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Will the left in this country come to its senses? Boy, that's a tough one. How about "NO" for an answer?
1 posted on 07/12/2007 9:37:41 AM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito

If John F. Kennedy was around today he’d be somewhat to the right of Giuliani and McCain.


2 posted on 07/12/2007 9:42:50 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: mojito

‘Inherit The Wind’ was written in the early 1950s and intended as an allegory of McCarthyism as such it takes brazen liberties with the actual events of the 1925 trial.


3 posted on 07/12/2007 9:43:07 AM PDT by Borges
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Most of the Liberals I know look to JFK and FDR as icons of the Liberal movement. But JFK died 44 years ago and FDR goes back 60 years. They need to get over it and get on with their lives, constructing the future, not reliving the past.

But they won’t...


4 posted on 07/12/2007 9:49:07 AM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: mojito
In the minds of liberals, then, Kennedy's killer should have been a right-wing fanatic.

In spite of the left's love of "Inherit the Wind", they will never accept the scientific method for one simple reason. Science is blind to ideology -- fact based. Hard Left ideologues will never accept reasoning where they cannot control the outcome.

I fully expect text books to eventually blame JFK's death on conservatives just as they discount Reagan when discussing the fall of the Soviet Union. Their irrationality when viewing history is a major reason why Putin is able to quietly reconstruct Soviet Russia.

7 posted on 07/12/2007 9:49:59 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: mojito

“against the Bible-thumping antievolutionist William Jennings Bryan.”

He was an eternal “also ran” Democrat candidate. Much like Al Gore Junior, it was his final issue to gain the public spotlight.


8 posted on 07/12/2007 9:51:35 AM PDT by weegee (If the Fairness Doctrine is imposed on USA who will CNN news get to read the conservative rebuttal)
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To: mojito
The US has a long history of factionalism, and party strife. You can look to the 19th century for some real slapdown fights and mud-slinging. The 20th century has not really been different.

What has changed, I think, is that one party has become dominated by emotionally immature people who do not think clearly on major issues. People say Leftism is a mental illness, and I think that is true.

In the 1960's, there were certain Liberals (JFK, RFK, MLK, and Hubert Humphrey come to mind) and things weren't too crazy. But then JFK, RFK and MLK got killed. I think at that point the American Left gave up on Liberalism and walked away from the survivors like Hubert Humphrey. Instead, we got the Black Panthers, Weather Underground, and Hillary Clinton. Ever since, the Democrats have been dominated by people who don't have their head screwed on srtraight.

They hate this country because their dreams of Liberalism was taken away from them in their youth. Ever since, they have hated this country and sought to bring it down, and they indoctrinate the young in similar thinking. Howard Dean is crazy, Nancy Pelosi is crazy, all the Dems are.

9 posted on 07/12/2007 9:53:51 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Progressives like to keep doing the things that didn't work in the past.)
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To: mojito
This is a great article. Wish it were longer!

Guess I'll have to keep an eye peeled for the book.

14 posted on 07/12/2007 10:07:18 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ("Ve`attah, hirgu khol-zakhar bataf; vekhol-'ishah yoda`at 'ish lemishkav zakhar harogu!")
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To: mojito

“It’s not reason that is at the heart of modern-day liberalism but rather the claim to superior virtue and, even more important, to a special knowledge unavailable to the unwashed or unenlightened”

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That is absolutely spot-on!!


17 posted on 07/12/2007 10:16:56 AM PDT by Vinny (What is a liberal? Someone that is a friend of every country but his own.)
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To: Shooter 2.5; tpaine
Bravo, and bookmarked. This article explains my previously stated reason for why I do what I do in the Oswald threads.

Some here want to ignore the reality of the early-1960s American left wing and instead choose to disbelieve and excuse the whole culture of the violent left based upon the unpredictability of 'magic bullet' terminal ballistics after it's passed through human tissue. To them, random circumstance vanquishes all logic.

Special thanks go to the 'Lone Gunman' deniers who have been carrying water for the radical left wing for over 40 years.

22 posted on 07/12/2007 10:25:24 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: mojito
I think it is important to remember that JFK was murdered by a hardcore leftist specifically because he was (relatively) a hawk on national defense.

There is no doubt that Oswald was nutty as a loon but that is true of many of the lefties on the stage today. He was basically a prototype for later '60s radical types like Tom Hayden, John Kerry, SDS, the Weathermen, etc. The main difference was that he was a genuine poor person working alone and they were mostly a country club of spoiled rich white boys.

Lee Harvey Oswald was the father of the modern "Progressive" left and the shot he fired from the Texas School Book Depository was the opening shot of the hard left takeover of the Democrat party that took hold by the end of the Vietnam War.

Most of the alleged "controversy" about the assassination is an attempt to cover up the fact that JFK was killed by the left because he, whatever his VERY great faults, was not a traitor. They have done a very good job of muddying the waters.

23 posted on 07/12/2007 10:30:35 AM PDT by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
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To: mojito
IMHO somewhere between 1955 and 1965 America “peaked out” as a great nation standing on the firm foundation established in 1776. Since that time America has been going forward on the momentum built up by the first century and half of its existence through some trying times. Lyndon Johnson’s “Great Society” represented the beginning of the expansion of Federal powers and the welfare state. That trend has grown exponentially and will continue to do so as more and more individual liberties are surrendered to the Federal government. Look to socialist Europe to see the future of America, sadly.
27 posted on 07/12/2007 10:34:54 AM PDT by CarryingOn (America will not survive another Clinton presidency.)
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To: mojito; PGalt; Milhous; E.G.C.
It's not reason that is at the heart of modern-day liberalism but rather the claim to superior virtue and, even more important, to a special knowledge unavailable to the unwashed or unenlightened. Depending on the temper of the time, such virtue and knowledge can derive disproportionately from scientism or mysticism--or it can mix large dollops of both.
The opposite of scientism and of mysticism is candor. Rush Limbaugh is candid - he expresses himself openly, and continuously for hours at a time daily. Contrast that with the constricted "news" report which is scripted in advance (if it's not "breaking news") and which in any case is about a defined subject on which the reporter is, putatively, the expert and you and I are presumed to be ignorant. The reporter is always in a race to stay ahead of the rest of us in his knowledge of the story - and when that is no longer possible, the reporter drops the story as "old news" and moves on to another story in which the reporter has the advantage over the audience.

28 posted on 07/12/2007 10:46:47 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: mojito

What senses?????


30 posted on 07/12/2007 10:55:19 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: mojito
During his presidency, Kennedy had repeatedly criticized the irrationalism of far-right-wing anticommunists and their segregationist cousins

Many of those "segregationist cousins" were, in fact, Southern Democrats. Think George Wallace.

31 posted on 07/12/2007 11:01:25 AM PDT by Justice
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To: mojito

BUMP


32 posted on 07/12/2007 11:15:15 AM PDT by jokar (for it is by grace, http://www.gbible.org)
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To: mojito

Must you post this Camelot crap here?


35 posted on 07/12/2007 11:53:48 AM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Evil never stops.)
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To: mojito

Unfortunately not. Stuck in the sixties holistically. Can’t/won’t grow up.


39 posted on 07/12/2007 12:54:36 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: mojito; y'all
From the article:

During his presidency, Kennedy had repeatedly criticized the irrationalism of far-right-wing anticommunists and their segregationist cousins. It was a turbulent time, lest we forget.
In April 1963, the police in Birmingham, Ala., had set dogs upon peaceful civil-rights marchers, and in June segregationists in Mississippi assassinated NAACP leader Medgar Evers.
In October, protesters in Dallas had harassed Adlai Stevenson, Kennedy's United Nations ambassador. Dallas was a notoriously segregated city, and the John Birch Society (whose members thought President Eisenhower had been under communist sway) were a part of the city's political culture.
The society's Dallas leader was Gen. Edwin Walker, whom Oswald had tried to kill in April by shooting at him through a window in his home. (Oswald just missed.)
Thus when Kennedy was shot on Nov. 22, 1963, it was widely assumed that his killer was the kind of hate-filled reactionary who believed Kennedy to be selling out America to Soviet Communism and to be showing too little resistance to the civil-rights movement.

That was not "widely assumed" at all - as Oswald's defection to the Soviet Union was established almost immediately.

In the minds of liberals, then, Kennedy's killer should have been a right-wing fanatic. But he wasn't. Oswald was a man of the hard left. He had defected to the Soviet Union. When he found that country too bureaucratic, he returned to America and began proselytizing for Fidel Castro and his supposedly new brand of the third-world revolution.

Yep, those facts were shouted from the rooftops, leaving many rational people doubtful of Oswald's motives from day one.
- Why would a known leftist shoot at JFK? - It made no sense then, - and it still doesn't now.

Nor was Oswald an irrational, discontented Dostoevskian loner, as some depicted him.
He was in fact a joiner of movements and something of a self-defined intellectual who thought that his mixture of Marxism and anarchism made him smarter and more sophisticated than his frivolous peers.

Yes indeed. - As details of Oswalds life became known -- long before the Warren Report was published, - the mystery of his motivation was being discussed. - However, most people were willing to wait for the Report before making judgments.

Little did we know that the Report would raise more questions than it resolved; - it was a mess, and the American people overwhelmingly rejected it immediately. - Before any conspiracy books were even published.

48 posted on 07/12/2007 8:01:45 PM PDT by tpaine (" My most important function on the Supreme Court is to tell the majority to take a walk." -Scalia)
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To: mojito
Liberals have been nurturing paranoid fantasies about the Right for a long time. Liberalism if you like, has been one long flight from reality. The ability to disconnect from reality provides it with much of its emotive appeal, that's translated into raw political power. In short, liberalism is utopianism. Marx tried to ground the Left in scientific reality; it has rejected it for the more satisfying ability to remake the world, as if on command, out of one's fevered thoughts. That has defined the essence of American liberalism and if liberals stop dreaming, they cease being liberals.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

51 posted on 07/13/2007 5:00:21 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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