M isn't too bad considering it had a 14M budget.

Box Office Mojo (.com)

24 posted on 07/17/2007 4:19:08 PM PDT by TxCopper
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To: shrinkermd

Psychobabble!
The idea is to get you to doubt your own validity, and accept anything, and all.
Time for everyone to read Gramsci again!


25 posted on 07/17/2007 4:21:01 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Fee
Would liberals have the same understanding for smokers and tobacco companies??

Or gun owners and gun manufacturers?

Liberals (so-called) want to talk about intolerant, closed-minded people - well, they should look in the mirror.

26 posted on 07/17/2007 4:21:01 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: shrinkermd
What fuels hatred of homosexuality?

Well, maybe it's because that of the AIDS carriers, the vast majority are queers.

Maybe it's because of child molesters, the majority of which are doubtless homosexual.

Maybe it's because these degenerates aren't merely looking for acceptance. They are looking for dominance.

Maybe it's because the Bible condemns it and God destroyed a whole community of people, in large part, because of their disgusting behavior.

Maybe it's because as a culture they are anti God and anti family.

27 posted on 07/17/2007 4:21:20 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: Son Of The Godfather
I’m also disgusted by those fine folks who want to screw horses.

You, sir, are obviously an equinophobic!

28 posted on 07/17/2007 4:21:58 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Countdown: a documentary on Keith Olberman's dwindling IQ)
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To: shrinkermd

The act of placing a penis in an anus (male or female) is disgusting, not hygenic, and a good way to pick up disease.

Not to mention the anus was never designed for insertion.

There is just something wrong about putting your manhood into the place fecal matter comes out, or kissing the said area, etc etc. It is offensive to the senses no matter how you call it. I don’t even like the female smells down there, it reminds me of tuna from a can (and I cannot stand canned tuna). I am lucky I have allergies (stuffy nose).

And as for lesbians, as a straight guy, how do I benefit? There aren’t too many out there that are attractive to men, and even so, hard to find a good looking pair. How many pairs do I have to look at and know which one is ‘the guy’? If they really are lesbian, good-looking or not, they’d have no interest in me or any other guys.


29 posted on 07/17/2007 4:22:32 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: TxCopper
178M is chump change compared to others...

Don’t believe they made it in video rentals either. In my local video rental stores, they ordered dozens of them = and they just sat there and sat there ... even on a Saturday night when it was hard to find a movie that wasn’t all out - there sat the dozens of ‘Brokebacks’

30 posted on 07/17/2007 4:24:07 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ( "...but you can't fool all of the people all the time." LINCOLN)
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To: shrinkermd
People don't "hate" homosexuals they are just sick of people dragging their sex life into the public view. Most people have a live and let live attitude but believe that spirit should go both ways. I have never dealt with a "homosexual" for any length of time that did not make improper homosexual advances towards me. If people choose to live this lifestyle: Good for them, its a free country. But please leave me out. I don't swing that way.
31 posted on 07/17/2007 4:24:18 PM PDT by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
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To: shrinkermd

Howsabout plain old common sense....

“Study after study reveals that homosexuality, whether male or female, can take anywhere from 10, 20 to 30 years off of someone’s lifespan. With all the attention on smoking, which the National Cancer Institute says takes from 7 to 10 years off someone’s life, why not the same human outcry on homosexuality? Here’s a behavior that’s killing people 2 to 3 times the rate of smoking, yet nobody seems to care. In fact, we are encouraging and affirming individuals into the “gay” lifestyle. If you truly love someone, you would steer them away from self-destructive behaviors, rather than towards them, shouldn’t you? Homosexuals need our tough love, not blind love, the kind of love that is going to love them no matter what they say and do. We must extend that helping hand and say “ I think your worth saving, let’s work on it together.”

http://theroadtoemmaus.org/RdLb/22SxSo/PnSx/HSx/hosx_lifspn.htm

I’ll bet ANYTHING this clown condemns smokers...has “smokophobia”...even though tobacco’s health carnage is nowhere near that of homosexuality....


32 posted on 07/17/2007 4:24:36 PM PDT by mo
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To: shrinkermd
I think what they are trying here (have been trying) is to legitimize a dangerous perverse behavior. So-called phobias are there for a reason. Unless they are carried to extremes they act to keep us safe. Dislike snakes? If you don’t know if a particular serpent is poison isn’t it reasonable to not pick it up?

Afraid of heights? A healthy fear of a fall that will turn a person into a human pancake is something that should be fostered. Note again that I said when not carried to extremes.

We have built in defense mechanisms against those who are visibly mentally ill. Remember Paranoid Schizophrenia affects about five percent of the population. Following the flawed homophobia argument; isn’t it prejudicial to shun the schizo; even when they are violent?

What gays don’t understand is that they can twist the arm of the APA and rewrite the mental illness manuals but sickness is still sickness.

33 posted on 07/17/2007 4:25:55 PM PDT by samm1148 (Pennsylvania-They haven't taxed air--yet)
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To: shrinkermd
ag-fay(n) :(Am)[slang]a homosexual person.

34 posted on 07/17/2007 4:26:00 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: shrinkermd

Liberals are not guided by a sense of fairness, but by a desire to be able to do whatever they want and not be judged for it.
Secondly, if the idea of being turned on by another man’s hairy butt doesn’t disgust a liberal man, he is beyond understanding.


35 posted on 07/17/2007 4:26:59 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: shrinkermd

Gays and their supporters now want those of us who think anal intercourse is disgusting to be considered the new queers.


36 posted on 07/17/2007 4:26:59 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Who will Liberals shift the blame to if their retreat from Iraq turns into a disaster?)
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To: shrinkermd

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that it involves sticking something in poop.


37 posted on 07/17/2007 4:27:49 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: shrinkermd

Simple answer: People are disgusted by buttsecks and the people who have buttsecks. Well, most people. In Washington, Minnesota, California, New York and Austin, TX, people accept people who have buttsecks.

Personally, I believe what goes on in people’s bedrooms is their business, not mine. Unless they’re lesbian (JK).


38 posted on 07/17/2007 4:27:49 PM PDT by TypeZoNegative (Trinidad&Tobago: Proof that a Muslim minority (5%pop) causes a majority of a country's problems.)
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To: mo

I’ve read the same stats. Gays will try to tell you it’s because heterosexuals are killing them by not accepting them, not giving them adequate health care, being ‘homphobic’ and it’s stressing them into an early grave. I over-simplify, but that’s pretty much their argument. Heteros (whom they affectionately call ‘breeders’) are again, the cause of their unhappiness. It can’t be the hundreds of guys they’ve slept with and either left or have dumped them. It’s always someone else’s fault. Poor little me.

Of course I don’t buy it.


39 posted on 07/17/2007 4:28:21 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: maine-iac7
The others?

It was a nice return on a rather modest investment.

Do I agree with the movie? No. However, the movie did quite well for its distributors. Saying that it didn't doesn't make it so.
40 posted on 07/17/2007 4:31:17 PM PDT by TxCopper
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