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To: Pharmboy; LS

Haven’t read this yet, but my revisionist history antennae are twitching. Searching for a large grain of salt ...


2 posted on 07/13/2007 9:14:13 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Brian J. Marotta, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub, (1948-2007) Rest In Peace, our FRiend)
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To: NonValueAdded

Since they left europe to form a new country based on these ideas before even meeting this indian tribe, I’d say his argument is wrong.

Also since the tribe was run by a chief in a structured way and not a democratic approach, I’d say he is wrong.


7 posted on 07/13/2007 9:20:24 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: NonValueAdded
"... my revisionist history antennae are twitching."

I have to agree with you.

17 posted on 07/13/2007 9:29:18 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: NonValueAdded
Rakove is a lefty, but at least he shows independence and does not go for the easy, PC fix.

As a side note, the Iroquis fought with the Brits as did the rest of the Five Nations--except for one: The Oneidas. They were on the patriot side throughout the RevWar.

So, if you ever want to support Indian enterprise, you can feel especially good about supporting the Oneidas (they are mainly in NY State and Wisconsin, today).

81 posted on 07/13/2007 10:55:48 AM PDT by Pharmboy ([She turned me into a] Newt! in '08)
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To: NonValueAdded

It’s silly. Even if a) the Founders gave SERIOUS consideration to the notion that non-Euros could have important thoughts about concepts of self-government, they b) would have been overwhelmed by their own voluminous readings of Locke and the other Enlightenment thinkers.


111 posted on 07/14/2007 1:29:20 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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