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Muslim prayers in school debated
UNION-TRIBUNE ^ | 07/02/07 | Helen Gao

Posted on 07/02/2007 8:50:37 PM PDT by Pikamax

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To: Twink

Thanks Twink! Lots and lots more - coming.


21 posted on 07/02/2007 9:42:16 PM PDT by expatguy (No Longer a Luddite - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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To: goldstategop

Christians can pray in public school.

I’m a volunteer for a lunch time club for Christian kids (Campus Life which is part of Kids for Christ), and it meets in a public middle school in California.

As long as we get parental permission and we have a teacher that will be in the room with us, the kids can participate and learn about Christ and pray.


22 posted on 07/02/2007 9:44:55 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Tzimisce

Christians can pray in public school.

The teachers cannot lead the prayer.

There’s a difference.


23 posted on 07/02/2007 9:46:28 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: noamnasty

You’re right. But the Left, especially the ACLU, despises Christians and love to poke them in the eye every chance they get.


24 posted on 07/02/2007 9:51:51 PM PDT by CAWats
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To: goldstategop
If Muslims are allowed to pray in public school, why can't Christians and Jews do the same? You might want to ask the ACLU secular jihadists about the double standard.

Glenn Beck has one of these commie ACLU guys on his show last night. Mike Gallagher was on the other side and make this commie guy look pretty stupid in regards to supporting the Fairness Doctrine. The commie guy said it had nothing to do with changing programming but it would allow the government to decide who got licenses. This guy was so full of bull stuff it was unbelievable. But then again so is the whole ACLU.

25 posted on 07/02/2007 10:01:31 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: CAWats
Carver's supporters noted that Christianity and other religions, unlike Islam, do not require their followers to pray at specific times that fall within school hours, when children by law must be in school.

Actually, Christian Scriptures exhort the believer to "pray without ceasing." And while there is obviously more stringent requirements for the practice of Islamic prayers than Christian prayers, at what point does the school draw the line in the assimilation/accomodation tension? Do the Muslims need classes which are gender separated?

Once you allow for (and encourage) non-Western cultural and religious differences in education (because that is what this is about), there is no stopping point. Every new group represented simply becomes another constituency to be placated and catered to. And that's because "multi-culturalism" has been accepted as an unquestioned benefit to society. Though no one's sure why. It does sound like the nice thing to do.

26 posted on 07/02/2007 10:03:59 PM PDT by the808bass
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To: the808bass

I’m tired of the Muslims with all their crap.


27 posted on 07/02/2007 10:05:39 PM PDT by CAWats
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To: CAWats
Carver's supporters noted that Christianity and other religions, unlike Islam, do not require their followers to pray at specific times that fall within school hours, when children by law must be in school.

What they convieniently forget is that the religion of hate, destruction and discrimination also makes allowances for adjusting the prayer time to fit circumstances.

28 posted on 07/02/2007 10:06:50 PM PDT by zeugma (Don't Want illegal Alien Amnesty? Call 800-417-7666)
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To: Pikamax

An establishment of religion is quite alright with the elite Left rulers in government...as long as that religion is not Christianity.


29 posted on 07/02/2007 10:07:23 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: luckystarmom
"The teachers cannot lead the prayer. There’s a difference."

So who leads the Muslim kids in prayer?

Also, in my experience children do not participate in the five-times-per-day prayer schedule. It's intended for adults. And many, many adult Muslims never do it, either. It involves getting up before dawn, for one thing.

30 posted on 07/02/2007 10:08:25 PM PDT by Irene Adler (')
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To: goldstategop
Muslims get the special privilege because they're notorious for their proven tendency to FIGHT for their right to religious expression...we Christians...uh, well...we simply aren't.

We're wimpy pacifists. We roll over.

Muslims are warriors. They raise their offspring with bomb belts and bandoliers. We raise ours in bistros and effeminize them by taking away dodge ball and any scoring during soccer games, because to keep score might hurt the kids' emotional development. Guess which kid, at age 18, will have a set of b@11s?

Sauron

31 posted on 07/02/2007 10:14:36 PM PDT by sauron ("Truth is hate to those who hate Truth" --unknown)
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To: Pikamax

Muslim prayers my A$$

The ACLU has already sued and won in the separation of church and state. I guess they surrendered to the mOSQUES. (I deliberetely capped and uncapped the CAPS key)


32 posted on 07/02/2007 10:16:29 PM PDT by Dov in Houston (The word Amnesty invokes a passion in me. Illegal immigrants are criminals. Supporters Aid & Abet)
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To: sauron
Read your home page.

Why would a Christian name himself Sauron ...?

And 'Avalon Hill Hexagonal games'...
Can you say Panzer Leader?

Cheers!

33 posted on 07/02/2007 10:21:35 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: weegee
it is a matter of life and death for us more so than them, they have our libs and leaders on their side . i don’t think there is anything they or the other enemy’s within can do to us to that we won’t accept . It’s getting to the point that we don’t deserve this country anymore . We will go down in history as the most complacent first world nation ever .

They are building their army of criminal serfs and psychos who won’t mind doing their bidding .

I already knew we were history when they got in our streets flying the Mexican and Islamic flags and millions of americans didn’t meet them in the streets . Add insult to injury, this is when our troops were dying at war with one of these groups . America was it, we have no place else to go or run to .

Reagan was a pig with a high spending astrology pagan for a wife who gave millions of illegals amnesty.Ye some still praise the him .

I’m just glad I’m old ! And I have enough sense to save a couple extra bullets for myself in case of capture by one of the headhunters .

It seems we don’t get it , do you know what they do to people ? You know what they did to our first 3 soldiers they caught last year ,they started by cutting off their fingers, hands stabbed out their eyes, castrated them and fed them their private parts , burned them, cut off limbs then finally slowly sawed off their heads! They kept them alive with drugs and slowed the blood so they could torture them longer . This is what we are fighting with phone calls, emails and fax's .Same thing to these others they just got their demon hands on , but you have to dig hard to find this news . We need to call all together and get into the capitals,the streets and the county commish meetings . Don't let any more radical cultist or pervert push our kids out of schools or teach them any more filth . Help the Minutemen and go to the borders on vacation , don't just stand behind the lines and cheer . Our enemies smell our weakness and get braver .

34 posted on 07/02/2007 10:25:45 PM PDT by noamnasty
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To: VOA
....the ACLU has no problem with Muslims because the ACLU’s patron saint Thomas Jefferson never said anything about “separation of mosque and state”.

There is no separation of Church and State either. It's the ACLU's biggest myth ever purported upon this nation. This is a Judeo-Christian nation. Attention all muzzies, when in Rome.... No one dare even bring a Bible into a muzzie country. All confirmed Christians are killed in muzzie countries. Why do we allow the ACLU to spread their filth?

35 posted on 07/02/2007 10:31:35 PM PDT by Frwy (Proud member of the vast right wing conspiracy.)
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To: A_perfect_lady
Boy, that wall between church and state just VANISHES where muslims are concerned, eh?

I wonder if at any time in history, a civilization has been more accommodating to the enemy than all of Western Civilization is today to radical Islam.

36 posted on 07/02/2007 10:35:07 PM PDT by SaveTheChief (Chief Illiniwek (1926-2007))
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To: sauron

I have to agree with you about the soccer comment (sports in general) but you killed with the set of balls thing.

The kids raised Muslim (and we’re seeing it now) don’t have balls, if we’re basing it on those who hate and blow up themselves and innocent people in the process. Muslims aren’t warriors. They’re cowards who believe in a *religion* that’s a death cult with a perverted prophet, which thrives on hatred and violence.

So the Muslim kid, at 18, won’t have a set of balls. At least not the kind that matter. That kid will probably grow up, has grown up, to be the fanatic loon we’re seeing now. Unless the phrase *set of balls* has changed when I wasn’t looking, I wouldn’t attribute it to any Muslim male.


37 posted on 07/02/2007 10:36:34 PM PDT by Twink
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To: Pikamax

If Christians are not allowed to pray, the Muslims should not be allowed to pray.

I would love to have them let the Meslims pray..............then we could put God back in the schools!


38 posted on 07/02/2007 10:50:47 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Irene Adler

I don’t think any accomodations should be given for the Muslims. Christians/Jews don’t get any accomodations.


39 posted on 07/02/2007 10:54:05 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: SaveTheChief

There is, of course, a way to end this nonsense. And that is to shut down immigration from the Middle East outside of Israel. Perhaps Lebanon, at least to the Maronites.

It makes no sense to me whatsoever why we tolerate this nonsense. Why allow those so prone to terrorism and disdain for Western culture into our nation when we have plenty who would willingly come here from Eastern Europe?

There you have a skilled people who generally speak English. Many university educated. A common background. Wonderful civilizations slowed by communism.

Really, that one society should be seen as superior to the other is without question in my eyes.


40 posted on 07/02/2007 10:55:02 PM PDT by CheyennePress
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