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Driver's license laws hit auto dealers
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 7-14-2007 | Mary Lou Pickel

Posted on 07/15/2007 5:06:33 PM PDT by Turbopilot

Jose Genao sells used cars for a living, but lately he's had to turn away customers from his Smyrna dealership.

Genao used to sell about 15 vehicles a week, mostly Ford F-150 or Silverado pickups to a Mexican clientele. Now he sells only two or three.

Half a dozen customers have returned cars because they can't register them.

"They bring the key and tell me, 'Jose, I'm leaving,' " Genao said.

Genao is feeling the fallout from a new state law, effective July 1, that requires a valid Georgia driver's license or ID card to register a car in Georgia.

The law is cutting deep into traffic for many auto dealers and tag and title services catering to the state's growing immigrant community. Illegal immigrants can't get driver's licenses because to do so, they must prove they're in the country legally.

The law also has the potential to cut into sales taxes and county ad valorem tax revenues, though metro area counties say it's too early to measure that effect.

The bill's sponsor, Sen. Chip Rogers (R-Woodstock) said he did not target immigrants.

"Yes, this will impact people who are here illegally, but my biggest focus is public safety," he said.

"If [car dealers and tag services] have built their business on people who are here illegally, I'm sorry, but at some point they had to realize that was not going to continue," Rogers said.

The license plate law closes a window that gave motorists 30 days to get Georgia driver's licenses after moving to the state. In the interim, a driver could register a car with an out-of-state or international license.

Also effective July 1 was a separate, 2006 law requiring increased verification of legal status in Georgia for a variety of other purposes, including to work in some jobs or qualify for welfare.

While no one knows how many illegal immigrants are in Georgia, a government estimate put the number around 470,000. Nationally, most illegal immigrants are from Mexico, followed by El Salvador, Guatemala, India and China, according to a 2005 Department of Homeland Security report.

Genao, 34, has a green card and has lived in the United States eight years. If business doesn't pick up, he might return to his native Dominican Republic to tend to a car dealership there.

"If they don't do something, a lot of businesses are going to close," he said.

Tony Brooks, an insurance agent who caters to the Hispanic community in Marietta, said business for his tag and title service has dropped off about 80 percent since the law went into effect.

"It's definitely slowing things down, that's for sure," Brooks said.

He's had to turn away 30 to 40 people wanting tags in the last two weeks because they don't have Georgia driver's licenses.

His main business is auto insurance, which hasn't suffered, but he's worried immigrant customers won't buy insurance either if they can't register their cars.

Cobb County's tag offices have seen a "significant decrease" in the volume of applications submitted by tag and title services in the last two weeks, said Stewart Manley, manager of Cobb County's tag offices.

The county has also turned away about 40 people per day, Manley said, out of an average 1,900 customers served daily. Some are people who have moved from other states and don't have Georgia driver's licenses yet, Manley said. "They're complaining mildly," he said.

Tax collectors in Cobb, Gwinnett and DeKalb said it is too early to tell how the new license plate law would affect tax collection.

"You really won't see the effect economically for six months," said Brent Bennett, director of vehicle registrations for DeKalb County.

Loopholes exist even with the new law.

An illegal immigrant can still mail in a tag renewal or go online and avoid the need to show a driver's license.

That's what Raul Hernandez plans to do. He is an illegal immigrant from Mexico who came here legally but overstayed his visa and so has a Georgia driver's license. He doesn't have to worry about the tag problem, but his friends do.

"People have asked me to get tags for them in my name. Right now I said 'No, it's not worth the risk. If they get tickets, they'll be sent to me,' " he said in Spanish.

"Right now people are scared, but it will settle down and go back to normal," Hernandez predicted.

Isaias Zavala, 33, an illegal immigrant from Mexico who works construction, said he has no license but his wife does, so he registers their car through her. Still, he worries because he has to drive to work.

"This all seems very bad to me," he said in Spanish of the new law.

Perimeter Insurance Agency used to process 25 tags per week in one Cobb County location. Since July 1, they've done only three renewals, said Jose Mendez, part owner of the business.

His co-owner, Rick Craddock, said he appreciates his immigrant customers.

"We love these people," Craddock said.

But he acknowledges there is a problem with illegal immigration. "We have to secure the border and slow the influx," he said. "The solution is not to kick out all the people who are already here."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: aliens; crimaliens; enforcement; georgia; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; nowayjose
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To: shag377
Funny, the farmers would like nothing more than to see them gone, but our county would suffer dearly with the loss of their work...and the money they spend at WalMart.

Wouldn't they just be replaced by legal workers?

121 posted on 07/16/2007 7:18:46 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: nicmarlo

How will the illegals get registered to vote (Democrat) through “motor-voter” if they are required to prove citizenship?


122 posted on 07/16/2007 7:19:37 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Turbopilot

The USA is still pretty much in a “9-10 State of Mind.”


123 posted on 07/16/2007 7:22:05 AM PDT by sono (Where there is a choice only between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence - M Gandhi)
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To: shag377
...our county would suffer dearly with the loss of their work...and the money they spend at WalMart.

Don't High School Kids do Ag work any more? (They do up here!)

124 posted on 07/16/2007 7:25:41 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: garv
The article says the law closes a loophole allowing people 30 days to get a Georgia license and the ability to register a vehicle with an out of state license. What’s wrong with giving people 30 days to change over their license?

All an out of state person has to do now is get a GA license and then they can register their car. It's not like a person has to change over their license the minute they move to GA.

This is actually one of the few laws that targets exactly what it is supposed to.

125 posted on 07/16/2007 7:31:09 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: Secret Agent Man
Not in Maryland. They want to pass legislation that would provide free service to people who have difficulty applying for driver’s licenses. Right now, some private organizations are charging $100 to provide assistance to those that have a language problem. Maryland is an illegal haven.
126 posted on 07/16/2007 7:31:25 AM PDT by JimmyMc
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To: bukkdems

“Yes, and another article in the Augusta Chronicle was about farmers having to struggle and face crops rotting in their fields because Mexican workers are choosing to leave like y’all want.”

Then hire legal migrant workers, but don’t try that “poor farmers can’t get workers” crap here. It doesn’t hold water.

The Farmers have options. When Americans are losing high paying jobs (construction, factory, etc..) to illegal immigrants, they don’t have many options.


127 posted on 07/16/2007 7:58:39 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Famously frisky)
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To: Turbopilot

>>Genao is feeling the fallout from a new state law, effective July 1, that requires a valid Georgia driver’s license or ID card to register a car in Georgia.

The law is cutting deep into traffic for many auto dealers and tag and title services catering to the state’s growing immigrant community. Illegal immigrants can’t get driver’s licenses because to do so, they must prove they’re in the country legally. <<

I supported this law and I’m basically happy about it but I have a few concerns.

What about college students who buy cars here but their license is from their home state?

Will this lead to an increase in cars not being registered at all - and maybe a fake auto tag industry


128 posted on 07/16/2007 8:34:36 AM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words)
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To: gondramB

>>Loopholes exist even with the new law.

An illegal immigrant can still mail in a tag renewal or go online and avoid the need to show a driver’s license. <<

Oh, I missed that part - college students can register online.


129 posted on 07/16/2007 8:35:30 AM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words)
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To: Turbopilot
"They bring the key and tell me, 'Jose, I'm leaving,' " Genao said.

Music to my ears! One down and 11,999,999+ to go! (Note to lawmakers without balls - THEY ARE SELF-DEPORTING!!)

130 posted on 07/16/2007 8:51:13 AM PDT by Heartland Mom (Build the fence, secure our borders, deport illegals - Protect our sovereignty!)
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To: gondramB
Will this lead to an increase in cars not being registered at all - and maybe a fake auto tag industry

I think that it is more likely to force the illegals to go to a neighboring state to register the cars. It seems like it would be easy enough either go to Alabama or Tennessee and get a tag and use that.

There could even crop up some sort of out of state registered car importation industry.

131 posted on 07/16/2007 10:07:59 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: Orange1998

GA passes some good anti-illegal laws. Don’t be surprised at GA.


132 posted on 07/16/2007 10:19:56 AM PDT by Shimmer128 (A man has only 1 escape from his old self: to see a different self in the mirror of his woman's eyes)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

That can be fixed by improving how we allow LEGAL immigrants to enter—when we get serious about fixing the problem, that is.


133 posted on 07/16/2007 10:34:06 AM PDT by rimtop56
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To: Ben Ficklin

That’s why we need to substitute LEGAL immigrants for the illegals as they leave.


134 posted on 07/16/2007 10:36:02 AM PDT by rimtop56
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To: rimtop56

We alrady tried to do that with the Kyl-Cornyn Immigration Reform legislation in 2005. Tancredo and the hardliners said no.


135 posted on 07/16/2007 11:13:33 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Turbopilot
Loopholes exist even with the new law. An illegal immigrant can still mail in a tag renewal or go online and avoid the need to show a driver's license.

Another helpful hint for illegal immigrants, courtesy of the AJC.

136 posted on 07/16/2007 11:20:43 AM PDT by Purrcival (Oh, goody -- another show hearing in Congress. Yawn.)
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To: Boundless

Why would one need to renew the registration on a garaged vehicle?


137 posted on 07/16/2007 11:27:43 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: kalee

They’re on every street corner...


138 posted on 07/16/2007 11:31:13 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Turbopilot

I'll accompany this guy singing his sad song.

139 posted on 07/16/2007 11:34:31 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (Support Duncan Hunter for the 2008 GOP presidential nominee. He will build the fence!!)
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To: Turbopilot

Ahh, poor babies, can’t make money helping people to break the law, what a shame ...


140 posted on 07/16/2007 11:36:53 AM PDT by Scythian
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