Posted on 07/11/2007 12:38:49 PM PDT by GOP_Raider
OKLAHOMA CITY -- The Oklahoma football program must forfeit its wins from the 2005 season and will lose two scholarships for the 2008-09 and 2009-10 school years.
The penalties, announced Wednesday by the NCAA, stem from a case involving two players, including the Sooners' starting quarterback, who were kicked off the team for being paid for work they had not performed at a Norman car dealership.
The Sooners went 8-4 and beat Oregon in the Holiday Bowl to end the 2005 season. Records from that season involving quarterback Rhett Bomar and offensive lineman J.D. Quinn must be vacated, the NCAA said, and coach Bob Stoops' career record will be amended to reflect the forfeitures, dropping it from 86-19 in eight seasons to 78-27.
Oklahoma also will have two years of probation added to an earlier penalty, extending the Sooners' probation to May 23, 2010. Those sanctions are in addition to those already self-imposed by Oklahoma, which has banned athletes from working at the car dealership until at least the 2008-09 academic year and has moved to prevent the athletes' supervisor at the dealership, Brad McRae, from being involved with the university's athletics program until at least August 2011.
Oklahoma also will reduce the number of football coaches who are allowed to recruit off campus this fall. The Sooners also dismissed Bomar, Quinn and walk-on Jermaine Hardison from the team.
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The NCAA are a bunch of Napoleonic power-mongers.
Unfortunately, the monetary rewards the NCAA receives from personnel who are not NCAA employees do not make it into the article.
WHAT!!! Oklahoma can`t pay football players? That`s un- AMERICAN, ain`t it?
Did you bother to read the article?
Golly, if I cheat on my taxes, can the IRS bill me back in 1975?
What a crock...then again so is college amature sports.
I know of a case in the 1980’s where a guy was a great QB. He signed with a college and his family got a new house.
So this is the precedent for players receiving payments while playing NCAA football?
If the NCAA were an organization of integrity, this would then mean USC would have to forfeit 2, if not 3 seasons. These Oklahoma guys took a total of like $20,000 (not all of that for work not done), Reggie Bush and family pocketed nearly $300,000 that we know of already.
But of course we also know the world isn’t fair and due to this or that issue (stemming from the fact Reggie Bush and/or others have paid everyone involved to refuse to cooperate with the NCAA), USC will walk away with no repercussions.
The bottom line: the NCAA has set a precedent that will take college football back to the old days - where there’s no sense in a school cooperating with the NCAA and being better off hiding everything or paying off witnesses.
As former OU player Brian Bosworth called them, the “National Communist Athletic Association.”
Wow, TWO whole scholarships? Thats going to leave a itsy bity mark.
Guess ol Bobby Stoops might be regretting turning down the best job in college football at the University of Florida?
If you ain’t cheating, you’re not trying.
Thanks for asking, yes I did read it.
Uh, yeah. And that happened 2 or 3 years ago at USC, with Reggie Bush's parents. But hey, that's kalefornia, so...
bttt
Most of these kids never make the Pro’s. Many never get a degree. These liberal academics use them and send them back to the ghetto.
Okay, did you COMPREHEND it? The Sooners found violations (of which they were unaware at the time) punished the players, informed the NCAA and now they’re being penalized for it. I don’t care how tight a ship you run, you’re always going to have idiot players taking money. If the school wasn’t involved, and if said violations had NOTHING to do with performance on the field, why punish the school?
It’s too bad for him that he didn’t play at FSU...
HOW MANY SEC STUDENTS DOES IT TAKE TO CHANGE A LIGHT BULB?
At VANDERBILT: it takes two, one to change the bulb and one more to explain how they did it every bit as good as the bulbs changed at Harvard.
At GEORGIA : it takes two, one to change the bulb and one to phone an engineer at Georgia Tech for instructions.
At FLORIDA : it takes four, one to screw in the bulb and three to figure out how to get stoned off the old one.
At ALABAMA : it takes five, one to change it, two to reminisce about how The Bear would have done it, and one to throw the old bulb at an NCAA investigator and one to throw the other old bulb at Fulmer.
At OLE MISS: it takes six, one to change it, two to mix the drinks and three to find the perfect J. Crew outfit to wear for the occasion.
At LSU: it takes seven, and each one gets credit for five semester hours.
At KENTUCKY : it takes eight, one to screw it in and seven to discuss how much brighter it seems to shine during basketball season.
At TENNESSEE : it takes ten, two to figure out how to screw it in, two to buy an orange lampshade, and six to phone a radio call-in show and talk about how much they hate Alabama .
At MISSISSIPPI STATE : it takes fifteen, one to screw in the bulb, two to buy the Skoal, and twelve to yell, “GO TO HELL, OLE MISS”.
At AUBURN : it takes one hundred, one to change it, forty-nine to talk about how they did it better than at Bama, and fifty to get drunk and roll Toomer’s Corner when finished.
At SOUTH CAROLINA : it takes 80,000, one to screw it in and 79,999 to discuss how this finally will be the year that they have a decent football team.
At ARKANSAS : None. There is no electricity in Arkansas.
PLANNING FOR THE FALL FOOTBALL SEASON
Planning for the fall football season in the South is radically different than up North. For those who are planning a football trip to the South, here are some helpful hints.
Women’s Accessories
NORTH: ChapStick in back pocket and a $20 bill in the front pocket.
SOUTH: Louis Vuitton duffel with two lipsticks, waterproof mascara, and a fifth of bourbon. Money not necessary - that’s what dates are for.
Stadium Size
NORTH: College football stadiums hold 20,000 people.
SOUTH: High school football stadiums hold 20,000 people.
Fathers
NORTH: Expect their daughters to understand Sylvia Plath.
SOUTH: Expect their daughters to understand pass interference.
Campus Decor
NORTH: Statues of founding fathers.
SOUTH: Statues of Heisman trophy winners.
Homecoming Queen
NORTH: Also a physics major.
SOUTH: Also Miss America.
Heroes
NORTH: Rudy Giuliani
SOUTH: Bear Bryant, Archie, Eli and Peyton Manning, Bo Jackson
Getting Tickets
NORTH: 5 days before the game you walk into the ticket office on campusand purchase tickets.
SOUTH: 5 months before the game you walk into the ticket office on campus and put name on waiting list for tickets.
Monday Classes After a Saturday Game
NORTH: Students and teachers not sure they’re going to the game, because they have to prepare for classes on Monday.
SOUTH: Teachers cancel Monday classes because they don’t want to see the few hung over students that might actually make it to class.
Parking
NORTH: An hour before game time, the University opens the campus for game parking.
SOUTH: RVs sporting their school flags begin arriving on Wednesday for the weekend festivities. The really faithful arrive on Tuesday.
Game Day
NORTH: A few students party in the dorm and watch ESPN on TV.
SOUTH: Every student wakes up, has a beer for breakfast, and rushes over to where ESPN is broadcasting “Game Day Live” to get on camera and wave to the idiots up north who wonder why “Game Day Live” is never broadcast from their campus.
Tailgating
NORTH: Raw meat on a grill, beer with lime in it, listening to local radio station with truck tailgate down.
SOUTH: 30-foot custom pig-shaped smoker fires up at dawn. Cooking accompanied by live performance by “Dave Matthews’ Band,” who come over during breaks and ask for a hit off bottle of bourbon.
Getting to the Stadium
NORTH: You ask “Where’s the stadium?” When you find it, you walk right in.
SOUTH: When you’re near it, you’ll hear it. On game day it becomes the state’s third largest city.
Concessions
NORTH: Drinks served in a paper cup, filled to the top with soda.
SOUTH: Drinks served in a plastic cup, with the home team’s mascot on it, filled less than half way with soda, to ensure enough room for bourbon.
When National Anthem is Played
NORTH! : Stands are less than half full, and less than half of them stand up.
SOUTH: 100,000 fans, all standing, sing along in perfect four-part harmony.
The Smell in the Air After the First Score
NORTH: Nothing changes.
SOUTH: Fireworks, with a touch of bourbon.
Commentary (Male)
NORTH: “Nice play.”
SOUTH: “Dammit, you slow sumbitch - tackle him and break his legs..”
Commentary (Female)
NORTH: “My, this certainly is a violent sport.”
SOUTH: “Dammit, you slow sumbitch tackle him and break his legs.”
Announcers
NORTH: Neutral and paid.
SOUTH: Announcer harmonizes with the crowd in the fight song, with a tear in his eye because he is so proud of his team.
After the Game
NORTH: The stadium is empty way before the game ends.
SOUTH: Another rack of ribs goes on the smoker, while somebody goes to the nearest package store for more bourbon, and planning begins for next week’s game.
Nothing else in the universe comes even halfway close to the glories of Southern football!
So, uh, it’s like the wins from the 2005 season never happened right? Those games simply never took place, they’ve vanished from the record books, or have apparently become losses. Just because the NCAA says so.
BS.
A number of years ago UMass lost its divisional basketball crown because of some nastiness involving Marcus Camby. Yet, does anyone really believe UMass “didn’t” have those wins.
Who is the NCAA trying to kid with this revisionist history? It’s laughable, and it cheapens the meaning of the sport to de facto “change results” even more so than does the “cheating.”
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