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'Christian patriots' interrupt Hindu prayer in Senate
Worldnetdaily.com ^ | July 12, 2007

Posted on 07/13/2007 3:03:13 PM PDT by Lesforlife

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Thursday, July 12, 2007 VIDEONETDAILY 'Christian patriots' interrupt Hindu prayer in Senate 'Lord Jesus, forgive us, Father, for allowing … abomination in your sight' Posted: July 12, 2007 4:36 p.m. Eastern

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? Hindu cleric Rajan Zed turns toward protester as he prepares to open Senate with prayer (CNN)

Three protesters interrupted a Hindu cleric today who became the first from his religion to offer the Senate's opening prayer.

Breitbart.tv has video of Rajan Zed, director of interfaith relations at a Hindu temple in Reno, Nev., preparing to pray when a clear, loud voice came from the Senate gallery.

"Lord Jesus, forgive us, Father, for allowing the prayer of the wicked, which is an abomination in your sight," said a male protester.

The Senate's sergeant at arms was instructed to restore order, but Zed was interrupted again.

"You shall have no other gods before you. … "

Zed, who was invited by Democratic Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, finally offered his prepared prayer.

"We meditate on the transcendental glory of the deity supreme, who is inside the heart of the Earth, inside the life of the sky and inside the soul of the heaven," he said. "May he stimulate and illuminate our minds."

Police officers arrested the three protesters and charged them with disrupting Congress, a misdemeanor, the Associated Press reported. The male protester told an AP reporter, "we are Christians and patriots" before officers handcuffed them and led them away.

Reid, in remarks from the chamber shortly after the prayer, defended his choice, tying it to the intense debate over the Iraq war.

"If people have any misunderstanding about Indians and Hindus, all they have to do is think of Gandhi," a man "who gave his life for peace," Reid said.

"I think it speaks well of our country that someone representing the faith of about a billion people comes here and can speak in communication with our heavenly Father regarding peace," said Reid.

The AP said Capitol police identified the protesters as Ante Nedlko Pavkovic, Katherine Lynn Pavkovic and Christan Renee Sugar.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 110th; hindu; hinduprayer; ussenate
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To: herMANroberts

or brand for that matter


41 posted on 07/13/2007 4:04:17 PM PDT by herMANroberts
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To: Lesforlife

The “patriots” just made usefull idiots of themselves.. what they did was add more fuel to the fire for those who blame everything on Christians or Christianity...

I bet the Dims were probably quite smug when the patriots starting spouting off...


42 posted on 07/13/2007 4:07:47 PM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com; GAB-1955
Yeah, the nerve of them, disrupting the world’s greatest deliberative body of thieves and traitors. What would we come to, if the people’s voices were heard in the Senate chamber?

A nation under mob rule by ACT UP and CODE PINK since most Republicans have jobs and can't spend all day shouting down what they don't want to hear.

43 posted on 07/13/2007 4:08:01 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: happilymarriedmom
If I were a Senator I would have to wear ear plugs or say a Christian prayer to myself.

Or just don't go. Attending prayers isn't mandatory for the Senate -- First Amendment, you know.

44 posted on 07/13/2007 4:09:16 PM PDT by Caesar Soze
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

I understand, but the left will not object to Hindu and Muslim prayer because their (the left’s) agenda is driven by their hatred for Christians and their fear for anything non-Christian.


45 posted on 07/13/2007 4:12:41 PM PDT by 353FMG (America, first, last and always.)
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To: Saundra Duffy
"I agree with you."

Thank you. That's very interesting. A Romney advocate agreed with a Duncan Hunter advocate (also Noachide Chassid - a Gentile student of a great Rabbi).


46 posted on 07/13/2007 4:16:27 PM PDT by familyop
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To: balch3
how far we have fallen from the founding fathers...

"But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." -- Thomas Jefferson, 1782
47 posted on 07/13/2007 4:16:55 PM PDT by mngran
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To: Polybius
Furthermore, the idea of shouting out from the Visitor’s Galley is odious. We don’t want Cindy Sheehan to make a fuss? We must follow the same rules.

Unfortunately we have our own Christian "Taliban" here in America.

48 posted on 07/13/2007 4:20:15 PM PDT by cerberus
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To: Lesforlife
our heavenly Father

According to Jesus Christ and the Apostle Paul, Reid's heavenly father is the "god of this world," none other than Satan himself. In this act of rebellion, Reid has clearly exposed himself as "a child of darkness," "a child of the devil," according to the Apostle John. Here is Harry Reid primary problem, as well as with other liberals.

49 posted on 07/13/2007 4:26:01 PM PDT by evangmlw
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To: evangmlw

</i> oops!


50 posted on 07/13/2007 4:27:32 PM PDT by evangmlw
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To: Lesforlife

I dont understand the pantheists. With sooooo many gawds, how do they know when, and who, to pray to?


51 posted on 07/13/2007 5:37:09 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (The liberty we prize is not America’s gift to the world, it is God’s gift to humanity.”GWB-03)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
That Islam is inherently intolerant and often rationalizes using any means against others, even the freedoms of the target society is not news, or the point.

My point is that some of the Founding Fathers believed that any attempt to shout down the beliefs of others on the basis of those beliefs alone is far more dangerous to the Republic than nearly anything those beliefs could espouse- no matter how abhorrent; the best way is to let rational citizens speak and listen. Franklin was of the opinion that citizens should be able to listen to Imam, Rabbi and atheist alike and make up their minds.

52 posted on 07/13/2007 5:37:33 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA)
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To: rawcatslyentist

you’re right, you don’t understand. you live in a box, when there is a beautiful world out there to explore. if you knew more about your world, you would understand that while Hinduism does have many gods, there is also one abstract god that is often the one prayed to.


53 posted on 07/13/2007 5:42:56 PM PDT by invincible
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To: RedStateRocker

Franklin was on point and I appreciate your post.

People that support these three “Christian patriots” are completely out of touch with both the heart and foundation of America and also the purpose as to why the Hindu chaplain was invited to do the opening prayer.

In India, on Christmas, Hindus everywhere, at least around New Delhi, say “Merry Christmas” to everyone. That’s something that’s not even done here.

The strongest religious patriots are those who practice their beliefs WITHOUT trampling on those of others.


54 posted on 07/13/2007 5:45:45 PM PDT by invincible
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To: invincible
>"you’re right, you don’t understand. You do??

you live in a box,And you dont????

when there is a beautiful world out there to explore"It all comes together in the same place.

It is an honor to make the aquaintance of such a superior being. Oh how did you ever lower your standards enough to even acknowledge the existance of one of the lowly? But then again the rat/dog/cat/elephant/bird/sea lion/penguin/cephalopod gods don't expound on the virtues of humility.

55 posted on 07/13/2007 5:54:00 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (The liberty we prize is not America’s gift to the world, it is God’s gift to humanity.”GWB-03)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Mental deficiency used to be more finely classified using the following technical terms that later began to be abused by the rest of society (5):

IQ Range Classification
70-80 Borderline deficiency
50-69 Moron
20-49 Imbecile
below 20 Idiot


56 posted on 07/13/2007 5:54:50 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: balch3

My original thought was that these ‘patriots’ were really just assholes. Your post reminded me to always listen to my first instinct.


57 posted on 07/13/2007 6:01:20 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Polybius
These people were not arrested "for their beliefs". They were arrested for creating a public nuisance in the Senate

Agreed. We don't need "Christian patriots" acting like typical leftist moonbats, disrupting things. And this brings to light the problem with these sorts of prayers. The true believer is offended if the prayer does not match his beliefs, so prayer is either offensive to many people or else it is watered down to nothing. And this allows the leftists to pose as protectors of tolerance while we know that they would oppose any Christian prayer. What is all this "Christian patriot" business, anyways? Some people on the right mix God and nationalism like some people on the left mix God and socialism.

58 posted on 07/13/2007 6:25:43 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: happilymarriedmom

There weren’t any senators there but bedwetter Reid and one other senatorial somnambulist, actually. Even the possibly living Mr.Byrd had been wheeled out from the day before and not wheeled back in again. Any Rotary meeting in rural America would draw a vastly larger and substantially more intellegent crowd than the opening of the Senate of the United States does on a daily basis— and a more patriotic one. Most of the U.S. Senators are too demented, or hung over or too old or too busy sucking up to big money to go to their place of employment many days, and they are probably better paid to be elsewhere even if by some curious lapse of senatorial standards they might want to go to the Senate out of curiosity. These millionaires don’t think like the rest of us and ought not to be re-elected, even if some of them might have to take up honest work for awhile after weaning from their source of sustenance. In the war on terror this is probably an advantage for Senators. Why would a foreign terrorist want to harm a U.S. Senator? They are not very American, and they already wet themselves waiting for elevators, for the disclosures of bimbos and for lobbyists, for the six-o’clock news, and for the debriefings of the interns and pages. A logical terrorist would conclude they are not worth much effort. When you’ve got such a worthless lot, their replacements could hardly be any sorrier.


59 posted on 07/13/2007 6:40:50 PM PDT by mathurine
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To: Rome2000
>"Mental deficiency used to be more finely classified using the following technical terms that later began to be abused by the rest of society (5):"

You must be wearing a tall hat, cause I cant see yer point. /jk

60 posted on 07/13/2007 7:07:38 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (The liberty we prize is not America’s gift to the world, it is God’s gift to humanity.”GWB-03)
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