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Restoring Limits To Borrow And Spend (State Court Slaps Down Arnold's Borrow And Spend Gambit Alert)
Orange County Register ^ | 07/08/2007 | Orange County Register Editorial Board

Posted on 07/08/2007 8:30:23 AM PDT by goldstategop

Why did the governor push ahead an appeal of the trial court's decision, even though he removed the potential savings from his budget? Our only conclusion is that the administration wanted to create a precedent that would eviscerate taxpayer protections for bond spending. Had the state won the case on appeal, virtually any debt run up by the government (for schools, government salaries, pensions, etc.) could be determined a legal obligation, and then those costs could be offloaded to future taxpayers and kept off the annual budget books.

State legislators and this governor love to spend money. They love to make unsustainable promises to government unions and other interest groups. They know they can't easily raise taxes to cover their new promises, so they try to float bonds. Fortunately, the state courts have ruled that constitutional restrictions on reckless debt spending still apply – despite this spendthrift administration's arguments to the contrary.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: California
KEYWORDS: arnold; borrowandspend; california; liberalism; ocregister; rino; spendthrift
A California state appeals court slapped down Arnold's borrow and spend gambit.The state is drunk on spending the public's money. Without a limit, future generations will be burdened by even more debt.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

1 posted on 07/08/2007 8:30:25 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

If I recall corectly, in California government pensions are already a legal obligation for the state.


2 posted on 07/08/2007 8:31:49 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: goldstategop

“Fortunately, the state courts have ruled that constitutional restrictions on reckless debt spending still apply – despite this spendthrift administration’s arguments to the contrary.”

I think we can all agree that Arnold’s claim that he’s a fiscal conservative turned out to be a lie. But I am surprised that the courts have given him a red light. Maybe not so surprising, in light of the fact that he’s a Republican. You can bet that if Davis were still governor, the courts would just rubber stamp his policy.


3 posted on 07/08/2007 8:33:25 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant
Gray Davis never spent as much money as his successor. Arnold has revealed himself to be a Kennedy with muscles. There is NO evidence to support the contention he ever believed in fiscal probity or in conservatism. He's so far to the Left he makes the Democrats look moderate.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

4 posted on 07/08/2007 8:37:57 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Why bust Arnie’s chops? California has been taking long term debt to pay current expenses for over twenty years. Sure, it’s economically unsound, but no different from Bush cutting taxes while increasing spending. And don’t tell me the increased revenue covered the debt generated, because it didn’t.


5 posted on 07/08/2007 8:40:59 AM PDT by gcruse
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California spends more money than it takes in revenue. The party's been going hard because until now, the state could put it all on the credit card. At some point, the free ride will come to an end.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

6 posted on 07/08/2007 8:43:08 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Unfortunately, California has no mint. They can’t print their way to ‘prosperity.’ LOL


7 posted on 07/08/2007 8:47:07 AM PDT by gcruse
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California can't print money. All it can do is borrow it and its borrowed a lot of money - which would have been unnecessary had the politicians made responsible budget choices. Removing the limit would have just allowed them to put more spending on the credit card. Its a form of hidden tax increase and people do pay for it. Nothing in life, especially government, is free.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

8 posted on 07/08/2007 8:53:18 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Your right Arnold is just another Kennedy- republican, we saw a few of those in the illegal immigration bill as well..


9 posted on 07/08/2007 10:09:55 AM PDT by JoanneSD (Illegals represented without taxation.. Citizens taxed without representation)
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To: BenLurkin
If I recall corectly, in California government pensions are already a legal obligation for the state.

At least the state won't be able to, de facto, engage in deficit spending to cover those obligations, thereby kicking the problem down the road. They'll have to be handled in the budget. Maybe with a little present-day pain involved, the legislature might think twice about signing up for any additional benefit enhancements.

10 posted on 07/08/2007 10:55:52 AM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: gcruse

(but no different from Bush cutting taxes while increasing spending. And don’t tell me the increased revenue covered the debt generated, because it didn’t.)

I disagree with half of your argument. Cutting taxes made the economy improve and did increase the level of revenues to the Treasury (both the cuts in marginal tax rates and the capital gains tax cut). The extra spending is a problem and it cannot all be explained by the war. Both Bush and Congress did increase spending like drunken sailors. The difference is that the federal government is not required to have a balanced budget. Despite all this, the deficit is actually shrinking. Of course, if you honestly look at the real obligations and therefore include Social Security and Medicare, then you got a real problem, one that has to be solved eventually.

In summary, cutting taxes did increase revenues. The problem is the spending.


11 posted on 07/08/2007 11:04:48 AM PDT by winner3000
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To: winner3000

Yup. That’s what I thought I said.


12 posted on 07/08/2007 11:13:14 AM PDT by gcruse
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To: Brilliant
I think we can all agree that Arnold’s claim that he’s a fiscal conservative turned out to be a lie.

It sure did. He's a Kennedy. Sorry, already been said lol.

His first act as Governor was to make us (taxpayers) pay 5 Billion Dollars for Fetal Stem Cell Research. Which will cost 10 Billion by the time the bonds are paid off. What an obscene waste of money and babies.

13 posted on 07/08/2007 12:15:51 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: goldstategop

I have read that California might not gain any Congressional districts after the 2010 census. If so, foolishness like this is one of the reasons why.


14 posted on 07/08/2007 2:17:08 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Open borders and outsourcing are opposite sides of the same coin)
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