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Exclusive: Document 'Rental' By Illegals Vexes Authorities [BOHICA]
woai.com ^ | 07/08/09 | Jim Forsyth

Posted on 07/09/2007 9:43:01 AM PDT by Froufrou

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To: Froufrou
Uh, Mr. Smith, it says here you’re a Caucasian male?

Si`.....with a tan.

21 posted on 07/09/2007 11:29:36 AM PDT by wolfcreek (2 bad Tyranny, Treachery and Treason never take a vacation...)
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To: Froufrou
Pruneda says the employer would never have any reason to suspect fraud.

No but the SSA knows, and refuses to do anything about it. I guess they are willing to accept any form of income into the social welfare system.

22 posted on 07/09/2007 11:44:55 AM PDT by itsahoot (The GOP did nothing about immigration, immigration did something about the GOP (As Predicted))
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To: wolfcreek

LOL! When I was a teen my mom took me to Nuevo Laredo and they didn’t want to let me back in because of my tan!

The woes of being a brunette, however, are long gone for me!


23 posted on 07/09/2007 11:51:05 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: CindyDawg

Somehow by magic I guess VISA and Mastercharge can manage millions of accounts and billions of transactions per day fairly securely...too bad government can’t do the same...


24 posted on 07/09/2007 11:55:22 AM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: Froufrou
"It wasn't a fake Social Security number, it was a real Social Security number, it just didn't belong to that person," Pruneda says.

And because so many people are worried about misuse of personal data by the federal government, the federal government will not tell you if someone else is using your SSN. They won't tell you because telling you would violate your privacy rights that you wanted!

25 posted on 07/09/2007 11:59:07 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: Froufrou

Every technological “solution” is defeatable. What about just deporting people who: 1)are very brown and 2) speak Spanish.


26 posted on 07/09/2007 12:10:26 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: CindyDawg

Owe the IRS and see how quickly they can find you...


27 posted on 07/09/2007 12:11:10 PM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
"A fence won’t do anything about the illegals already here unless they leave the country."

Agreed, but it's one thing at a time, and first things first. You can bail out the water, (deport the illegals), from the boat all day, but if you don't plug the hole, (the border), the bailing will be futile. The water, (illegals), will just keep coming back in.

I also agree with you on the employment enforcement. Making it illegal for business to hire anyone without a green card, and rigidly enforcing it with big fines, is an enormously important step. It would probably begin a massive self-deportation of illegals.

28 posted on 07/09/2007 12:20:06 PM PDT by gemma0000 (They obscure the truth by calling it an issue of "immigration"-but it's an issue of LAW ENFORCEMENT.)
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To: doc30; Arthur McGowan

[/scratching head] When did it turn tables to where we the sheeple are being denied rights in order to be so p.c. in ‘helping those less fortunate?’

Doc, it pains me that I heard last week nurses “in support” of government-subsidized medice. I mean, what’s the deal? It’s not like anybody doesn’t KNOW what Canada and Britain are like!!!!


29 posted on 07/09/2007 12:21:42 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou
"We are constantly working with all different companies to make sure they have an idea of what to look out for,"

There they go again! Most of the "companies" don't want to know. When an imposter asks for $3 an hour instead of $20 and doesn't speak fairly good English, the employer knows what gives. Will they call ICE? Nope.

With the SS data bases, the IRS can catch them immediately when they get tax withholdings, on the same SS number, from two or more places far apart on the map!

Those people who are peddling excuses should be fired and replaced by people who can do the job.

Stop the f****** excuses and build the damn wall!

30 posted on 07/09/2007 12:30:18 PM PDT by melancholy (Quiz: name one country, other than the USA, that doesn't control its borders.)
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To: Froufrou

Again. This would be a lot less of a problem if we secured the bloody borders and kept them out in the first place.

This is nothing new of course. IMO, it is also being presented in an effort to convince us that we may as well give up because we can’t catch these people.

Well, we can’t catch all of them, but when we do we need to come down very hard. Deterrent is a principle that just seems to elude libs and government bureaucrats.

Beside, there are other ways to deter these people. Like making this country a lot less hospitable to illegals. English only in workplaces would be a good start. No more bilingual crap on the phone (press one...) and quit printing labels for every damn product I buy in spanish and english, with the SPANISH taking up MORE OF THE LABEL than english!

Quit giving free schooling to the children of illegals. Quit letting them into our state colleges. Forget this crapolla about what tuition to charge. Don’t let them in period.

When is the government going to figure out it’s not their country - it’s OURS.


31 posted on 07/09/2007 12:37:26 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: Froufrou

My Wife is always asked if I’m a Mexican (Irish,Welsh,American Indian) because I work and play outside. Must explain all those poeple coming up to me on the street and asking me questions in Spanish.


32 posted on 07/09/2007 12:41:53 PM PDT by wolfcreek (2 bad Tyranny, Treachery and Treason never take a vacation...)
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To: Froufrou

Is it nurses or nursing organizations? That is like saying all women belong to and are represented by NOW.


33 posted on 07/09/2007 1:13:32 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: melancholy; ChildOfThe60s; wolfcreek; CindyDawg

I agree. The TX GOP called for [yet another] donation and I said, “no more support until the borders are sealed.”

They tried to say the Democrats were behind this last legislation!!! I said, “let me remind you McCain co-authored that junk. No more support!”


34 posted on 07/09/2007 1:28:21 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: CindyDawg

I put mucho $$ across my credit card but don’t gamble. One day, out of the blue, I got a call from Master Card security asking about, IIRC, a $250 gambling charge at a casino and I told them it wasn’t mine. The card was instantly canceled and reissued. It’s uncanny how much credit card companies actually know about each of us and our habits.

Another example is travel. In the last four years I’ve made two round trip auto trips to California from Knoxville, TN without any questions from the relevant credit card company, even though I put almost all of the costs for each trip on the card. My surprise came when I looked at each statement; it was possible to take a map, use the credit card statement, and accurately track wherever I had been and when.


35 posted on 07/09/2007 1:37:11 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: Don Corleone

Demand a border fence! Build it NOW!! Beef up the border patrol and close our borders!

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36 posted on 07/09/2007 1:53:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Indianhead Division: Second To None!)
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To: gemma0000

>>I also agree with you on the employment enforcement. Making it illegal for business to hire anyone without a green card, and rigidly enforcing it with big fines, is an enormously important step. It would probably begin a massive self-deportation of illegals.<<

I agree, but forgers are making green cards, drivers licences, etc. so realistic that employers can’t detect them as forgeries. Suppose I am an employer and a guy with a dark complexion walks in, I check his Ids and they look OK. Are you going to put me in prison because I couldn’t tell that the guy’s green card was forged? Or “borrowed?”

If I just failed to check the ID, that’s different. I deserve at least a fine for negligence.

I think a big part of the problem is that Bush and Chertoff have been unwilling to demand better IDs and employer enforcement laws. They wanted to roll those proposals in with amnesty.

I don’t think the problem is that we “can’t” enforce employment of illegals, but too many of our “leaders” do not want to do what it takes.


37 posted on 07/09/2007 1:55:57 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Illegals: representation without taxation--Citizens: taxation without representation)
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To: Froufrou
U.S. Constitution, Article 4 Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,

and shall protect each of them against Invasion;"


Invasion: \In*va"sion\, n. [L. invasio: cf. F. invasion. See Invade.] [1913 Webster]

1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass.


38 posted on 07/09/2007 2:30:36 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: libstripper

I don’t use credit cards that much for that reason. I got a call once from my husband while I was traveling. He told me I had spent enough at Oskosh on my grandkids and that I didn’t need that candy that I just bought at the candy store and that I needed to get on the road so I could be at my hotel before dark.


39 posted on 07/09/2007 4:09:07 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Froufrou

The use of bad documents is rampant because when illegals are caught making/selling/using bad documents at best they get a slap on the wrist. It is another example of how lack of enforcing laws will cause the problem to escalate.


40 posted on 07/09/2007 5:43:32 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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