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1 posted on 07/06/2007 7:14:48 PM PDT by monomaniac
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To: monomaniac

That is just sickning.


2 posted on 07/06/2007 7:24:49 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: monomaniac

If true, it’s 1st degree murder.


4 posted on 07/06/2007 7:34:27 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: monomaniac
Don’t get an organ donor sticker on your drivers license. You can always put it in your will. If you have the sticker on your license and show it as ID when you go in for any medical procedure the registration people will note it and mark you as an organ donor.

My wife is a very highly trained, respected, and multi-certified RN of 30 years experience. She had the sticker on her license until about 5 years ago and then one day said she had seen enough “poor” medicine and admin issues in the hospital and took it off.

I know, and her will states she will donate her organs if she is brain and heart dead. But she doesn’t want anyone but her, me, or her survivors to know. Certainly not hospital personnel who may be working to save her life one day.

5 posted on 07/06/2007 7:37:26 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: monomaniac

Ah the greed of money rears its ugly head again.


7 posted on 07/06/2007 7:42:03 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: monomaniac

This is a very good reason not to sign an organ donor card. Doctors who see nothing wrong with abortions (and, astonishingly, some even perform them) cannot be trusted with any life. I always knew it was coming to something like this.


8 posted on 07/06/2007 7:52:32 PM PDT by ducdriver ("Impartiality is a pompous name for indifference, which is an elegant name for ignorance." GKC)
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"There is nothing that can be done for your son. He is going to die." Nothing can be done for anyone, for we all are going to die. It's just a matter of when and how.
9 posted on 07/06/2007 7:55:33 PM PDT by ducdriver ("Impartiality is a pompous name for indifference, which is an elegant name for ignorance." GKC)
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To: monomaniac

Even if this isn’t true, the fact that it’s believable is sickening.


10 posted on 07/06/2007 7:57:23 PM PDT by ducdriver ("Impartiality is a pompous name for indifference, which is an elegant name for ignorance." GKC)
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Lifesite.net? Doesn’t sound like a particularly reliable source, and the story appears to have been hugely exaggerated if not downright fabricated. “But I know it’s true ‘cause I read it on the net.”


12 posted on 07/06/2007 9:40:44 PM PDT by Spyder
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When my best friend’s son was in a tragic car accident with a brain injury from which he would not survive, my friend decided to donate his organs (which were not affected at all by the accident). The doctors told us that unless he was certified brain dead by two independent physicians that could not happen. The action of “pulling the plug” on the respirator did not leave him as a candidate for harvesting as we did not know how long he would survive without help breathing—two hours, two days??? The transplant team must be summoned while the patient is on life support AND brain dead. Tragically (and fortunately) she did not have to make the decision to end life support as he went brain dead a few hours later. At that point the respirator was dialed down and he was kept alive until the transplant doctors from all over the country could be summoned. They all need to be there at the same time to harvest and take the necessary arteries and such as needed to place in the specific recipient.

All this is probably more than most of you wanted to know about the harvesting of organs but it gave the family some solace to know that their beloved son did not live and die for no reason—many others live on because of all that they gave.

This article is so far off base that it should be taken down from FR. A patient with a genetic disease, given high doses of morphine and then harvested??? Doesn’t make any sense.


19 posted on 07/06/2007 11:09:34 PM PDT by kmiller1k (remain calm)
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To: monomaniac

Like a stolen car in a chop shop, humans are worth more for their parts than as a whole.


22 posted on 07/07/2007 6:16:02 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Without the fence, deporting illegals is like shoveling water.)
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Ping....


23 posted on 07/07/2007 6:29:06 AM PDT by TheSarce ("America is NOT what's wrong with this world." --Donald Rumsfeld)
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To: monomaniac

This sort of thing has been going on for years, and will only get worse. It’s been going on quietly, and is a big money business. There are plenty of books published about this topic, check them out.


26 posted on 07/07/2007 5:59:18 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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Suit claims no consent to end of life: Mother says she never allowed Sierra Vista hospital officials to take son off life support

http://gr.acr.org/acr?action=viewNewsArticle&documentId=2c9e4f69139075440113922bac560083


27 posted on 07/09/2007 7:27:53 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: monomaniac

Of course we have no idea yet whether it’s true.


29 posted on 07/09/2007 7:36:53 AM PDT by gracesdad
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“As Shea explained, people can be brought back to life even fifteen minutes after their heart has stopped beating.”

Never say never, but I’d have to think this would be EXTREMELY rare. Four or so minutes is usually considered the outside for brain damage and seven minutes for severe brain damage. Reality is that only a small percentage survive cardiac arrest, even with immediate help.


33 posted on 07/09/2007 7:49:19 AM PDT by gracesdad
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