Posted on 07/08/2007 11:04:40 AM PDT by DogByte6RER
Scouts' firing range irks residents
Neighbors say clay shooting events disruptive
By Ivan Moreno, Rocky Mountain News
July 7, 2007
ELBERT - Neighbors say the Peaceful Valley Scout Ranch is anything but that. The realization came after an explosion of shotgun blasts from the camp in May, when Boy Scouts held a two-day clay shooting fundraiser.
"It sounded like Hamas had a training camp next door," said Elbert County Sheriff William Frangis, who fielded numerous calls from people who live near the ranch.
The Scouts say no one complained to them.
Although the camp has had a shooting range for rifles and shotguns for years, noise has not been an issue until now.
Neighbors say part of their frustration is that the Scouts only notified them of the event with the sound of the guns, and they never applied for permit from the county.
"They didn't talk to anyone; they just did it," said 75- year-old John Dunn, a former Elbert County commissioner and 44-year county resident who lives about a quarter mile from the Scout camp.
"The noise was unbelievable," Dunn said, adding that it was enough to scare the elk, deer, and birds in the vicinity. "We haven't seen them since."
The Scouts have planned five more fundraising events from July through August, but they're waiting for a permit from the county commissioners to continue using the clay shooting range. The commissioners will hear their case Wednesday.
But while there's a cease-fire for now, residents fear more events like the one held May 19 and 20 will not only disturb their peace but will bring down the value of their properties.
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Here is one for the scout list.
Busy bodies trying to make trouble they must have very good ears to hear shotguns from that far away.
Yeah, El Torro in these parts closed down.
Also that base up by the Bay area. Don’t remember the name.
But the important thing is to start to turn around the stifling un-American, dingy dumbing down and politically correct WHINING which has made so incredible inroads on what used to be a country of optimistic individualists.
Sheesh. I’m getting so tired of leftwingers telling everyone what to do.
I’d like to go dump some tea in San Francisco harbor.
***Although the camp has had a shooting range for rifles and shotguns for years, noise has not been an issue until now.***
Sounds like people who just moved in and now want the “old-timers” to change their lives to suit them.
It’s going on all the time all over the country. Let them sue the developers who did not apprise them of the noise, or better yet, Caveat emptor should apply.
Which base was that? Moffett Field Naval Air Station? Hunters Point Naval Shipyard? Alameda Island NAS, where the carriers also docked? Presido of San Francisco? Perhaps south of SF Bay, Fort Ord? Two Air Force bases were closed near Sacramento.
Yes, Presidio, that’s the one I was thinking of.
Thanks.
There should be a Ping Merit Badge.
Who was there first?
These pissheaded freaks ARE the enemy our nation needs to be defended against.
If you make that 20 tons of Rice-A-Roni ("The San Francisco Treat") I'll join you.
You left out Hamilton Field, in Marin County.
Also, Naval Station Treasure Island ...where I did my Basic.
Big chunks of Concord Naval Weapons Station...if not all of it by now.
Where's that? I went to Camp Bedford, a long time ago.
WWW
The Sheriff speaks like a kitten.
It doesn't work that way. Almost all communities have laws on the books dealing with noise in residential neighborhoods. If the shooting range is in violation of those ordinances, then it's at fault and it doesn't matter who was there first. That's just life.
When I was a kid, we used to race motocross at a track located East of Colorado Springs. When the city grew Eastward, and the noise bothered those in new developments, the track had to close. That's just the way it works.
...and the nice neighbors can be tested for the whining merit badge, but then on second thought, they wouldn’t be “merit” badgers then would they?
BTTT
BINGO: Old Mountain Coloradans wouldn’t give a d*mn if the Boy Scouts held a shoot-out; heck many of them probably would have kids or their friends in the contests..I know I have grandparents cousins in Den, the near Evergreen, Montrose, and grew up there untill I was 8 y/old!
Sporting clays shotguns do not sound like a “Hamas training camp.” Even 100 yards away, it is just a muffled pop.
These neighbors just want to close down the range for political purposes. They hate guns and they hate the Boy Scouts.
FMCDH(BITS)
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