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Why Britain and not the U.S.?
The Seattle Times ^ | Saturday, July 7, 2007 | By Matthew Schofield

Posted on 07/07/2007 7:24:53 AM PDT by CGblue

Why Britain and not the U.S.?

By Matthew Schofield McClatchy Newspapers

LONDON — From the moment that emergency workers spotted the bomb-laden car a week ago in London's crowded West End, it was clear that for the fourth straight year — and third straight summer — this city was being readied for a major terrorist attack.

Yet England isn't the Great Satan to al-Qaida extremists. Terrorism experts all agree that for al-Qaida operatives and sympathizers, the preferred villain is the United States.

So why do attacks keep happening here? And why, since the horror of Sept. 11, has America avoided another assault?

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaida; britain; enemywithin; globaljihad; infiltration; internet; islam; jihad; muhammadsminions; terrorism; waronislamism
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To: AliVeritas
"The Islamic population in the United States is better assimilated into the general population, whereas here, in Germany, in France, they're very much on the outside looking in," he said. "When people get disaffected, sadly, there's not much loyalty to country in that sort of situation."

This is FALSE information - Completely Untrue

Allow me to explain - the United States is not seen what is in the pipeline yet - in another 4-5 years we will start to see the fruits of our appeasement.

First is the numbers - percentage of the population - later you are going to be able to apply a percentage in the future of radicalization and of those who don't assimilate.

Second is the stage or level of their cultural assimilation in the United States - here is a graphic that I use:

And then next we have the stages of assimilation - This is Very Important

There are some items concerning this graphic that need to be understood - It is important to understand that the stage or level of an immigrant's "potential assimilation" is dependent on numerous variables. I will list a few:

The countries overall immigration policy - "melting" pot vs. "salad bowl" - needless to say, the "salad bowl" approach has a major affect on the assimilation of the individual and may delay their potential integration by several years or not at all if the immigrant is encouraged to remain in ethnic enclaves - it also has a high risk of alienating immigrants ie."radicalization"

Ethnic and Racial enclaves - where they are settled - if the immigrant is "settled in mass" with many of his own people nearby - then this also delays integration - the immigrant will choose the path of least resistance - he will continue to speak his own language rather that learn and speak English etc.

Another factor to consider is how the host country responds to the demands of the immigrants. Does our own actions and policies encourage coping strategies or reactive responses?

Building foot basins in airports and universities - and kowtowing to their demands in the name of tolerance does NOT encourage coping strategies - as you can see it encourages alienation, isolation and eventually radicalization

Further you might notice that there is no time frame listed - the potential assimilation can take as little as 6 or 7 years or may never happen - and the USA needs to understand that and be prepared for the consequences to come.

My own assimilation overseas took over 10 years and at times it was absolute hell - but Im not living in a place where the government or people fell over backwards trying to make my stay enjoyable - I was forced to adopt coping strategies - and that is what made the situation easier for me.

We have 7,000 Iraqis now on their way to the United States - many of these Iraqis will be settled in Michigan which has a high percentage of Muslims - needless to say, we are in many ways encouraging them to not assimilate and integrate - we give a mixed message - one that leads the immigrant to criticize, rationalize and eventually withdraw.

I have several posts on my blog that cover this subject - in the section "Submission and Subjugation".

My latest is here - One Last Drink of Hemlock

Another good one is here - America - Eyes Wide Shut On Muslim Integration

41 posted on 07/07/2007 8:24:29 AM PDT by expatguy (Support - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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To: Lazamataz
Laz - I am so disappointed in you.

I was sure you would have posted a "Space Bar" scene from Star wars by now.

My HTML skills are nil, so I was hoping you'd jump on it.

42 posted on 07/07/2007 8:25:33 AM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: AliVeritas

I am just guessing, but I suspect it has a lot to do with the accommodations our two different nations have made to their most prominent immigrant groups.

Our two governments have made implicit decisions to cater and kowtow to two different groups. In our case - to illegal Mexicans, in their case - legal muslims. Why? Perhaps because neither of our countries are repopulating to the satisfaction of these imperious bastards. They don’t deign to explain their defacto decisions to us Plebes.

Muslims in England are actively trying to muscle arm the UK into accepting their Sharia law. They wouldn’t have a prayer of having their way here, since that spot has already been taken by Mexicans mass-infiltrating the US, aided and abetted by traitorously self-serving ‘Rat politicos and a would-be Royal and his RINO running dogs.

At least we can point and laugh at the UK, “Ha ha - our illegals are marginally less hostile to our culture than your legals are to yours.”

Future historians will have a hard time explaining this Twilight Zone era, since they always assume rationality and sanity in the motives and decisions of nation-states.


43 posted on 07/07/2007 8:27:32 AM PDT by guitfiddlist (When the 'Rats break out switchblades, it's no time to invoke Robert's Rules.)
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To: gcruse

Believe me.....its not an original...a LOT of us sickos’s out there...we seem to hang out in the same places...weird..

:)


44 posted on 07/07/2007 8:27:45 AM PDT by halfright (How come you never see any Suicide Mullah's?)
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To: himno hero

Type your message out in word first, then cut and paste to FR. That way you can use your tab key. It probably will be easier than hitting all those dots over and over. I think there’s even a way to program your tab key for number of spaces it jumps everytime you hit it.

But...back to the subject of this thread. The reason the muslims are more bold in the UK than in USA is simple. They are a very large minority in the UK and are excluded from the top rungs of the economy there. The UK is a very exclusive society. This breeds social unrest. The irish catholics bomb more often than the muslims do in the UK, yet we think of that as normal.

In america, there’s no need to bomb. They get what they want simply by working hard and making alot of money, and then crying to the media if that’s not enough. The american media will give them any attention they ask for without bombings. Maybe if we didn’t have a large minority of poor mexicans, the muslims in america would feel less happy about their situation and become more bold with bombs. As it stands, muslims in america are near the top in the social pecking order of ethnicity...probably above certain white immigrants, like russians for example. In the UK, they are at the bottom AND have impressive numbers.


45 posted on 07/07/2007 8:27:48 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Lazamataz

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46 posted on 07/07/2007 8:28:37 AM PDT by gcruse
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To: Lazamataz; himno hero
I...actually...like...your...writing...style...it’s...much...more...deliberate...and...measured... I...think...I...will...adopt...it...as...my...own.

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47 posted on 07/07/2007 8:30:35 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: AliVeritas
And, of course, the attacks last weekend, in which police found and deactivated two car bombs before two men in a flaming Jeep Cherokee loaded with gas and gasoline canisters smashed into the airport check-in area in Glasgow, Scotland.

The police were clueless in both attacks. The car bombs outside the nightclub were not discovered by the police, and the Jeep Cherokee crashed into the airport without any restraint from the police. - tom

48 posted on 07/07/2007 8:30:43 AM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: No Truce With Kings
You go to any nation in Europe and remain a foreigner.

I think that has a lot to do with it. I met a Chinese woman married to a German. She said she wanted to stay in the States because here she could be an American and not a Chinese person in Germany. She felt that she would never be considered German and would always be looked at differently, no matter how long she lived over there and despite being married to a German, whereas here she could blend in.

49 posted on 07/07/2007 8:32:32 AM PDT by radiohead
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To: halfright

Come to think...of it...this is how Bush...and Christopher ...Walken talk.


50 posted on 07/07/2007 8:37:45 AM PDT by gcruse
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"So why do attacks keep happening here [Britain]? And why, since the horror of Sept. 11, has America avoided another assault?"

Easy. We have GBush. They don't.

51 posted on 07/07/2007 8:48:05 AM PDT by LEARNED FOREVER
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To: All
Why?

Any attack would weaken the chance for a Democrat to be elected president.

Radical Muslims know that attacks while there is a Democrat president would be met by the president filing a police report with the local police department.

There would never be a "Shock and awe" military counter attack in response. It would simply be, "Aw, shucks."

52 posted on 07/07/2007 8:55:20 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: barb-tex

Maybe because they did not come here to immigrate and assimulate. They came here to attack and kill Americans.


53 posted on 07/07/2007 8:56:03 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: gcruse

I don’t understand why everyone is saying theres been no attack on the US soil since 9/11. I thought they tried a few times already, but were stopped but they were never given huge media coverage so everyone still think they haven’t tried yet


54 posted on 07/07/2007 9:03:59 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
I think you're right.

While GWB's open borders have probably exacerbated the situation for the next President, his actions after 9/11 have probably helped significantly to deter further attacks while he is in office. Further attacks while he is President will result in regime change in Iran and/or Syria, they know it and we know it (a little Rush lingo there). But we can look for all hell to break loose 15 minutes after Hillary takes office. Some of it may come from terrorist.

55 posted on 07/07/2007 9:07:05 AM PDT by fewz
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To: himno hero

My (expensive) ergonomic keyboard hit the dust but on its way out it kept losing the capacity to strike more and more keys. I had to, finally, switch to an old style keyboard, so I know what you’re going through.

You can also use the ENTER key to create a line break.


56 posted on 07/07/2007 9:12:25 AM PDT by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus)
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To: No Truce With Kings

57 posted on 07/07/2007 9:12:37 AM PDT by Gritty (In the wake of 9/11 the citizens of the UK never accepted it as their war. They still don't-Mk Steyn)
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To: 4rcane

“I don’t understand why everyone is saying theres been no attack on the US soil since 9/11. I thought they tried a few times already, but were stopped”

If an attack is stopped before it starts, is it an attack?
All I know is I’ve never been ticketed for attempted speeding.


58 posted on 07/07/2007 9:12:44 AM PDT by gcruse
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To: AliVeritas

Why Britain and not here?

Because they are afraid of the reaction of the U.S. if another major attack occurs.

They have admitted they didn’t anticipate our reaction in going into Afghanistan and Iraq.

Everyone in the world knows we are agressive and crazy cowboys where there are more guns than people.

We have proved we are dangerously unpredictable when aroused.


59 posted on 07/07/2007 9:13:27 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: fewz

” Further attacks while he is President will result in regime change in Iran and/or Syria,’

Keep telling yourself that. He didn’t even get a declaration of war from Congress after 9/11.


60 posted on 07/07/2007 9:14:58 AM PDT by gcruse
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