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To: MacDorcha
Then either a) you have not talked to the correct people

And of course only you would know the 'correct people'. Gotcha General..

b) the people you talked to are more discreet than I

As I don't know who the hell you are that's an easy out. I name a rank, position, etc (which I wouldn't do) you come back with 'I'm higher than x'

c) the people you talked to don’t have access

Course not. Compared to General MacDorcha? How could they? You know all, o great seer....

d) the people you talked to are under orders not to address such a situation

As the Republic continues its downward spiral (as historically all major nation states and empires do over time), 'orders' become less important as respect for authority decreases. 70 years ago perhaps 99% of the military wouldn't have spoken because they still believed. Today, that number is probably more like 60-65%. And these soldiers could really care less as they're out. They went over there rather gung-ho but came back quite disappointed. Guess they didn't get their ration of flowers and chocolates from the children....

e) they did not disclose information for the same reason I cannot (as you put) “publish my account” because they (as I)am not a legal spokesman for the United States services.

Well gee General Mac, you sure sound like one!! But wait a minute. The report is based on what Dave Gaubatz stated he saw as a military soldier. So if he's not a legal spokesman either, we should dismiss what he says as well. Except it supports your belief so it should automatically be counted. That about the gist of it? One position automatically accepted because it's the government position, but the other automatically discounted because it's not the government's position

Well then again who knows what the government's position is. We've gone onto Wilsonian adventurism as the excuse. Or didn't you see all those purple fingers while you were there? Haven't even heard Fox News mention WMDs of late.

f) they have not been directly present when any such evidence was presented.

Oh okay. A select few were directly present then. Along with Major MacDorcha. I mean really. Who'd a thunk someone so 'in the know' about WMDs that they can't talk about has the time to post cryptic messages on the internet that they 'know' something the rest of the free world has for the most part dismissed

Tell you what. Get back to me when this 'information' is released on a somewhat reputable news source. I'll take Fox, although that's mostly an opinion station but I would prefer a more reputable old world source

76 posted on 07/03/2007 9:58:03 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: billbears

Just because you don’t know someone who can confirm your feelings doesn’t mean there isn’t someone who knows.

And if you can top Flag ranks, then you can top not only my sources, but my security clearance. There’s your “easy out” chief.

If you care to ASK, I’m sure you could find out what my rank is. But of course, you have that taste in your mouth of a conspiracy, and you are addicted.

Fire doesn’t melt steel in your world. And the Moon has never been landed on. And the Soviets were the first to fly.

And as for being “in the know” and “posting cryptic messages”-

Go talk to “your people.” Ask them If this would be the correct forum for anyone (even if I WAS an official spokeman of the Army, which I most certainly am not) to make an official announcement one way or the other in regards to the situation.

This soldier’s unofficial response to your theory is that you do NOT have the slighest idea of what is going on out here. Period.

Until the government permits such information to be spread as such, you will continue to hear only bits and pieces. And in your case, you won’t even hear that.


79 posted on 07/03/2007 10:29:15 AM PDT by MacDorcha (study links agenda-driven morons and junk science...)
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To: billbears; MacDorcha
Bill, come on man. You can't be so dim as to believe that there are no WMDs, or that there never were any, or that they haven't been hidden, stolen, or are still being looked into. The thousands of cannisters of chemical and biological agents, and the yellow cake should've convinced you otherwise if so. We gave Sodamn plenty of time to hide or dispose of them.

I have known Mac for half of my life, we've grown up together, and I call him an uncle to my daughter. I trust him with what he has to say or can't say yet, as much as I honor him being over there in the arena and keeping us safe. So it's really upsetting that you would act in such a condescending manner when speaking with him.

If you can't add anything constructive to the convo, by all means, keep sputtering nonsense, just don't mind if I ignore you, eh?

93 posted on 07/03/2007 12:19:51 PM PDT by EarthBound (Ex Deo,gratia. Ex astris,scientia (Duncan Hunter in 2008! http://www.gohunter08.com))
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