“...political Islam. It has no boundaries and seeks governmental domination. Political Islam has no moral courage for it is not based in universal truths of the one God of Abraham separated from the political affairs of this world. It is an ideology which accepts no responsibility for the plight of Muslims while blaming all others. Nations based upon individual freedom and liberty over collectivism and tribalism pose existential threats to the existence of the Islamists. This conflict can no longer be ignored”
How many terror plots need to be thwarted before the Muslim community begins to make breakthroughs out of the painful cycle of plots we live in from day to day?
Muslim) Informants in American Service
The Strategy Page ^ | June 4, 2006 | The Strategy Page
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/1643576/posts
Posted on 06/05/2006 7:56:30 AM CDT by Little Ray
A recent terrorist trial, and conviction, of an Islamic terrorists in New York City brought out the extent to which police have infiltrated Moslem communities in order to uncover terrorist plots. While most of this counter-terrorist activity within Moslem communities is kept secret, enough information has leaked out to make it clear that it’s no accident that the United States has not suffered another terrorist attack since September 11, 2001.
There is an extensive informant network within Moslem communities all over the United States. The FBI was pleasantly surprised right after September 11, 2001, by the number of calls they got from American Moslems, reporting suspicious events in their communities, or volunteering to keep an eye on things. It turned out that there was a substantial number of American Moslems, most of them recent immigrants (legal and illegal) that were pro al Qaeda. These attitudes had been causing distress among American Moslems since the 1990s. There had been violence, and even some murders, as the Islamic radicals tried to take control of Mosques, and other Moslem immigrant organizations
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Jihad: The Trail of Political Islam (Hardcover)
by Gilles Kepel (Author), Anthony F. Roberts (Translator)
http://www.amazon.com/Jihad-Trail-Political-Gilles-Kepel/dp/0674008774
Publisher: Belknap Press (April 15, 2002)
Amazon.com
Gilles Kepel’s Jihad is an intense, detailed examination of the militant Islamist movement over the last quarter-century. Kepel divides his book into two parts—”Expansion” and “Decline”—and posits that the September 11, 2001, attacks, rather than demonstrating “strength and irrepressible might,” highlighted the “isolation” and “fragmentation” of a “faltering” and probably doomed extremist ideology. Kepel follows Islamism from its theoretical underpinnings in the late 1960s and its rapid expansion into Africa, the Middle East, the Balkans, and Central, South, and Southeast Asia, through the Taliban’s ascendancy in Afghanistan and beyond. He explains Islamism’s attractions, and outlines its severe shortcomings. With consummate skill, he illuminates the bewilderingly intricate effects global events (oil prices, the fall of Communism) have had on internal politics of individual countries, and vice versa. Kepel, wisely, refuses to prognosticate. Instead, his achievement is in providing—for the determined reader—a deeply authoritative context for the seemingly inexplicable events of the recent past. —H. O’Billovich
“More Moslems came, and soon a small mosque was built, which attracted yet others. As long as Zoroastrians remained in the majority, their lives were tolerable; but once the Moslems became the more numerous, a petty but pervasive harassment was apt to develop. This was partly verbal, with taunts about fire-worship, and comments on how few Zoroastrians there were in the world, and how many Moslems, who must therefore posses the truth; and also on how many material advantages lay with Islam. The harassment was often also physical; boys fought, and gangs of youth waylaid and bullied individual Zoroastrians. They also diverted themselves by climbing into the local tower of silence and desecrating it, and they might even break into the fire-temple and seek to pollute or extinguish the sacred flame. Those with criminal leanings found too that a religious minority provided tempting opportunities for theft, pilfering from the open fields, and sometimes rape and arson. Those Zoroastrians who resisted all these pressures often preferred therefore in the end to sell out and move to some other place where their co-religionists were still relatively numerous, and they could live at peace; and so another village was lost to the old faith.”
Boyce, A Persian Stronghold of Zoroastrianism, pp. 7-8;
“We must encourage more Muslim leaders to add their voices, to speak out against radical extremists..”
Whaaaat?! Is Bush saying that it is up us to persuade Muslim leaders to condemn terrorism? It is incomprehensible how far over the top this guy is. Did he convert perhaps?
btt
Did any of you hear the former Scotland Yard commander today on Face the Nation, talking about the motivations behind the bungled bombings in GB?
He made a very interesting, and I think salient comment - that one of the chief goals of the terrorists was to try and create a greater divide between moderate muslims and the rest of civil society. Such increased alienation would provide more recruits for their efforts and give them more ideological fodder to continue their work.
Now, I’m no liberal, really, but it seems to me that “kick them all out” or “kill them all” really aren’t sane or tenable answers. Honestly, I think “convert them all to Christianity” is almost a saner answer than either of those two, and it’s not very sane either.
So let’s get real here. How do we stop the bad guys while fostering a lasting relationship with the good guys? Bush might have something here. And I don’t often agree with Bush.
The war for hearts and minds is one that isn’t going to be over soon, even if we don’t have troops in every last corner of the earth.
X
When you have so many Muslims with their own devout and sincere religious beliefs. And these beliefs are coupled with their belief in the importance and righteousness of their own higher cause. Being nice is not going to stop them. Talking rationally to them is not going to stop them. Pleading and begging is not going to stop them. Nothing is going to stop them but the use of overwhelming deadly force.
I don’t care. D@mn islam.