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What's the Rush?
ProLifeblogs ^ | June 27 2007 | plb

Posted on 07/01/2007 3:27:40 AM PDT by 8mmMauser

Edited on 07/02/2007 4:50:59 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

That's the question Bobby Schindler asked in the case involving Jesse Ramirez, the Arizona man whose case paralleled that of Schindler's sister, Terri Schiavo, until Ramirez woke up. The Arizona Republic reports:

...Bobby Schindler of the Florida-based Terri Schindler Shiavo Foundation placed the blame on a medical establishment quick to dismiss patients with brain injuries.

Schindler is the brother of Terri Schiavo, a brain-damaged Florida woman who died in 2005 after a decades-long court battle.

"What is the rush?" he asked. "This is not the first time we've heard of cases like this where doctors want to write off the chance of recovery, and the family, when they're told this, will make a decision to end a person's life.

"In the case of Mr. Ramirez, he'd be dead now."

Why is Jesse alive? His family sought legal intervention with the help of the Alliance Defense Fund:
His siblings and parents refused to give him up for dead, and today, Jesse Ramirez is alive and conscious.

Two weeks ago, he was the center of a family battling over of whether he should live or die.

Now, he can hug and kiss, nod his head, answer yes and no questions, give a thumbs-up sign and sit in a chair.

Related:

A Miracle for Jesse Ramirez and His Family

Jesse Ramirez Conscious, Moved To Rehab Facility

Accident victim awakens


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: civilrights; giannajessen; jebbush; jesseramirez; jgreer; medialies; parentsrights; schindler; terridailies; terrischiavo
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To: 8mmMauser
>> He insisted Silveira is a good mom, and blamed her behavior on “having a controlling boyfriend.”

Good moms do not cover up for their controlling boyfriends who hurt their children. Really good moms don't LET the boyfriends hurt their children in the first place. Really, really good moms shoot the honkbleepers if they try.

I am convinced the DSS was complicit in letting Holli Strickland steal Haleigh Poutre from her mother, and complicit again in letting Strickland "explain" repeated abuses. Jason Strickland, the husband, must have joined in the abuse, which included beatings, burning Haleigh with cigarettes, pushing her repeatedly down the stairs, and finally beating her comatose with a baseball bat. As soon as Holli was out of jail, Haleigh's grandmother shot her to death.

121 posted on 07/07/2007 4:41:45 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: 8mmMauser

Cod preserve us!


122 posted on 07/07/2007 4:44:00 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: T'wit

Lutefisk, the piece of cod that passeth understanding...


123 posted on 07/07/2007 4:45:47 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> As the Terry Schiavo case showed, Congress is not very good at playing doctor in politically charged areas.

Yeah, leave that to judges. They know when and how to kill disabled women.

124 posted on 07/07/2007 4:48:38 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> Lutefisk, the piece of cod that passeth understanding...

:-)

What it doesn't passeth is the smell test.

125 posted on 07/07/2007 4:52:13 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: 8mmMauser
Impromptu recipe for lutefisk:

Dry the cod till hard as bricks
Put the bricks in vats of lye
Lye turns bricks to jellied fish
Stinking up to heaven high
You will eat the lutefisk
Not I.

126 posted on 07/07/2007 4:56:01 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> but she was allowed to die in March 2005 after the Supreme Court refused to intervene.

She wasn't dying, you morons. She was killed, slain, murdered, assassinated, put to death, executed. They wouldn't even give her an ice chip to ease her agony.

>> An autopsy later showed her brain had shrunk markedly, and no recovery could have occurred.

The new Michael Schiavo murder law: If you can make your wife's brain shrink enough, you get a second chance to kill her. The court will help.

127 posted on 07/07/2007 5:05:16 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: All; TheSarce; monomaniac; wagglebee; narses; bjs1779
Here is another thread on the organ harvest, by monomaniac. Thanks to TheSarce for the ping...

Mrs. Navarro is the mother and only surviving family of her son Ruben, who was stricken with Adrenal Leukodystrophy, a rare disorder that left him confined to a wheelchair. The court papers allege that last January, 26-year old Ruben was transferred to the Sierra Vista Regional Medical Center due to a medical issue. Ms. Navarro went to visit him at the hospital where she was led to believe that Dr. Hootan Roozrokh was Ruben's "treating doctor". According to the complaint, he was actually working for a California organ-harvesting corporation.

Mother Alleges Doctor Murdered Her Handicapped Son to Harvest His Organs

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128 posted on 07/07/2007 6:38:40 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: T'wit
Seldane is an antihistamine introduced in 1985, useful for not causing drowsiness, and used by hundreds of millions of people worldwide. It can cause serious or fatal heart arrhythmias in certain very rare cases involving liver disease or interaction with erythromycin or anti-fungal drugs.

You must have forgotten about the study on 6 healthy volunteers taking Seldane and a common antifungal, which had to be stopped because 4 of the 6 developed dangerous arrhythmias. Here's some additional information for those interested. Do bear in mind that they were still finding out more about Seldane and Hismanal when this article was written. The more they found out, the more dangerous the drugs appeared, and they were finally withdrawn from the market. And if you want to trust that the drug companies reported every case, I have a nice bridge to sell you.

No way of knowing what caused Terri Schiavo's cardiac arrhythmia, of course. But you asked for possibilities, and I provided them.

129 posted on 07/07/2007 9:22:15 AM PDT by retMD
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To: retMD

Have a nice weekend, doc.


130 posted on 07/07/2007 9:27:12 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: retMD
>> No way of knowing what caused Terri Schiavo's cardiac arrhythmia, of course.

Maybe he'll confess.

131 posted on 07/07/2007 9:27:55 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: 8mmMauser; dsc; Macoraba; gizmogirl; voiceinthewind; Ross Jeffries; DieHard the Hunter; rogernz; ...
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Please ping me to all note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of interest.

132 posted on 07/07/2007 10:12:42 AM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: 8mmMauser

Cat bites? Yeah, right.

Why is it that DSS(insert your state’s idiot squad here) can find time to bother homeschoolers, harass custodial parents, but ARE INCAPABLE OF SAVING A CHILD?????

I hope little Jayla can heal, and is a good candidate for reconstructive surgery. I also hope those two so called “parents” do hard time.


133 posted on 07/07/2007 12:30:57 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Head Caterer for the FIRM)
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To: T'wit; 8mmMauser
She was killed, slain, murdered, assassinated, put to death, executed. They wouldn't even give her an ice chip to ease her agony.

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David Gibbs - Fighting for Dear Life (Part 3)

134 posted on 07/07/2007 12:50:44 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779

Thanks, bjs1779. That is powerful and it touches the good within any human heart. The torturers have no answer for there is no answer.


135 posted on 07/07/2007 1:12:40 PM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Perhaps this book review resembles feigning with damn praise. Liberals don't get it because they are incapable of absorbing what healthy people can understand, and just have no way of really understanding normal people. Sounds like the reviewer really tries to grasp the essence of this guy, Thor.

If there were a shelf at your local bookstore labeled "Thrillers for Republicans," Chicago's Brad Thor would take up his fair share of room.

~Snip~

The First Commandment -- in which Thor's recurring hero, a White House counterterrorism operative and former Navy SEAL named Scot Harvath, struggles to find a vicious terrorist targeting his family and friends -- rails against illegal immigration, puts a conservative spin on the Terri Schiavo right-to-die controversy and deplores both radical Muslims and the moderates who enable them.

~Snip~

He notes that he employs a Muslim nanny for his two young children, and, Harvath's views notwithstanding, has a living will that stipulates the author wouldn't want to be kept alive on wires and feeding tubes. But Thor (his real name, from an old Swedish family) sticks to his guns on what he sees as the rising tide of Islamic terrorism, the fundamentalist ideology that he says inspires it, and the need for the harshest possible tactics in response.

Brad Thor subdues the 'monster under the bed'... CHICAGO LIT | In his latest political thriller, Thor tortures a terrorist and, once again, charms the GOP

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136 posted on 07/08/2007 4:21:13 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee; bjs1779; T'wit; amdgmary
This just came in, complete with video clip about a lady touting the joys of dying, via the social in-crowd of the Hemlock Society. Well, it is not anymore the Hemlock Society, we learn, as that sounds too harsh, but more gentle, perhaps in the George Bush use of "compassionate." It is now Compassion and Choices. Wow, how fun can it get?

Don't miss the video...

Marcelle Jones has thought a lot about how her life might end. She has been treated for a serious medical problem for several years, and while it has not gotten worse, eventually "it's going to get me," said Jones, 82.

Long before she moved to Lakeland in 1990, Jones had joined the Hemlock Society - now known as Compassion and Choices - an organization that provides information about how terminally ill people can end their lives, either through passive means or, if they choose, by suicide.

Lakeland Woman Considers Suicide Once Illness Turns Terminal

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137 posted on 07/08/2007 5:05:45 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
There is an article from the New York Times, which mentions Terri but I am not about to find out what it says, as it requires a subscription to find out how Scooter Libby contrasts to Terri. But maybe I can guess, can only presume their expertise in cowardice...

A Profile in Cowardice

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138 posted on 07/08/2007 5:10:42 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
Good morning. Server has been down so I've been offline a while, and will need to do other things before I can return.

On the other hand, I have seen a miracle this morning, sort of! That puts me in the mood to believe just about anything except Michael Schiavo being innocent because Terri collapsed of some impossibly rare malady right when he was asphyxiating her.

My local "miracle" was a PARROT at our sunflower seeder. Lime green plumage, ivory breast, some blue feathering apparently on the wings. The bleeping thing flew off an instant before I could get my camera on it. All I got was a fuzzy picture of its disappearing hind end; all the fuzzier because I took it through a window screen. But, I do have another witness. The mistress of the house saw it too. The bird had to be an escapee; this is way too far from its range for an accidental.

139 posted on 07/08/2007 6:23:08 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: T'wit
"relax and be friendlier toward others"

Ironic advice, coming from a person with your tagline.

140 posted on 07/08/2007 7:10:51 AM PDT by kozokey
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