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Employers feel heat on immigration
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | July 5, 2007 | Faye Bowers

Posted on 07/04/2007 3:47:22 PM PDT by Dubya

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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance; Guenevere; Regulator

LOL, I called him Heywood again. Make that JD Hayworth!

Is anyone old enough to remember pre-Rush when Bill Heywood was the only talk radio in Phoenix worth listening to? He wasn’t even conservative but he did news and chat in the morning.


41 posted on 07/04/2007 6:08:06 PM PDT by donna (Kick me. I'm a citizen!)
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To: sgtbono2002
Maybe you didnt read it right. It says the first time they get suspension, the second time they dont have a business any more. What fine can be worse than closing you down,putting you out of business.

Putting their business and primary residence in a lottery for a buck.

42 posted on 07/04/2007 6:10:13 PM PDT by JoinJuniorAchievement (“Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there.")
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To: Guenevere

You’re worse at his name than I am, LOL.


43 posted on 07/04/2007 6:10:19 PM PDT by donna (Kick me. I'm a citizen!)
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To: Dubya
Bravo! I'm all for free enterprise but I don't want to subsidize the costs of employers breaking the law. If they break the law, they should foot the bill - and be shut down.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

44 posted on 07/04/2007 6:11:09 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Dubya

I wish NM would crack down on them. Since there’s so much publicity in AZ, they have started entering through NM. Thanks to our Mexican governor, he’s given them a blanket invitation to come into NM and he’s giving them a NM driver’s license! With that, the doors to the country are opened. Write letters to Bill Richardson, Governor of the State of NM and tell him what you think about him. LOL Oh, man. He’d die if he got a lot of letters. ;o)


45 posted on 07/04/2007 6:48:03 PM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: Dubya

This article won’t post (copyright infringement). It is an excellent read. The illegals are already planning on getting outta ‘Dodge’ (Arizona) since the ‘lovely’ Governor signed this bill. But, they aren’t going home to Mexico - they are going to other states.

One good point the article makes, is something I have been pushing for - for a long time: putting prisoners to work on jobs that can’t find workers. Put them on a chain gang, and let them pay for their ‘room and board’!

Click here:

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/0704immig0704.html


46 posted on 07/04/2007 7:12:29 PM PDT by yorkie
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To: yorkie; donna; Guenevere; riri
One good point the article makes, is something I have been pushing for - for a long time: putting prisoners to work on jobs that can’t find workers

Arizona isn't going to have a hard time finding construction workers.

All through the early '70s, thousands of young people moved to Arizona from the East coast for those jobs, since the WWII generation was still occupying the factory jobs back there. I met a lot of those guys working construction in Tucson during the summers.

And there were plenty of kids from the mid-West who came out and still come out to go to school at the UofA, ASU, and NAU. There were probably more co-eds from Illinois getting a tan in Tempe than there were from Arizona back then. Maybe now, I don't know. But they will be looking for jobs too.

And there's lots of unemployment - or under-employment - in the East due to the insane trade policies of this and prior administrations, and a lot of people are still looking to get out of the snow.

There won't be any labor shortage. And the Boyz in Florence will just have to do their time.

47 posted on 07/04/2007 7:34:26 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Regulator

At least 18 states have enacted laws concerning illegal immigrants. Most of the legislation is seen as punitive, and it reflects legislators’ anger at the federal government’s inability to seal the southern border and at provisions in the Senate bill that would allow the 12 million illegal immigrants already here a path to citizenship.

Arizona proposal would let police ask people they arrest about their citizenship status and seize them if they cannot produce proper documents. Arizona Rep. Russell Pearce (R) said Bush’s support of the guest-worker provision in the Senate bill “made me sick.” He called it “a sellout of America” and said: “I’m more than frustrated. I will do everything I can to unelect folks who sell out America.”

Idaho—Similar measures to Oklahoma are being considered

Maryland lawmakers defeated a proposal that would have let illegal immigrants pay in-state college tuition. Lawmakers are still considering a measure that would place a 5 percent surcharge on wire transfers to Mexico.

Michigan, lawmakers considered stripping health and welfare benefits from undocumented immigrants.

Missouri Sen. Chris Koster, a Republican, said that when he tried to push a law through the GOP-controlled chamber that would force employers to verify the status of workers, his colleagues defeated it handily, expressing concern about its impact on business.

Nebraska — Similar measures to Oklahoma are being considered

North Carolina growers need immigrant workers in order to thrive, but passing legislation friendly to illegal immigrants is difficult.

Oklahoma, Taxpayer and Citizen Protection Act, signed by Gov. Brad Henry (D) last month, restricts illegal immigrants’ access to all forms of official identification, bars them from receiving public assistance and metes out stiff fines to employers who hire them. “Illegal immigrants will not come to Oklahoma if there are no jobs waiting for them,” said state Rep. Randy Terrill (R), who wrote his state’s law, one of the most sweeping in the country.

Oregon, where a House bill would prohibit the state from hiring undocumented workers, said its core supporters are upset by the U.S. Senate bill. “We don’t support amnesty,” said spokesman Shawn Cleave, echoing the position of the North Carolina Republican Party, which proudly said it broke with Bush on the issue.

Pennsylvania, other measures — “so many, like seven,” he said — go after employers who hire illegal immigrants and deny the immigrants themselves benefits and other services.

Virginia, House of Delegates, approved a far-reaching proposal to strip charities and other organizations of state and local funding if any of the money is used to provide services to immigrants who are in the country illegally.


48 posted on 07/04/2007 8:10:09 PM PDT by Buzzm1
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To: WWTD

Wait until she actually enforces the law before you get too excited.

She might be as reliable as Bush has been on the border fence construction.


49 posted on 07/04/2007 8:16:42 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Dubya

How do they verify this?


50 posted on 07/04/2007 8:51:15 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (Fred Thompson....IMWITHFRED.COM)
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To: Right-wing Librarian

Yeppers

Who wouldnt vote for milk money for poor children?

and a little AMNESTY Amendment tacked onto that...

Who wouldnt vote for college help for the children of US servicemen killed in Iraq?

and a little college for illegal aliens Amendment tacked onto that...

etc etc..


51 posted on 07/04/2007 9:03:56 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: CaptainK

The bill will become law after Jan. 1, 2008. The illegals are already looking for another state. I agree with the above poster who posted that states are now cutting out the free benefits to those who cannot prove that they are here legally. THAT will be a big deterrent to them, as they want everything free they can get - so their families in Mexico will get more money from them on payday.


52 posted on 07/04/2007 9:08:11 PM PDT by yorkie
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To: CaptainK

Perhaps she’s just waiting for a judge to overturn it. However, there is a possibility that she’s for this law. For example, one of the senators who opposed Bush’s shamnesty bill was Senator Claire McCaskill, Democrat from Missouri. She was actually of the opinion that the employers of illegal aliens should be prosecuted. And it is a fact that prosecutions of illegal employers were far more common in the Clinton justice department than in Bush’s.

The libs are for illegal immigration because they want more Dem voters and an expansion of the welfare state. Unlike the Republicans, however, they are not nearly as interested in protecting employers of illegal aliens. Cracking down of businesses over this might be one area where those of us who oppose illegal immigration can actually find more friends on the Dem side than with the Republicans.

If you want to get rid of prostitution, you start arresting the Johns. One way to get rid of illegal aliens is to prosecute those Americans who hire them.


53 posted on 07/04/2007 9:09:04 PM PDT by WWTD
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To: Dubya

Demand a border fence! Build it NOW!! Beef up the border patrol and close our borders!

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54 posted on 07/04/2007 11:19:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Indianhead Division: Second To None!)
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To: Dubya

This Hispanic columnist is forcasting doom and gloom for her pals now that local police are beginning to take an active role in immigration law enforcement.


Beginning of the end?

(http://www.suntimes.com/news/cepeda/456872,cepea070507.article)

July 5, 2007

BY ESTHER J. CEPEDA

The U.S. Senate has endorsed what John McCain called “silent amnesty,” but things are no longer silent.

Towns across the country are so intent on controlling illegal immigration in their backyards, they’re taking matters into their own hands.

Take Panama City Beach, Fla., where the cops have taken to pulling up to construction sites with sirens blaring, chasing down and arresting those who run. I guess the regard for basic human dignity doesn’t apply there.

The sheriff has proven it’s OK to terrorize certain community members, so how long until the first lynching? How long until it’s commonplace for Hispanic immigrants to be murdered in the name of immigration law enforcement while neighbors cluck, “But they were illegal”?

Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that, but when it does, the blood will be on the hands of each and every one of the senators who gleefully blocked reform.


55 posted on 07/05/2007 4:43:18 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: rjsimmon; Principled
That is, will state laws be wiped out when/if they pass an amnesty bill?

Among the many underreported provisions of Shamnesty was a federal ban on local LEOs having any involvement in immigration matters.

That would effectively have neutered any and all state immigration laws.

Many critics discussed the immunity to be given to all Z Visa-eligible illegal aliens. But that was immunity from federal laws. Little noticed was completely separate ban on local involvement in immigration matters.

56 posted on 07/05/2007 5:15:51 AM PDT by angkor
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To: Buzzm1
North Carolina growers need immigrant workers in order to thrive

You know, I wasn't going to respond to the list you had since it seemed mostly informational, but this one caught my eye.

This is carefully worded pap.

North Carolina probably didn't see an "immigrant worker" until sometime in the late 1980s, and there weren't more than a few until the late 1990's.

Somehow they managed to "thrive" before that. We all know how a lot of NC growers did that prior to 1865, but for 140 years since then it's pretty much been just people who have roots there going back hundreds of years.

57 posted on 07/05/2007 5:17:02 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: WWTD

It was my impression that the legislature wrote the law.

Are we certain the governor will enforce it?


58 posted on 07/05/2007 5:17:43 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Happiness is a down sleeping bag)
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To: Dubya

This needs to happen country wide. However, my question is, is it being enforced?

It’s good to have a law like this, but not enforcing it is just as good as not having the law in the first place.

re: our current federal immigration laws.


59 posted on 07/05/2007 5:20:07 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Famously frisky)
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To: donna
LOL...it's Hasbert, isn't it?....Dennis Hasbert, the actor

I woke up in the middle of the night trying to get it right :)

60 posted on 07/05/2007 5:54:09 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President 2008!!!)
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