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Many foreign fighters in Iraq are Saudis, U.S. military says
Chicago Tribune ^ | Jul. 15, 2007 | Ned Parker

Posted on 07/15/2007 10:20:45 AM PDT by Ooh-Ah

Sunni extremists from Saudi Arabia make up half the foreign fighters in Iraq, many suicide bombers, a U.S. official says.

BAGHDAD — Although Bush administration officials have frequently lashed out at Syria and Iran, accusing it of helping insurgents and militias here, the largest number of foreign fighters and suicide bombers in Iraq come from a third neighbor, Saudi Arabia, according to a senior U.S. military officer and Iraqi lawmakers.

About 45% of all foreign militants targeting U.S. troops and Iraqi civilians and security forces are from Saudi Arabia; 15% are from Syria and Lebanon; and 10% are from North Africa, according to official U.S. military figures made available to The Times by the senior officer. Nearly half of the 135 foreigners in U.S. detention facilities in Iraq are Saudis, he said.

Fighters from Saudi Arabia are thought to have carried out more suicide bombings than those of any other nationality, said the senior U.S. officer, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the subject's sensitivity. It is apparently the first time a U.S. official has given such a breakdown on the role played by Saudi nationals in Iraq's Sunni Arab insurgency.

He said 50% of all Saudi fighters in Iraq come here as suicide bombers. In the last six months, such bombings have killed or injured 4,000 Iraqis.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: flypaperstrategy; foreignfighters; iraq; oif; saudi; saudiarabia; suicidebombers; terrorism; waronterror
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1 posted on 07/15/2007 10:20:54 AM PDT by Ooh-Ah
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To: Ooh-Ah

This isn’t news. Everyone knows that the Saudis dump their fanatics in Iraq, which

1) gets them out of Saudi; and

2) keeps the US entangled in Iraq so that we can’t meddle in Saudi and perhaps spread democracy there also.

The Saudis are out for themselves, no matter their protestations otherwise...


2 posted on 07/15/2007 10:23:12 AM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Just further evidence that if it they are Islamic, they are no friend of ours. Lest we forget the country of origin of most of the 9-11 hijackers...


3 posted on 07/15/2007 10:26:54 AM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: CondorFlight

To add to your 2nd point, I have never thought the countries surrounding Iraq would let a democracy succeed—it’s too threatening.


4 posted on 07/15/2007 10:28:49 AM PDT by Ooh-Ah
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To: CondorFlight

The Wahabi clerics in Saudi Arabia (whom the royals must support or face a civil war - civil war even within and among the royals themselves) preach in a manner that creates the terrorist cannon fodder of mush-for-brains Saudi youth who, due the hatred bred into them by the Wahabi, are ripe for recruitment by Al Queda and others.

And who underwrites most of the fundamentalist madrassas in Pakistan, from which both Al Queda and the Taliban draw recruits? Saudi Arabia.


5 posted on 07/15/2007 10:38:09 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Ooh-Ah
About 45% of all foreign militants targeting U.S. troops and Iraqi civilians and security forces are from Saudi Arabia; 15% are from Syria and Lebanon; and 10% are from North Africa,

Why doesn’t this article address the remaining 30%? Are they from Iran?
6 posted on 07/15/2007 10:52:00 AM PDT by ChessExpert (Mohamed was not a moderate Muslim)
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To: Ooh-Ah
When are our soldiers going to start tying these Saudis (or any other foreign fighters) to a post and shooting them dead? Under the Law of War we should do that. Anyone else remember what I do, of American execution of German "illegal combatants" during the occupation, after the German surrender?

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, "Enforce Zina's Laws"

7 posted on 07/15/2007 11:11:42 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Please visit www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: ChessExpert
Good point. Unfortunately, there are many other possibilities. They could also be Palestinians or from Jordan or the Gulf states, i.e.:

A Judge Sympathetic to U.S. Frees 19 of Its Enemies; Islamic Law Allows Jihad
WSJ August 14, 2006

...a Yemeni judge, sitting on the state's special terrorism court, ruled that 19 defendants who had traveled to Iraq to kill American soldiers and fight alongside al Qaeda there had done nothing wrong. The defendants -- 14 Yemenis and five Saudis who had been caught with guns and fake Iraqi passports -- made no attempt to deny their connection to al Qaeda in Iraq. They openly praised Osama bin Laden, and bore wounds from fighting American and Iraqi troops.

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His argument: "Islamic Sharia law permits jihad against occupiers" of Muslim lands.

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Yet Judge al-Baadani says that he couldn't have ruled any differently. Yemeni law -- a mixture of British colonial law, local ordinances and Islamic Sharia law -- is murky on the subject of when it is permissible for Yemenis to take up arms with fellow Muslims. The country also has a long history of allowing its young men to go off to fight alongside fellow Muslims battling foreign forces in places like Afghanistan, Bosnia and Chechnya. For many Yemenis, jihad against foreign occupiers is an Islamic duty.


8 posted on 07/15/2007 11:18:09 AM PDT by Ooh-Ah
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To: Ooh-Ah
Also see: Saudis' role in Iraq insurgency outlined
9 posted on 07/15/2007 11:29:13 AM PDT by Ooh-Ah
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To: Congressman Billybob

Our government is too afraid of “offending” leftists and muslims. War on Terror, my ass.


10 posted on 07/15/2007 11:54:01 AM PDT by Levante
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To: Levante
Our government is too afraid of “offending” leftists and muslims. War on Terror, my ass

I tend to agree, Bush and so many others are in bed with the Saudi scumbags that it does seem to make a bad, sick joke of it all. People have been - and will continue to be - harmed by it.

there's a Chinese proverb that makes a lot of sense:

"The first step on the path to wisdom is to call things by their proper name".

11 posted on 07/15/2007 12:04:52 PM PDT by AIM-54
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To: Ooh-Ah
To be completely fair, many Iraqis and Saudis cross the borders fequently. It's like saying that Mexican illegal migrants are from Colorado, when that is only where they were last month.

Saudi and Iraqi and Jordanian are only labels of general description. Arabic and tribal affiliation are all that matter to them.

Westerners will have an easier time understanding the conflict by realizing it is an ethnic-cleansing, sub-racial, sectarian regional total war pitting one sub-society coalition against another. With those coalitions changing from day to day.

It is easily the most complex struggle in history. Our military will only be able to pacify those areas that not mixed. Even homogeneous societies such as Basra are now in conflict between shia warlords.

Split them all up, segregate them all and put up fences. They don't play well with others.

Lastly, they are all generally too busy exterminating each other to export terror to us. We have to neutralize Pakistan, particularly the NW tribal areas to minimize the threat to our homelands.

12 posted on 07/15/2007 12:12:23 PM PDT by gandalftb (Blessed be the Lord that teaches my hands for the war, and my fingers to fight. (Sniper Jackson))
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To: Ooh-Ah

Bump


13 posted on 07/15/2007 12:28:09 PM PDT by EverOnward
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To: TheBattman

Amazing how ignorant Conservatives are of anything outside their own trailer park.

MOST of the people fighting and dying on OUR side are Muslims.


14 posted on 07/15/2007 12:52:07 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Ignorance can be cured by education, stupidity is a terminal condition)
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To: Levante
Bingo!!!

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

15 posted on 07/15/2007 12:54:50 PM PDT by expatguy (Support - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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To: Ooh-Ah
according to a senior U.S. military officer and Iraqi lawmakers

Sorry unless the "Journalists" source goes on the record these days, this should be treated as rumor. Considering we had two front page stories from the NY Times this month claiming the WH was going wobbly on Gitmo and Iraq that turned out to be just more lies, Conservatives should be really suspicious of anything the PC Media claims that cannot be verified by credible sources.

16 posted on 07/15/2007 12:55:10 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Ignorance can be cured by education, stupidity is a terminal condition)
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To: MNJohnnie
Amazing how ignorant Conservatives are of anything outside their own trailer park.

Yeah, we all don't have the luxury of living in Karl Rove's home like you do.

Thanks for outing yourself as an elitist doing the RNC's dirty work.

17 posted on 07/15/2007 12:58:38 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Which is utterly irrelevant to the point.

The problem here is with an "unnamed source" you have no idea if the source exists, if the reporter is honestly reporting the facts OR if the source did not simply lie to the reporter to advance their own political agenda.

More often then not these "unnamed sources" have been prove to be lies. That one of the reason Rush Limbaugh calls them the "Drive By Media". They drive up, spray the target with a bunch of rumor and accusation and then speed off while all the Dinocon drones in the "Conservative" movement go into hysterics at their own side based wholly on false or misleading accusations.

The Drive By media has been prove liars on hundreds of these “anonymous source” articles. How many times are the 100%ers going to blindly rise to the bait spewed forth by the Politically Corrupt Media before they wise up?

Given the track record of the source here, it would be wise for “Conservatives” to be as cynical about this sort of political advertising as they would be about any other form of marketing.

This isn’t your daddy’s “news media”. They are wholly politically corrupt. The only difference between them and Talk Radio is Talk Radio at least comes right out and lets you know their agenda, these clowns merely lie about theirs. As Ronaldus Mangus once said "Trust but Verify".

18 posted on 07/15/2007 1:16:54 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Ignorance can be cured by education, stupidity is a terminal condition)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Leaders in Saudi states have occasionally mentioned intents to send their Sunnis to fight the prevailing Shiites in Iraq.


19 posted on 07/15/2007 2:08:48 PM PDT by familyop
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To: MNJohnnie
I'm not convinced that the number is 45-50% but here is a related article, with a Saudi source by name (it does illustrate in a round-about-way how the Saudi government is trying to crack down. The question remains, is it a token effort?)--

"About 160 Saudi nationals arrested in Iraq have been tried while hundreds of others await trial," Iraq's national security adviser Muwaffaq Al Rubaie told the Okaz daily in Saudi Arabia.

"Many were killed in suicide attacks," he said, claiming that foreign militants infiltrate Iraq "from a neighbouring country," in an apparent reference to Syria.

Al Rubaie's statements concided with a Los Angeles Times report that said 45 per cent of foreign militants fighting US and Iraqi troops came from Saudi Arabia. The report said nearly half of the 135 foreigners in US detention facilities in Iraq are Saudis, and that 50 per cent of them are suicide bombers.

http://archive.gulfnews.com/region/Iraq/10139635.html

20 posted on 07/16/2007 4:38:32 AM PDT by corlorde (New Hampshire)
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