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Don't Be So Sure There Were No WMD in Iraq
The American Thinker ^ | July 3, 2007 | Rachel Neuwirth

Posted on 07/03/2007 5:39:57 AM PDT by Quilla

 Introduction

The references cited in this article strongly suggest that:

1. WMD did indeed exist inside Iraq before the war.

2. The weapons inspectors were both fooled and bribed to ignore evidence.

3. Massive amounts of WMD were removed to known locations in Syria just prior to the war.

4. Massive numbers of Saddam's audio tapes and paper documents were collected and most remain unavailable and presumably un-translated.

5. U.S. officials refused to investigate a number of likely WMD sites.

6. The U.S. intelligence community, and other branches of this government, are stonewalling the issue.
Readers are urged to review the references and decide for themselves.

Before America went to war to topple Saddam Hussein's regime it was widely believed that he possessed weapons of mass destruction. Today it is widely believed that there were no WMD in Iraq before the war. People of both political parties, the major media, and the intellectual community all appear in strong agreement on that point. Some even charge that the Bush Administration deliberately, and knowingly, misled the nation with false information as a pretext to justify going to war.

The Bush Administration is quietly acknowledging that they made a mistake, albeit not intentional. That admission seems to be the final confirmation that there were no WMD in Iraq. In police work when the accused confesses to making a mistake, it is then assumed that the accusation is true and people consider it to be ‘case closed'.

This widespread belief of no WMD in Iraq is seriously damaging our ability to deal with a growing nuclear threat from Iran. There are those who opposed our toppling mass murderer Saddam Hussein both in 1991 and again in 2003, even after he defied multiple U.N. resolutions and was generally believed to have WMD. Now the ‘peace at any price' crowd is exploiting the widespread belief of ‘no WMD' to undermine our war in Iraq. If we fail in Iraq it greatly weakens our ability to deal with Iran, which will become greatly emboldened and infinitely more dangerous as it eventually goes nuclear.

Opponents of military action to stop Iran claim that the mistake over Iraq means that we cannot trust any claim by the Bush Administration regarding Iran's growing nuclear threat. That logic may be faulty but it will further turn opinion against dealing with Iran, especially with those who are now sour on our war in Iraq - and that is currently a majority of Americans. The opponents of military action persistently argue for more ‘negotiations' as the only way to avoid a nuclear Iran even while Iran is clearly stalling for sufficient time to acquire the bomb.

It is therefore essential that the widespread belief of ‘no WMD in Iraq' be double-checked for accuracy. But how can average citizens, and other non-experts, really know the truth? Unfortunately, too many people refuse to reconsider an issue once their minds are made up. Reconsideration is essential and there is a way to deal with this question, at least indirectly. That way is to list critical unanswered questions and then demand that the proponents of ‘no WMD in Iraq' come up with credible answers. Those who adamantly insist that there were no WMD have a duty to answer the following questions or else admit their assertions remain unproven and conceivably wrong.

Obvious Question

Bill Clinton, John Kerry, and other Democrats, all saw the same intelligence back when Clinton was President and George Tenet headed the CIA. They all claimed Iraq had WMD which threatened America. If there really were no WMD, why are they not held equally accountable for misleading the American people? Shouldn't they be required to reveal the basis for their assertions? George Bush retained Clinton's CIA chief who reportedly assured Bush that it was a "slam dunk" that Saddam Hussein had WMD. Other intelligence services including those of NATO and Israel also believed there were WMD. Why don't the critics attempt to discover the evidence for those conclusions?

What was Saddam Hussein hiding with his elaborate schemes to frustrate the U.N. arms inspectors? Why would Saddam needlessly provoke the U.N. and the U.S. into going to war against him if he had nothing to hide? Why haven't the critics answered this question?

Shortly before the war, it was reported that U.S. satellites spotted truck convoys moving from Iraq to Syria at night. One possible explanation is that Saddam had WMD and removed them before the war. Various reports claim that the Russians helped move convoys and planeloads of materials from Iraq into Syria to at least three heavily guarded locations, identified, at least two years ago, by Debka.com and other news sources.

Inexplicably, there has been no effort to discover what was moved. If WMD were indeed removed in this manner, shouldn't we know it? If it turns out that WMD were removed then the war in Iraq becomes justified and the focus should then shift to Syria. If Saddam Hussein was not allowed to have WMD, why then is Syria, Iran's new ally, allowed to have possible WMD with no inspection? Is there unfinished business relative to Saddam's WMD? Is Syria now able to threaten Israel and U.S. forces in the region with chemical and biological weapons?

Where is Saddam's bio weapons expert known as Doctor Germ? What was her work? Saddam's chemical weapons expert known as "Chemical Ali" was recently sentenced to death. What was he doing prior to the war in 2003? Two of Saddam's sons-in law defected and testified about Saddam's WMD. They were spirited back by Saddam and then promptly killed. What did they reveal to U.S. authorities?

Libya's Colonel Khaddaffi gave up his WMD to the U.S. What weapons did the U.S. recover and ship back to America and who was working on these programs? Did Saddam Hussein sponsor the Libyan WMD program?

Early Reports

Seven months after the war began, an extensive report was published presenting a wealth of information on Iraqi WMD and containing 76 open source citations. It described how and what was hidden and how much of it was moved to Syria and Lebanon. It is ‘a must read'. The following paragraph is excerpted from that report.

"Now, it would be common to ask for the reason the Bush Administration has not revealed that WMDs are in Syria and/or Lebanon. According to Israeli intelligence sources, it is likely because exposure of that would lead to a domino effect where evidence would leak out that Iraq's programs had roles played by Egypt, Syria, Libya and Saudi Arabia. [plus the French, Germans and Russians] Such leaks will enflame the region and especially Iraq, and make things much harder, resulting in a more bloody and costly war and diminishing likelihood that other countries would send forces in.[71] Additionally, people would be skeptic, saying it was a lie so that the war-mongering neo-cons were trying to justify a new conquest. The other side would put enormous pressure to bring the war to Syria-a war we are not yet ready to fight."
Iraqi General Georges Sada

In another intelligence revelation, ex Iraqi General Georges Sada recently published his book, Saddam's Secrets: How an Iraqi General Defied & Survived Saddam Hussein. In it he explains how, just prior to the war, Saddam moved his WMD to Syria, with Russian help. Go to www.amazon.com and search for author Georges Sada. Click on picture of book, "Saddam's Secrets". Scroll down to read reviews.

Reviews from Publishers Weekly:

Reviewer 1: In General Sada's unique position, he was able to observe some of the worst of Saddam's behavior and trickery and confirms in this book not only the existence of weapons of mass destruction (WMD), but also the extraordinary lengths that Saddam went to hide these weapons....

Reviewer 2: The author tells how Saddam managed to trick the world into believing he did not have weapons of mass destruction. He goes into detail how Saddam managed to hide all evidence of WMD's and how he managed to move all of them out of Iraq under the noses of the United Nations weapons inspectors. ....

Reviewer 3: Of particular note are tapes of more than 3,000 hours of Saddam Hussein meeting with his war cabinet and millions of pages of documents that contain vital information about Saddam's WMD program and plans for transporting the WMDs out of the country in order to dupe the weapons inspectors.... American and world citizens must demand that these tapes and documents be immediately released, translated, and analyzed in their entirety.
Intelligence Summit Meeting

Hundreds of security experts of diverse backgrounds convened on February 17, 2006 to evaluate Iraqi WMD. The organizers announced that translations of 12 hours of tapes of Saddam Hussein's cabinet meetings would be revealed at the meeting. In it Saddam would be heard talking about Iraq's WMD, its nuclear programs and how he fooled UN inspectors. Ten days before the meeting attendees received messages from inside the administration pressuring them not to attend. "However, these new tapes would have forced the intelligence community to admit that they misled President George W. Bush to state that Iraq had no WMD. Such admission, apparently, was something the intelligence community wanted to avoid by attempting to discredit this conference."

Captured Tapes and Documents

"Who'll Let the Docs Out? Bush wants to release the Saddam files but his [national] intelligence chief [John Negroponte] stalls. By Stephen F. Hayes" 03/20/2006, Volume 011, Issue 25 of the WeeklyStandard.com

Excerpts:

"On February 16, President George W. Bush assembled a small group of congressional Republicans for a briefing on Iraq." Representative Mike Pence said to President Bush, "There are 3,000 hours of Saddam tapes and millions of pages of other documents that we captured after the war. When will the American public get to see this information?"

"Bush replied that he wanted the documents released. He turned to [National Security Advisor Stephen] Hadley and asked for an update. Hadley explained that John Negroponte, Bush's Director of National Intelligence, "owns the documents" and that DNI lawyers were deciding how they might be handled.
.......
"Bush told Hadley to expedite the release of the Iraq documents. "This stuff ought to be out. Put this stuff out." The president would reiterate this point before the meeting adjourned. .....
......

"Negroponte never got the message. Or he is choosing to ignore it. He has done nothing to expedite the exploitation of the documents. And he continues to block the growing congressional effort, led by [Rep. Pete] Hoekstra, [the Michigan Republican who chairs the House Intelligence Committee] to have the documents released.
‘I found Saddam's WMD bunkers'

Posted By Melanie Phillips On April 19, 2007 @ 9:26 am In Daily Mail |

A devastating expose of criminal incompetence and cover-up by the U.S. government. The first two paragraphs follow.

"It's a fair bet that you have never heard of a guy called Dave Gaubatz. It's also a fair bet that you think the hunt for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq has found absolutely nothing, nada, zilch; and that therefore there never were any WMD programmers in Saddam's Iraq to justify the war ostensibly waged to protect the world from Saddam's use of nuclear, biological or chemical weapons."

"Dave Gaubatz, however, says you could not be more wrong. Saddam's WMD did exist. He should know because he found the sites where he is certain they were stored. And the reason you don't know about this is that the American administration failed to act on his information, ‘lost' his classified reports and is now doing everything it can to prevent disclosure of the terrible fact that, through its own incompetence, it allowed Saddam's WMD to end up in the hands of the very terrorist states against whom it is so controversially at war."
Media Spin

Another problem with objectively appraising the danger of WMD is exemplified in a recent article  that originally appeared in the Los Angeles Times. The headline reads: "Scientist profits on fears of WMD. - Germ-weapons expert wins grants, federal contracts through his warnings of mass-casualty biological attack." Notice how the reader is immediately primed to be suspicious by the use of emotionally charged words such as "...profits on fears..."

The first paragraph reads,
"After helping to lead the Soviet Union's germ-weapons program, Ken Alibek defected to the United States and began warning about the threat of a mass-casualty biological attack. Alibek also has sought to profit from the fear of such weapons of mass destruction, landing federal contracts or grants totaling about $28 million."
The first sentence above acknowledges that Ken Alibeck had good reason to know about the Soviet Union's germ-weapons program and hence he has credibility. But then, as if to immediately undermine his credibility, there follows the insinuation that, ..." Alibek also has sought to profit from the fear ..." This implies a selfish, if not a sinister, motivation. And in support of this insinuation we are told that his company received government contracts or grants, as if that alone was evidence of wrongdoing.

If the LA Times has any proof of wrongdoing by Alibeck let them produce the evidence. Instead, this news implies an accusation without actually making a charge that could expose them to be prosecuted for libel. Honest reporting would require a clear separation between presenting hard facts and offering editorial opinion. Their blatant failure to observe journalistic ethics raises the question of an agenda on the part of the LA Times.

Too may people are imposing their biases and opinions on the WMD issue which makes it much harder to get the full truth and to defend against a future attack.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: insurgents; iraq; saddam; syria; terrorism; terrorists; wmd; wot
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To: sarasota
I still maintain that WMD’s were moved to Syria and are still there.

That's as silly as suggesting that Saddam would fly his Air Force to Iran.

41 posted on 07/03/2007 6:42:12 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: Bluebird Singing
Does anyone remember seeing the satellite footage of the caravans of Iraqi military vehicles heading to Syria which was shown in the weeks before we went to war in Iraq?

Yes. I remember seeing a sat photo of a convoy prior to the invasion said to contain 1400 trucks heading across the desert of western Iraq towards Syria. Unfortunately, I didn't save the photo at the time. A couple of years later when all the "Bush lied - No WMD" arguments started flying I was arguing with a Liberal neighbor of mine on this very subject. I searched trying to find a copy of that photo to shut up that Liberal neighbor, but a lengthy Google search turned up nothing.

I think Saddam's WMD's were real and he had lots of them. They were trucked to Syria with the help of the Russians and the US Military knows it. I suspect that the reason this hasn't been made widely public has to do with not wanting to embarass the Russians. I would also suspect that we have spooks in country keeping an eye on things, as well as a satelite parked over Syria. Then again, what better place to store some of the nastiest stuff on earth than old Bashar's back yard?

42 posted on 07/03/2007 6:43:31 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Made in China: Treat those three words like a warning label)
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To: sarasota
I even wrote to the History Channel but never received an answer. Is that where you saw it?

Couldn't have been, since I don't have cable. It was probably on Fox. Of course I realized at the time that they couldn't bomb a convoy they suspected of being full of WMD not knowing how the WMD would disseminate or redetonate. Still, that didn't stop me from shouting for them to do something to stop it.

43 posted on 07/03/2007 6:52:37 AM PDT by Fairview ( Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.)
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To: Quilla; jveritas; ikez78

Thanks for posting; pings.


44 posted on 07/03/2007 6:55:36 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Polybius

Very interesting indeed. Thanks for the link.


45 posted on 07/03/2007 6:58:23 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: billbears

So in other words Bill, you’re saying that all the intelligence agencies (U.S., NATO, French, etc.) were WRONG, and the MoveOn.Org, Code Pink, ANSWER-freaks, anti-American leftists the world over plus the UK’s George Galloway (not to mention Saddam himself) were RIGHT?

OOOO-kay.


46 posted on 07/03/2007 7:05:51 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: sarasota
They also had photos of the underground labs

Yea. What the heck happened to the "complex maze of underground tunnels, labs and bunkers"? I thought that an amazing documentary would have been made by now taking us on a long tour of the complete underground world of Saddam Hussein. What was suggested was that Saddam burrowed underground tunnels like a groundhog. What if Saddam created tunnels from Iraq into Syria? I mean, look at how many tunnels have been created from Mexico into the U.S. Does anyone really think that a man who probably made an underground city under Iraq wouldn't have created a few escape tunnels into neighboring countries?
47 posted on 07/03/2007 7:06:36 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (The United States of America is the only country strong enough to go it alone.)
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To: dfwgator
Saddam Hussein WAS a WMD.

Yes he was.


48 posted on 07/03/2007 7:06:49 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: Quilla

Ping for reference WMD’s


49 posted on 07/03/2007 7:09:35 AM PDT by BreezyDog
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To: sarasota; Bluebird Singing

I distinctly remember seeing the footage you’re referring to. I’ve always felt that the whole world KNEW the WMDs did exist, but to admit it would not discredit the president; therefore, it’s easier to claim Bush lied.


50 posted on 07/03/2007 7:14:50 AM PDT by Old Grumpy
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To: MrB

The democrats making the same assertions are held blameless because....
They were too GUTLESS

Yep, Bush was more effective then Clinton in dealing with Saddam.


51 posted on 07/03/2007 7:19:16 AM PDT by Son House ( Democrats are Hostile to Tax Payers.)
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To: Kerretarded
What the heck happened to the "complex maze of underground tunnels, labs and bunkers"?

Semper Fi - April, 2003.

Marines hold nuclear site

Snip:

SOUTH OF BAGHDAD -- In a valley sculpted by man, between the palms and roses, lies a vast marble and steel city known as Al-Tuwaitha.

In the suburbs about 18 miles south of the capital's suburbs, this city comprises nearly 100 buildings -- workshops, laboratories, cooling towers, nuclear reactors, libraries and barracks -- that belong to the Iraqi Atomic Energy Commission.

Investigators Tuesday discovered that Al-Tuwaitha hides another city. This underground nexus of labs, warehouses, and bomb-proof offices was hidden from the public and, perhaps, International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors who combed the site just two months ago, until the U.S. Marine Corps Combat Engineers discovered it three days ago.

Today, the Marines hold it against enemy counter-attacks.

52 posted on 07/03/2007 7:20:18 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: Old Grumpy

the U.S. has recovered HUNDREDS of chemical shells-
brand NEW but not filled-

The U.S. has recovered HUNDREDS of chemical shells
FILLED with various agents.

Remember Libya?- they turned over 10 TONS of chemical and
NUCLEAR material- they claim they collaborated with-

DRUM ROLL... Iraq, Iran,Syria


53 posted on 07/03/2007 7:21:07 AM PDT by mj1234
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To: Kerretarded

The underground network was shown on the documentary I saw on the History Channel. It was incredible, and buried far enough below ground that it was considered indistructable. Where did this documentary go?? Classified??


54 posted on 07/03/2007 7:22:10 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: Bluebird Singing

I remember seeing it. I remember well.


55 posted on 07/03/2007 7:25:38 AM PDT by jusduat (I am a strange and recurring anomaly)
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To: Quilla
I for one have never doubted that Saddam had mass quantities of WMD and the equipment to make more, and that they were moved and/or buried before the war.

Just about every prominent Democrat believed and stated this also. For them to now claim that "Bush lied" and there was deception is hypocrisy.

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." -- Nancy Pelosi, December 16, 1998

"(W)e need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. We all know the litany of his offenses. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. ...And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. That is why the world, through the United Nations Security Council, has spoken with one voice, demanding that Iraq disclose its weapons programs and disarm. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but it is not new. It has been with us since the end of the Persian Gulf War." -- John Kerry, Jan 23, 2003

"There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein's regime is a serious danger, that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass destruction cannot be tolerated. He must be disarmed." -- Ted Kennedy, Sept 27, 2002

"Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his access to weapons of mass destruction. Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." -- Al Gore, 2002

"The debate over Iraq is not about politics. It is about national security. It should be clear that our national security requires Congress to send a clear message to Iraq and the world: America is united in its determination to eliminate forever the threat of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

"Iraq is not the only nation in the world to possess weapons of mass destruction, but it is the only nation with a leader who has used them against his own people." -- Tom Daschle in 1998

"I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons...I saw evidence back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up and then moving those trucks out." -- Clinton's Secretary of Defense William Cohen in April of 2003

"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow." -- Bill Clinton in 1998

"There's no question that Saddam Hussein is a threat... Yes, he has chemical and biological weapons. He's had those for a long time. But the United States right now is on a very much different defensive posture than we were before September 11th of 2001... He is, as far as we know, actively pursuing nuclear capabilities, though he doesn't have nuclear warheads yet. If he were to acquire nuclear weapons, I think our friends in the region would face greatly increased risks as would we." -- Wesley Clark on September 26, 2002

"Saddam's goal ... is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed." -- Madeline Albright, 1998

"(Saddam) will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and some day, some way, I am certain he will use that arsenal again, as he has 10 times since 1983" -- National Security Adviser Sandy Berger, Feb 18, 1998

"Iraq made commitments after the Gulf War to completely dismantle all weapons of mass destruction, and unfortunately, Iraq has not lived up to its agreement." -- Barbara Boxer, November 8, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retained some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capability. Intelligence reports also indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons, but has not yet achieved nuclear capability." -- Robert Byrd, October 2002

"Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." -- Bob Graham, December 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." -- Ted Kennedy, September 27, 2002

"I will be voting to give the president of the United States the authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." -- John F. Kerry, Oct 2002

56 posted on 07/03/2007 7:26:42 AM PDT by Sender (Success in warfare is gained by carefully accommodating ourselves to the enemy's purpose.)
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To: Sender

How quickly those words have been forgotten by so many.


57 posted on 07/03/2007 7:28:30 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: billbears
"little green men"

On April of 2004 a sarin gas canister was fired at American troops by insurgents. Even Peter Jennings reported it on the news the following day. Where do you think that canister came from? And other canisters have been found also. You're deluding yourself.

58 posted on 07/03/2007 7:31:37 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: MacDorcha
I’m still waiting for your answer-

Oh I'm sorry, I actually have a life away from the computer. I didn't know you were still here.

have you ever served in Iraq since the outbreak of the war?

Stupid question. Just because I haven't been somewhere I can't know anything about a situation? Hey I've never been to Los Angeles. Is it there? Should I take the word of those that live there or is it not there until I see it? Have you been throughout the entire country of Iraq? Every mile?

But no I haven't been to Iraq. Which in way discredits my view on the situation. I have talked with those that have been there and have friends that were there. And not a one of them still agrees with this latest Wilsonian adventure

59 posted on 07/03/2007 7:34:28 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: Quilla

I agree, however, stockpiled WMDs were never considered the threat to America that many think.

The threat to America was always smaller amounts of WMDs delivered by suicidal terrorists.

Saddam ALWAYS retained the capability AND RECIPES to make small quantities of WMDs that could be handed off to terrorists.


60 posted on 07/03/2007 7:35:41 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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