Posted on 07/03/2007 5:39:57 AM PDT by Quilla
1. WMD did indeed exist inside Iraq before the war.
2. The weapons inspectors were both fooled and bribed to ignore evidence.
3. Massive amounts of WMD were removed to known locations in Syria just prior to the war.
4. Massive numbers of Saddam's audio tapes and paper documents were collected and most remain unavailable and presumably un-translated.
5. U.S. officials refused to investigate a number of likely WMD sites.
6. The U.S. intelligence community, and other branches of this government, are stonewalling the issue.
"Now, it would be common to ask for the reason the Bush Administration has not revealed that WMDs are in Syria and/or Lebanon. According to Israeli intelligence sources, it is likely because exposure of that would lead to a domino effect where evidence would leak out that Iraq's programs had roles played by Egypt, Syria, Libya and Saudi Arabia. [plus the French, Germans and Russians] Such leaks will enflame the region and especially Iraq, and make things much harder, resulting in a more bloody and costly war and diminishing likelihood that other countries would send forces in.[71] Additionally, people would be skeptic, saying it was a lie so that the war-mongering neo-cons were trying to justify a new conquest. The other side would put enormous pressure to bring the war to Syria-a war we are not yet ready to fight."
Reviewer 1: In General Sada's unique position, he was able to observe some of the worst of Saddam's behavior and trickery and confirms in this book not only the existence of weapons of mass destruction (WMD), but also the extraordinary lengths that Saddam went to hide these weapons....
Reviewer 2: The author tells how Saddam managed to trick the world into believing he did not have weapons of mass destruction. He goes into detail how Saddam managed to hide all evidence of WMD's and how he managed to move all of them out of Iraq under the noses of the United Nations weapons inspectors. ....
Reviewer 3: Of particular note are tapes of more than 3,000 hours of Saddam Hussein meeting with his war cabinet and millions of pages of documents that contain vital information about Saddam's WMD program and plans for transporting the WMDs out of the country in order to dupe the weapons inspectors.... American and world citizens must demand that these tapes and documents be immediately released, translated, and analyzed in their entirety.
"On February 16, President George W. Bush assembled a small group of congressional Republicans for a briefing on Iraq." Representative Mike Pence said to President Bush, "There are 3,000 hours of Saddam tapes and millions of pages of other documents that we captured after the war. When will the American public get to see this information?"
"Bush replied that he wanted the documents released. He turned to [National Security Advisor Stephen] Hadley and asked for an update. Hadley explained that John Negroponte, Bush's Director of National Intelligence, "owns the documents" and that DNI lawyers were deciding how they might be handled.
"Bush told Hadley to expedite the release of the Iraq documents. "This stuff ought to be out. Put this stuff out." The president would reiterate this point before the meeting adjourned. .....
"Negroponte never got the message. Or he is choosing to ignore it. He has done nothing to expedite the exploitation of the documents. And he continues to block the growing congressional effort, led by [Rep. Pete] Hoekstra, [the Michigan Republican who chairs the House Intelligence Committee] to have the documents released.
"It's a fair bet that you have never heard of a guy called Dave Gaubatz. It's also a fair bet that you think the hunt for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq has found absolutely nothing, nada, zilch; and that therefore there never were any WMD programmers in Saddam's Iraq to justify the war ostensibly waged to protect the world from Saddam's use of nuclear, biological or chemical weapons."
"Dave Gaubatz, however, says you could not be more wrong. Saddam's WMD did exist. He should know because he found the sites where he is certain they were stored. And the reason you don't know about this is that the American administration failed to act on his information, lost' his classified reports and is now doing everything it can to prevent disclosure of the terrible fact that, through its own incompetence, it allowed Saddam's WMD to end up in the hands of the very terrorist states against whom it is so controversially at war."
"After helping to lead the Soviet Union's germ-weapons program, Ken Alibek defected to the United States and began warning about the threat of a mass-casualty biological attack. Alibek also has sought to profit from the fear of such weapons of mass destruction, landing federal contracts or grants totaling about $28 million."
Yes, the media seems to have forgotten completely. The Democrats all say they never would have gone to war. The lefties all say we invented the war for oil.
No what I'm saying is that intelligence can be wrong. No one is perfect. Unless you know where the WMDs are (well other than the Syrian desert....). A fact has no bias. How groups with an agenda, right or wrong, decide to use that information is up to them.
Last year General Sada spoke at our church. He described how Saddam had shipped the WMD to Syria by using airplanes that were full of “humanitarian aid” for Syria after they had a massive earthquake. Of course, there was no “aid”, just WMD.
He had no intention of writing a book until the foiled attack on Jordan. Do you remember that there were tons of Sarin gas that they were planning on releasing? General Sada realized that they (whoever it was who was going to attack Jordan) had found the Iraqi WMD in the Syrian desert and were using those. The general figured he had better expose all of this for the safety of the world. By the way, he had previously told the US government about it, but they seemed to do nothing with the info.
When it comes to demonrats, especially the moonbat variety...
They will weave together intricate webs and point to flimsy evidence when it comes to ANY conspiracy theory that involves the Bush administration and Republicans.
But...
When it comes to the possibility that Iraqi WMDs existed and were moved, they ignore ALL evidence, put up an obstinate wall, and proclaim “there never were any!”
"Don't know your past, don't know your future" -Ziggy Marley
I’m so sick of the BS over this. We let Saddam Hussein know months ahead of time we were coming, for weeks we observed transport of materials out of Iraq. Duh.
bump
Desperation bump
Then either
a) you have not talked to the correct people
b) the people you talked to are more discreet than I
c) the people you talked to don’t have access
d) the people you talked to are under orders not to address such a situation
e) they did not disclose information for the same reason I cannot (as you put) “publish my account” because they (as I)am not a legal spokesman for the United States services.
or
f) they have not been directly present when any such evidence was presented.
And as for your comments about LA-
Yeah it’s there, can you tell me what the people in Little China sell in the way of movies that arent available to the US mainstream?
I can tell you what the people on the outskirts of my base sell... because I’m HERE.
I believe that less than 5% of the documents have been released.
Your comment is contrary to my post. They ALL believed, at one time, there were WMD in Iraq, but have since changed their story. I posted the quotes to point out their sickening hypocrisy.
I agree with that - and I didn’t miss the quotes.
I guess I was taking your quotes as further evidence that WMD existed and being ignored by the moonbats.
Works for me!
And of course only you would know the 'correct people'. Gotcha General..
b) the people you talked to are more discreet than I
As I don't know who the hell you are that's an easy out. I name a rank, position, etc (which I wouldn't do) you come back with 'I'm higher than x'
c) the people you talked to dont have access
Course not. Compared to General MacDorcha? How could they? You know all, o great seer....
d) the people you talked to are under orders not to address such a situation
As the Republic continues its downward spiral (as historically all major nation states and empires do over time), 'orders' become less important as respect for authority decreases. 70 years ago perhaps 99% of the military wouldn't have spoken because they still believed. Today, that number is probably more like 60-65%. And these soldiers could really care less as they're out. They went over there rather gung-ho but came back quite disappointed. Guess they didn't get their ration of flowers and chocolates from the children....
e) they did not disclose information for the same reason I cannot (as you put) publish my account because they (as I)am not a legal spokesman for the United States services.
Well gee General Mac, you sure sound like one!! But wait a minute. The report is based on what Dave Gaubatz stated he saw as a military soldier. So if he's not a legal spokesman either, we should dismiss what he says as well. Except it supports your belief so it should automatically be counted. That about the gist of it? One position automatically accepted because it's the government position, but the other automatically discounted because it's not the government's position
Well then again who knows what the government's position is. We've gone onto Wilsonian adventurism as the excuse. Or didn't you see all those purple fingers while you were there? Haven't even heard Fox News mention WMDs of late.
f) they have not been directly present when any such evidence was presented.
Oh okay. A select few were directly present then. Along with Major MacDorcha. I mean really. Who'd a thunk someone so 'in the know' about WMDs that they can't talk about has the time to post cryptic messages on the internet that they 'know' something the rest of the free world has for the most part dismissed
Tell you what. Get back to me when this 'information' is released on a somewhat reputable news source. I'll take Fox, although that's mostly an opinion station but I would prefer a more reputable old world source
Heck, Iran was Iraq's biggest enemy for over a decade, hundreds of thousands of casualties, and Saddaam sent his entire air force to Iran rather than allow it to fall into Allied hands.
Doesnt anybody realize that the expression the enemy of my enemy is my friend originated in the middle east?
The thinking that natural enemies never collude is fatal, and will eventually be our downfall if we ever elect a Dem CiC. We're already hearing that Iran and al Quida could never work together because one's Shiite and the other is Sunni.
Just because you don’t know someone who can confirm your feelings doesn’t mean there isn’t someone who knows.
And if you can top Flag ranks, then you can top not only my sources, but my security clearance. There’s your “easy out” chief.
If you care to ASK, I’m sure you could find out what my rank is. But of course, you have that taste in your mouth of a conspiracy, and you are addicted.
Fire doesn’t melt steel in your world. And the Moon has never been landed on. And the Soviets were the first to fly.
And as for being “in the know” and “posting cryptic messages”-
Go talk to “your people.” Ask them If this would be the correct forum for anyone (even if I WAS an official spokeman of the Army, which I most certainly am not) to make an official announcement one way or the other in regards to the situation.
This soldier’s unofficial response to your theory is that you do NOT have the slighest idea of what is going on out here. Period.
Until the government permits such information to be spread as such, you will continue to hear only bits and pieces. And in your case, you won’t even hear that.
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