Haven’t read this yet, but my revisionist history antennae are twitching. Searching for a large grain of salt ...
This was part of the NYS grade school civics curriculum by 1983 at the latest.
I highly doubt that the founding fathers were wowed by the algonquin round table
Well, I’d first like to read the Great Law of Peace, to see what’s in it.
How does it really matter?
Anoter PC phantasm
Chingagook might disagree!
It’s an old thesis, and the answer is no.
"This isn't very current but I'd heard this claim in another venue and I'm trying to figure out how many state schools teach this, and what facts are accurate."
Read the excellent recent biography of John Adams by David McCullough and you will find that John Adams himself was the Founding Father contributing much of the original concepts. Adams was classically educated and his concepts came from enlightened thinkers in Europe, particularly England and France.
The Iroquois were an especially gifted and organized people, but the notion that American concepts of freedom came from them is hogwash and nothing more than leftist and revisionist gobbledygook.
The one thing we should be able to agree upon was that our founding fathers put together a remarkable set of ideas which was opposed by the elitists and divine rightists then just as it is now, albeit under the color of different wording of their shallow arguments.
It is also worth noting that the Iroquois Confederation was the result of hundreds of years of internecine warfare long before the Europeans arrived. Such warfare has been repeated almost everywhere on the planet as the economic base moved from the hunter/gatherer phase to the herdsman/farmer phase. The Cherokee (included in my family heritage), generally considered to be the most civilized of tribes are so considered because they were one of the first to develop a written language. Guess where they got that idea?
33 Questions About American History You're Not Supposed to Ask, by Tom Woods.
Highly recommended.
I thought they got the inspiration from Pogo.
Can anyone tell me the names of the 7 Iroquois nations?
Its been a while since I was in grade school
They got their ideas from Dead White Men: the Bible, the Greek model of democracy, and English common law.
The Iroquois Confederation probably had a bigger impact on the formation of Canada than the US.
PC doody. I am sure the Indians had some interesting customs and ideas. But this person has never heard of the Enlightenment and its luminaries, John Locke, whose writings were the basis for the Declaration of Independence; Voltaire, paging Voltaire, freedom of speech was his idea; Montesquieu, whose insights basically framed the Constitution. The Founding Fathers were well schooled in the thinking of the Enlightenment and familiar with those thinkers. Any input the Iroquois might have had would be secondary or tertiary to concepts of the European Enlightenment.
No.
This subject is a conflicting one, since answering the question in any substantive way gives credence to a truly stupid notion.
This is strictly in the "anything is possible" school of speculation, where the ignorant, the marginally insane and the demagogues dwell. It dovetails beautifully with the silly "All cultures are equal" school of discussion.
Only the ignorant, the marginally literate and culturally clueless would spend more than a few seconds pondering the possibility of the statement.
No, but maybe the Jihad i's have read some Iroquois history taken a few pointers of how to murder and mutilate human beings in the most gruesome ways possible.
The revisionist history that is infesting this country is disgusting.