Posted on 07/15/2007 3:14:23 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
The point has been made in recent years that President George W. Bush is a Nazi/fascist. This is the typical rhetoric of children who know nothing of politics but feel that calling someone a fascist will help them look sophisticated.
However, some of these children have gotten dangerously close to legitimizing this otherwise baseless argument by describing the main features of fascism — and offering examples of how President Bush and Republicans have met those standards.
You can find one such article at the Council for Secular Humanism written by Laurence Britt. After reviewing this article, I realized that these arguments could easily be made about any and every American president. Naturally, I’ve decided to take the articles main points verbatim, and write a rebuttal, using President Clinton’s record in order to paint him as a fascist.
Do I really think Clinton was a fascist? No. My point is to show how easy it is to make this argument. Furthermore, if this is the standard that a liberal would use to call President Bush a fascist, then the fact is that their beloved first black president, B.J. Clinton, is a Hitler incarnate.
Again, I stress that these 14 main points are not my own — though the commentary is — and have been used against President Bush by toddlers to “prove” he is a fascist.
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
Whether you like to admit it or not, nationalism has always been strong in America. The one exception may be during the Vietnam era, although nationalism still existed. The point is that it is dumb to pin nationalism on the Bush Administration.
Even the liberal god - Howard Zinn himself - accused the Clinton administration of harmful nationalism. “Liberals today criticize George Bush's unilateralism. But it was Clinton's Secretary of State, Madeleine Albright, who told the United Nations Security Council that the U.S. would act 'multilaterally when we can, unilaterally when we must.” That is just one tidbit of the "powerful and continuing nationalism" that occurred under President Clinton.
Another example can be seen in perhaps the most arrogant quote by an American President: "There is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right with America." Pure American arrogance. He seems to be saying that America is the all-knowing beacon of truth in the world and that we, as a country, could not possibly learn anything from a foreigner. Such a view of the world can only be brought about by a dangerous and blinding love for one's country.
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
Anyone who is alive and conscious knows that the biggest violation of human rights in the United States over the last 20 years occurred in Waco, Texas at the hands of the federal government. The unadulterated murder of unarmed men, women and children by government is inexcusable in any country, but it is especially disturbing when it occurs in the country that is supposed to be the freest in the world.
It is sad for me to say that I would much rather be a baby-killing terrorist in Gitmo under President Bush’s watch than be a baby in the Davidian compound while Clinton was president.
Not to mention the crimes against humanity perpetuated by the Clinton administration in North Korea (three million dead), Iraq (at least 500,000 dead — yeah, Clinton killed more Iraqis than Bush without even trying), among other places.
Not to mention, his domestic spying and data mining through the Echelon program.
All in all, Clinton makes Bush look like Beaver Cleaver.
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
I know Democrats and liberals like to pretend that Republicans have all these scapegoats they blame for everything (especially gays). First of all, even if the point has any credence at all, it is not at the level of anything in Nazi Germany (so why call Bush a Nazi when the comparison is extremely insensitive and unwarranted?). The only president ever to approach that type of oppression in modern America is FDR with the internment of the Japanese.
As for liberal scapegoating, believe it or not, it exists. Democrats turn to the wealthy, large corporations (Microsoft, Wal-Mart, etc.), and “extremist Christians” (see Waco Massacre) for their source of scapegoats.
Of course, why use a minority as a scapegoat when you can just use your enemies. Remember when Hillary made her "vast right-wing conspiracy" comment?
4. Supremacy of the Military
This is almost laughable. Believe it or not, the US still had the most powerful military in the world when Clinton was president. This argument is much easier because there are so many liberals out there who have defended the way Clinton treated the military. Not only is this argument winnable without any links, but I can add links with material exclusively by liberals, just for fun that prove the point.
5. Rampant Sexism
I suppose what constitutes rampant sexism is debatable, but I think when most people are given the facts, most will acknowledge President Bill for what he is: a sexual deviant.
We will never know how many women Clinton took advantage of while he was in power. What we do know is that there is a laundry list of allegations of improper sexual advances. We are talking unwanted sexual advances here. Some write of these sex scandals as “Blowjob Gate” or “Monica Gate”. However, people with any concern for human dignity refer to them as “Rape Gate” and Sexual Assault Gate”. Libs really like to write off all these sex scandals. Perhaps because they are all as degenerate as the former president, or perhaps because they put politics over the well-being of a few nappy-headed hos.
Whatever the case may be, the president all but confirmed these allegations by systematically intimidating and auditing witnesses along with asking others to lie.
It has been a long time since most of us have recalled the track record of the Clinton regime. It makes the Plame Gate look laughable.
6. Controlled Mass Media
No offense, but if you believe George Bush or the Republican Party has control over the mass media, then you may as well give up on life, because you are devoid of any reasoning capabilities. Does anyone really argue against the idea that the news media has a strong liberal bias? Can anyone really argue otherwise?
Here are a couple tidbits that pretty much prove the point: "MSNBC.com identified 144 journalists who made political contributions from 2004 through the start of the 2008 campaign, according to the public records of the Federal Election Commission. Most of the newsroom checkbooks leaned to the left: 125 journalists gave to Democrats and liberal causes. Only 17 gave to Republicans." And again… "In a report released May 16, 2005, the researchers disclosed that the journalists they surveyed selected Democratic challenger John Kerry over incumbent Republican President George W. Bush by a wide margin, 52 percent to 19 percent..."
7. Obsession with National Security
I don’t even know what this means. Obsessed with keeping the country safe — if that makes me a Nazi, sign me up. However, Clinton, to his credit, was obsessed with national security.
However, Clinton’s obsession differs from Bush's in a fairly stark way. Bush starts wars, Clinton used sanctions. If you think about it, Clinton’s way of handling conflicts was much more sadistic, and deadly for that matter. To put it simpler terms: would you rather get blown up and die instantly, or starve to death over the course of a couple months?
Of course, Clinton's rampant bloodlust led to a couple of rather embarrassing mistakes. Like the time we bombed a Chinese Embassy, or that aspirin factory, or the time his national security advisor stuffed secret documents down his pants.
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
This is a tough one because what constitutes a religion or a religious idea is debatable. One could argue it is anything that is not based exclusively on reason that gives someone a greater purpose or meaning in life.
That being said, I think we can all agree that morals and religious ideas permeate the American government, as well as every other government around the world. You cannot separate morals from law. The notion is absurd. That being said, one of the strongest and fastest growing new age religions – environmentalism – is shoved down everyone’s throats by the Democratic Party.
Michael Crichton (not religious) has already made an extremely compelling argument as to why modern environmentalism more closely resembles a religion rather than a science. If you buy the argument (if you read it and have an open mind, you will) then you will agree that modern environmentalism is the closest thing we have to a state established religion in the US.
Of course, as an enlightened libertarian, I would argue that any government action that is unnecessary is just as bad as forcing religion on someone. Coercion is coercion. The motive behind it is inconsequential. I don’t care if it is for religious, moral, nice, compassionate, or environmental reasons. Get out of my life, and stop telling me how to live, spend my money, and treat other people (other than directly harming someone of course).
9. Corporate Power is Protected
Who knows what this is supposed to mean, but believe it or not, all the corporations that are around today were around when Clinton was president too. Not to mention, all those corporate scandals in the early years of Bush’s presidency actually occurred when Clinton was president. It wasn’t until they were brought to light under the all-knowing guidance of George W. Bush that these corporate criminals were prosecuted and convicted.
It is important to note that free trade, long rued by socialists and other freedom haters everywhere, was one of Bill Clinton’s stronger points. Don’t pretend you don’t remember NAFTA.
10. Labor Power is Suppressed
This from the Labor Party (maybe not the most mainstream voice, but I think it makes the point): “Clinton’s support for schemes like the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) … have led directly to an epidemic of plant closings, hundreds of thousands of jobs lost, and the exploding trade deficit.”
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
George W. Bush has greatly increased spending for education at the federal level. A fact that is indisputable and one that actually upsets a lot of conservatives.
Meanwhile, Al Gore (Clinton's VP), has taken a strong stance against intellectual debate, saying balanced news coverage of global warming is "bias". Don't worry, it doesn't make sense to me either.
Either way, Clinton's VP sure seems to have a disdain for people who intellectually disagree with him.
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
Oh those libs and their obsession with gun control; do I even need to post links for this?
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
The Clinton Legacy:
The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify Most number of witnesses to die suddenly First president sued for sexual harassment. First president accused of rape. First first lady to come under criminal investigation Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case First president to establish a legal defense fund. First president to be held in contempt of court Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court
14. Fraudulent Elections
Republicans tend not to bitch as loudly and as obnoxiously as Democrats do, but I would argue that there is more evidence to prove that Clinton stole the 1996 election than there is that Bush stole 2000 or 2004.
Let me guess — you don’t know what I am talking about, do you? Face it. Republicans are just better losers than Democrats. Democrats lose an election that happens to be close, and it is stolen.
Republicans notice serious violations of fundraising laws that involve foreign involvement (China) and (like Nixon when Kennedy stole the 1960 election) they graciously bow out for the best of the country.
The only conclusion I can draw after this careful and fair analysis of President Clinton and Democrats, is that they are just as much Nazi and fascist as any Republicans I know. Maybe even worse — it is hard to say.
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Excellent post. I’ll print this out for the libs at the UN tomorrow. Thanks.
As slick willie would say, “Sounds like another conservative hit job to me.”
Bill Clinton Is A Nazi ~~ maybe maybe not!!!
but his so-called wife...the piaps is a true socialist that embraces most values of the communist karl marx!!!!
bill clinton is the man who, among his litany of acts undermining national character, made certain activities that are misdemeanors at a local bar into federal offenses in front of an abortion clinic by signing the very loosely worded FACE law.
If one can logically deduct that Bill is a Nazi, than so is Hillary Clinton.
Someone please alert the MSM
I'd be much more inclined to believe that Billzo was a Klansman, just like his ol'buddy Jim Webb.
This one should have been in the press day after day. The weak Republicans just accepted letters from their attorneys, not making a big deal of it. Think of the visual and "feeling" (for libs) power of a video showing person after person pleading the fifth before committees, together with senators reading from the letters from lawyers while a picture of the pleader showed on the screen. It would be much harder for Dems to claim Republican "culture of corruption." Too bad, the gentlemanly (/S) Republicans just let it go.
Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
This one is really outrageous and most Americans have no idea about it.
Uh oh. This guy is a libertarian. Doesn’t that mean that he is a nut and his article is a bunch of crazy ramblings?
Maybe we should base our opinions on the strength of his arguments, rather than what he is?
Would you like a little umbrella for your drink? ;)
“Nazi”? Please. “Corrupt freak” is more than sufficient.
Of course Clinton was a klansman. All Travelers (see Irish Traveler cult) are committed cons and racists, not to mention xenophobic cultics. Their morality is theirs alone. Anyone or anything outside the borders of their culture is fair game.
Never let it be forgotten, the Clintons are the most dangerous threat to the US in its history.
Some of the things he cites are the reasons I disagree with the term "islamo-fascists". Although an attention getting descriptor, there is a lot more to it than "being a nasty customer". It is an entire economic construct not just having a despot in control.
From "As We go Marching"
[Fascism] is a form of social organization
1. In which the government ackkowledges no restraint upon its powers-totalitarianism.
2. In which unrestrained government is managed by a dictator-the leadership principle.
3. In which the government is organized to operate the capitalist system and enable it to function under an immense bureaucracy.
4. In which the economic society is organized on the syndicalist model, that is by producing groups formed into craft and professional categories under supervision of the state.
5. In which the government and the syndicalist organizations operate the capitalist society on the planned and autarchial principle.
6. In which the government holds itself responsible to provide the nation with adequate purchasing power by public spending and borrowing.
7. In which militarism is used as a consious mechanism of government spending and
8. In which imperialism is included as a policy inevitably flowing from militarismas well as other elements of facsism.
That is what I get for falling asleep watching the Marx Brothers last night
I wonder how Monica feels about this....
Don't forget VAWA, either. One swing of the gavel, and you're a felon on unrelated, unstated, un-defendable charges. I.e., if you're a legal gun owner and you have a misdemeanor conviction for domestic violence (which can mean the wife got the husband convicted in a state or municipal or even J.P. court over very small-beer complaints ["he pushed me!"]), then you are a felon under VAWA.
No charges, no complaints, no warning -- boom, you're a federal felon, liable for a major federal sentence.
The Emerson case was in part a VAWA case, which Dr. Emerson defended with arguments from the Second, Fifth, and Fourteenth Amendments (firearms ownership abridged, due process abridged in the face of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments).
Hillary got Slick to pass that one -- sneak preview of what she'll do if elected President.
Bobby Byrd is the former exalted cyclops.
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