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Conservatives Shouldn't Abandon Bush
Townhall.com ^ | July 13, 2007 | Mike Gallagher

Posted on 07/13/2007 5:15:02 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: DrDeb; NordP

There’s obviously no reasoning with them about it. They’ve gotten their knickers in a twist and won’t hear anything to the contrary.


441 posted on 07/13/2007 6:26:34 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: philman_36; All
Ah do declayuh!

Fiddle-de-de!

Rosebud...

Oh, crap. Wrong movie.

442 posted on 07/13/2007 6:30:03 PM PDT by 60Gunner (ER Nursing: You watch it... We live it!)
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To: SuziQ

See #440


443 posted on 07/13/2007 6:30:24 PM PDT by LibKill (Bush betrayed conservatives on Immigration. NO support for Bush.)
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To: LibKill
He said I did not want "what's right for America".

He can shove that up his @ss.

I did 9 years in the USMC. He has no right to question my patriotism. And he did question my patriotism.

Indeed, he uttered those words, insulting and besmirching us all, especially insulting to those who have honorably served our country. Thank you for your service, LibKill.

444 posted on 07/13/2007 6:31:22 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: ClearCase_guy; DevSix
Actually, in post 22, DevSix is taking YOU to task for your comments in Post 5 showing your willingness to continue to pound the President on Immigration. Your attitude like so many others' who have become so offended by the President, has created the atmosphere for the Democrats to pound HIM in the press and use their clout in Congress to make his prosecution of the War much more difficult, thus placing our military in danger.

You may say you support the troops, but by continually dissing the President over the Immigration issue, and continuing to denigrate him even beyond that, you're handing the issue of Iraq to the Democrats. Just what do you think THEY'LL do with it?

445 posted on 07/13/2007 6:33:58 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: LibKill

The President was always in favor of Immigration reform. Maybe you didn’t pay attention to that until it became a legislative battle, but he was always for it.


446 posted on 07/13/2007 6:35:54 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Kaslin

Bush needs to declare war on Democrats. Tell the kook left fringe to STFU and avoid the LSM for more Conservative media outlets. He’s the most powerful person on the planet yet he’s such a wuss taking on the ‘Rats. He has the means with no resolve.


447 posted on 07/13/2007 6:39:19 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (RINO cleaner - the backbone restorer)
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To: SuziQ; LibKill
The President was always in favor of Immigration reform. Maybe you didn’t pay attention to that until it became a legislative battle, but he was always for it.

Uh....while we're strolling down memory lane, let's remember it all:

In 1995, the Texas Governor's [yes, as in George W. Bush] press secretary, Karen Hughes, issued a statement regarding Bush's support of a legal appeal by Texas Attorney General Dan Morales [Texas v. United States, B-94-228 (S.D. Texas 1995) 95-40721 (5th Cir.) (pdf file)], to recover $1.34 billion spent by his state on the incarceration and education of illegal immigrants.

"It's not fair to the taxpayers of Texas to stick them with the bill when the government fails to enforce immigration laws," Hughes said to reporters then.

Karen Hughes wasn't speaking without authority. In 1995, when Gov. Bush was suing the United States' Government for $5 billion, he said:

"If the federal government cannot do its job of enforcing the borders, then it owes the states monies to pay for its failure."

That's right, when George W. Bush was Governor of the State of Texas, he sued the federal government for reimbursement of the costs of incarcerating illegal aliens, yet there are millions more illegal aliens in the United States now than when Bill Clinton was President.

* * *
And, when campaigning for President in 1999, George W. Bush issued this statement:

[Federal expenditures would be more effective] "...at the front end, to stop people from illegally entering our country, not at the back end, by reimbursing states after it has failed to enforce the border." [I] "would allocate additional resources to enforcing the border, so states such as Texas and California would not have the huge expenses they currently do." (San Francisco Chronicle, Sept. 9, 1999)
And, during his 2004 Campaign, the President said this:

THIRD PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES' DEBATE
ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY, TEMPE, ARIZONA
October 13, 2004

SCHIEFFER: Let's go to a new question, Mr. President. I got more e-mail this week on this question than any other question. And it is about immigration.

I'm told that at least 8,000 people cross our borders illegally every day. Some people believe this is a security issue, as you know.....

How do you see it? And what do we need to do about it?

BUSH: I see it as a serious problem. I see it as a security issue, I see it as an economic issue, and I see it as a human-rights issue.

We're increasing the border security of the United States. We've got 1,000 more Border Patrol agents on the southern border.

We're using new equipment. We're using unmanned vehicles to spot people coming across.

And we'll continue to do so over the next four years.


If the President is as serious as he claims to be about securing our borders, and clamping down on illegal aliens coming by the droves into our country, then why do we have the following results from him and his Administration?

...according to the Appropriations Committee yesterday [June 13, 2007], there's $864 million cash on hand in the Department of Homeland Security right now for building the border fence. Now, in seven months since the president signed this bill -- that's October 26 -- they've only built, according to the schedule we got yesterday, 13 miles...


448 posted on 07/13/2007 6:39:47 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: DrDeb

Love that piece by the Anchoress. It really puts the whole Bush presidency in perspective.


449 posted on 07/13/2007 6:40:03 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: nicmarlo
Well said!

Gawd, we could sure use another Teddy Roosevelt!

450 posted on 07/13/2007 6:42:01 PM PDT by 60Gunner (ER Nursing: You watch it... We live it!)
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To: DrDeb
pyrrhic victories

Echoes of Mike McConnell in there. I think I heard the same approach on his show (or his Saturday clone's show) about a week ago.

I disagreed with McConnell(?). This current state of affairs is only better if the new bill was far worse. It was far worse. It gave immediate status to every single illegal in the country, and it did it before any barrier was constructed.

We already have no barrier, but at least we can argue the invaders are illegal.

Regarding the remainder of your post. I agree. Pres. Bush deserves credit for every fine thing, and there are many, that he has done.

451 posted on 07/13/2007 6:42:11 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: 60Gunner
Gawd, we could sure use another Teddy Roosevelt!

Amen to that one!

452 posted on 07/13/2007 6:42:48 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: SuziQ
Since the President was crystal clear on what he wanted to see as far as Immigration reform was concerned WAY back when he first started running for office, why are you surprised, and worse, OFFENDED by his stance?

He didn't say anything at the time about merging the US with Canada and Mexico or transcontinental highways of turning Mexican truckers loose on American soil. No, there is quite a lot that he didn't say. And why is he doing all this in secret until it is jammed down our throats?

453 posted on 07/13/2007 6:45:13 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: SuziQ
The President was always in favor of Immigration reform. Maybe you didn’t pay attention to that until it became a legislative battle, but he was always for it.

He never said that he was in favor of amnesty until he was a very lame duck.

And he questioned my patriotism.

I now question his patriotism.

Between the two of us I did more time in uniform and a LOT more overseas than he did. (he did zero time overseas)

I am a patriot.

He is a politician and not a very good one. I regret voting for him.

He is no patriot, unless he is a patriot of Mexico.

454 posted on 07/13/2007 6:49:26 PM PDT by LibKill (Bush betrayed conservatives on Immigration. NO support for Bush.)
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To: mefistofelerevised

You are completly ignoring that it is the left like Senators Kennedy, Hillary Clinton, Harry Reid, Speaker Pelosi etc who want amnesty for the illegals because that would mean votes for demomcrats. President Bush only wants what he thinks is good for the country


455 posted on 07/13/2007 6:50:53 PM PDT by Kaslin (Fred Thompson for President 2008)
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To: GinaLolaB
Also, Bush rebuilt the Clintons and aimed Hillary right at us again for another 8 years of hell.

You have a good point there. Wasn't it disgusting to watch Clinton and Bush Sr. running around together, best friends that they are.

456 posted on 07/13/2007 6:51:10 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: 60Gunner
Gawd, we could sure use another Teddy Roosevelt!

Oh yes. I'd squeeze myself back into my USMC dress blues and reenlist for such a president, at my age, 50.

457 posted on 07/13/2007 6:51:33 PM PDT by LibKill (Bush betrayed conservatives on Immigration. NO support for Bush.)
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To: LibKill

I thank you for your service! [FYI: I’m a staunch supporter of our military and contribute A LOT of money to military causes . . . I also serve as an unofficial advocate for and advisor to MANY veterans on my campus — most under the age of 25 . . . I help them deal with a breadth of issues including Stalinist professors who despise them because they are (former) military.]

Now that you know I’m not the enemy, I hope you will take my recommendation and read the President’s ENTIRE speech (not a few cherry picked lines) and draw your own conclusions.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/20070529-7.html


458 posted on 07/13/2007 6:55:00 PM PDT by DrDeb (IF STANDING FOR LIBERTY IN THE WORLD MAKES ME A DISSIDENT, I WEAR THAT TITLE WITH PRIDE. GWB -07)
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To: Kaslin; All
You do realize the last time Congress declared war was in WWII, don't you?

Speaks volumes about the lack of moral courage that has slowly flooded the halls of Congress, doesn't it?

459 posted on 07/13/2007 6:59:20 PM PDT by 60Gunner (ER Nursing: You watch it... We live it!)
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To: DrDeb
Thank you for showing some class.

I have no support for bush since he insulted me.

If he ever takes back that "if you don't want what's right for America" comment and also apologizes for the arrogance of "see you at the signing ceremony" when he tried to shove Mexico down our throats for the SECOND time...

If he apologizes, humbly, with no ifs-ands-or-buts. If he apologizes ABJECTLY to us conservatives I may be interested in reading something he said.

Until then he can shove his whole 8 years up his butt.

460 posted on 07/13/2007 7:00:12 PM PDT by LibKill (Bush betrayed conservatives on Immigration. NO support for Bush.)
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