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1 posted on 07/09/2007 9:43:02 AM PDT by Froufrou
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Security begins AT THE BORDER! If they can’t get in....all else is moot!


2 posted on 07/09/2007 9:48:56 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: SwinneySwitch; JamesP81

New modus operandi ping...


3 posted on 07/09/2007 9:49:08 AM PDT by Froufrou
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Don’t tell me they don’t know how to fix this. People pay SS and taxes. Irs or SS can’t figure out something strange is going on when they are receiving money from two different states on the same day? They don’t see anything strange about a 1 week old building houses are a 96 y/o collecting SS and working full time in a factory?
4 posted on 07/09/2007 9:50:08 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Froufrou
This is not very difficult to detect by the Social Security Administration. The Social Security Administration already catches this happening, but refuses to do anything about it.

The renter then moves on to another city or another neighborhood so there is seldom any conflict between the two identities.

It's absurd to think that many people are going to rent out documents and keep moving around for a few hundred dollars.

If employers do a decent job attempting to verify that the documents match the bearer, and the SSA reports duplicate usage of SSNs, this becomes very difficult to do on more than a very small scale.

This isn't the huge hurdle that they are making it out to be. They just appear to be trying to make the argument that since this won't work, having secure IDs isn't worth doing.

There will always be a few people that find a way around any system, but just because a system can't catch 100% of offenders doesn't mean it's not effective.

7 posted on 07/09/2007 10:02:06 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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8 posted on 07/09/2007 10:04:50 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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This growing problem could cause serious complications for efforts to include a 'temper proof' i.d. card as part of immigration reform.

Oh, OK we will just give up then.

9 posted on 07/09/2007 10:05:24 AM PDT by WesternPacific
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"Exclusive: Document 'Rental' By Illegals Vexes Authorities [BOHICA]"

This widespread identity fraud means that a 'national security' identification card will be issued to every American soon, probably with our fingerprints or eye-scan on the card. It will be billed as the "only way" to stop the illegals' identity scams. I frankly believe that this is why Washington actually wants millions of illegals in our country, it creates an apparent 'necessity' for such a national ID card. Of course, a national ID card also gives the government more control over citizens, which is something that every government has been wont to do since Oooga, Booga, Umah and Duumass formed the very first human government. -

Anyway, we all know that a fence, a vigorously enforced fence, is the real answer to the illegal problem. But can we force those in Washington who seem to represent Mexico and South America more than US citizens to do this?

10 posted on 07/09/2007 10:06:58 AM PDT by gemma0000 (They obscure the truth by calling it an issue of "immigration"-but it's an issue of LAW ENFORCEMENT.)
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PHOTO Identification - IT WORKS.

At least is seems to when the local bar knows that the police are keeping an eye on them regarding serving underage patrons.


13 posted on 07/09/2007 10:48:50 AM PDT by Notwithstanding ("You are either with America in our time of need or you are not" - W? No, 'twas Sen. Hillary 9/12/01)
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1200 WOAI news has learned that a fast growing racket among illegal immigrants threatens to derail any effort to include a 'tamper proof identification card' into any part of an immigration reform plan.

Officials tell 1200 WOAI news that for between $200 and $800, an illegal immigrant can easily rent the legal documents of a legal U.S. resident.

THE TRUTH--->>>

This is a racket for illegal immigrants and legal immigrants. The legal immigrant is being paid for renting out his ID. Yet another case where low life legal immigrants (probably poor, uneducated, not English speaking) enable the illegals and make some extra cash too

15 posted on 07/09/2007 10:56:34 AM PDT by dennisw
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This scam has been going on for more than a generation. The fact it takes so long for it to surface shows that the government isn’t all that interested in finding a solution.


16 posted on 07/09/2007 11:03:55 AM PDT by Kevmo (We need to get away from the Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party ~Duncan Hunter)
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Combine some biometrics with a tamperproof card and then you avoid this problem.

Encode a retina scan check on the card, if a scan of the card holder doesn’t match the encoded scan on the card - deny entry.


17 posted on 07/09/2007 11:04:31 AM PDT by Wil H (So just what IS the Globe's optimum temperature?)
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It just ain’t that difficult. If an employer knowingly hires an illegal then he pays a $50,000 fine for each illegal. If an employee is caught with illegal documents then he goes to the pen for 5 years and is then deported. NO EXCEPTIONS, NO PROBATIONS, NO APPEALS.


18 posted on 07/09/2007 11:14:08 AM PDT by Bob Buchholz
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19 posted on 07/09/2007 11:14:29 AM PDT by gubamyster
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Uh, Mr. Smith, it says here you’re a Caucasian male?

Si`.....with a tan.

21 posted on 07/09/2007 11:29:36 AM PDT by wolfcreek (2 bad Tyranny, Treachery and Treason never take a vacation...)
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Pruneda says the employer would never have any reason to suspect fraud.

No but the SSA knows, and refuses to do anything about it. I guess they are willing to accept any form of income into the social welfare system.

22 posted on 07/09/2007 11:44:55 AM PDT by itsahoot (The GOP did nothing about immigration, immigration did something about the GOP (As Predicted))
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"It wasn't a fake Social Security number, it was a real Social Security number, it just didn't belong to that person," Pruneda says.

And because so many people are worried about misuse of personal data by the federal government, the federal government will not tell you if someone else is using your SSN. They won't tell you because telling you would violate your privacy rights that you wanted!

25 posted on 07/09/2007 11:59:07 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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Every technological “solution” is defeatable. What about just deporting people who: 1)are very brown and 2) speak Spanish.


26 posted on 07/09/2007 12:10:26 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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"We are constantly working with all different companies to make sure they have an idea of what to look out for,"

There they go again! Most of the "companies" don't want to know. When an imposter asks for $3 an hour instead of $20 and doesn't speak fairly good English, the employer knows what gives. Will they call ICE? Nope.

With the SS data bases, the IRS can catch them immediately when they get tax withholdings, on the same SS number, from two or more places far apart on the map!

Those people who are peddling excuses should be fired and replaced by people who can do the job.

Stop the f****** excuses and build the damn wall!

30 posted on 07/09/2007 12:30:18 PM PDT by melancholy (Quiz: name one country, other than the USA, that doesn't control its borders.)
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Again. This would be a lot less of a problem if we secured the bloody borders and kept them out in the first place.

This is nothing new of course. IMO, it is also being presented in an effort to convince us that we may as well give up because we can’t catch these people.

Well, we can’t catch all of them, but when we do we need to come down very hard. Deterrent is a principle that just seems to elude libs and government bureaucrats.

Beside, there are other ways to deter these people. Like making this country a lot less hospitable to illegals. English only in workplaces would be a good start. No more bilingual crap on the phone (press one...) and quit printing labels for every damn product I buy in spanish and english, with the SPANISH taking up MORE OF THE LABEL than english!

Quit giving free schooling to the children of illegals. Quit letting them into our state colleges. Forget this crapolla about what tuition to charge. Don’t let them in period.

When is the government going to figure out it’s not their country - it’s OURS.


31 posted on 07/09/2007 12:37:26 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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U.S. Constitution, Article 4 Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,

and shall protect each of them against Invasion;"


Invasion: \In*va"sion\, n. [L. invasio: cf. F. invasion. See Invade.] [1913 Webster]

1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass.


38 posted on 07/09/2007 2:30:36 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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