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U.S. Dispatches Two Battalions To Al Anbar In Emergency Move To Battle Al Qaeda
patdollard ^ | 6/29/07 | Pat Dollard

Posted on 06/30/2007 8:43:56 PM PDT by bnelson44

Breaking: U.S. Dispatches Two Battalions To Al Anbar In Emergency Move To Battle Al Qaeda’s Revenge Mission Against Sunni Tribes

You won’t find this story anywhere in the MSM. But my military sources in Baghdad and elsewhere have confirmed to me that 1. beginning yesterday, Thursday, July 28th, two U.S. battalions began moving into Al Anbar to hunt Al Qaeda members smuggled out of Baghdad through Fallujah and Ramadi, and 2. that Al Qaeda has launched not so much a military campaign to retake Al Anbar, but a revenge campaign against its Sunni denizens, and most specifically its denizens’ Sheiks, who routed them out of the province and into a few mixed Sunni/Shiite areas in and around Baghdad. Al Qaeda harbors the illusion that by kiling the Sheiks, it will be able to subjugate the entire Sunni population of the huge province, and govern it as a separte Al Qaeda Sharia state. This is a fool’s game. Al Qaeda doesn’t have the numbers to pull it off, and the only reason it thrived in Al Anbar in the first placeis because the locals gave them cover from the hunting U.S. forces, as well as other vital forms of support. But as often happens when one lacks many other options, Al Qaeda is throwing out logic and merely acting in revenge, and acting to chase an impossible dream. So far, a few more Sunni sheiks have been murdered since the hotel bombing. They will not last by making the Sunnis their enemies, because they ultimately lack the numbers and force to subjugate them. There will be bloodshed, but they can only lose.

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KEYWORDS: alanbar; alqaeda; alqaedainiraq; iraq; oif
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1 posted on 06/30/2007 8:43:59 PM PDT by bnelson44
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To: bnelson44
beginning yesterday, Thursday, July 28th


2 posted on 06/30/2007 8:52:09 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: bnelson44

Still sticking to the Zarqawi playbook.


3 posted on 06/30/2007 8:53:20 PM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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If the pic and the story match that’s gunna be those guys
that have been southwest-west of Baghdad,,,Strykers,,,
close ones by the map...
4 posted on 06/30/2007 9:03:25 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: bnelson44; Ernest_at_the_Beach

My turn to ping you!!!


5 posted on 06/30/2007 9:07:24 PM PDT by SierraWasp (SIERRA REPUBLIC!!! (our 51st united state)(all of CA excluding coastal counties))
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To: bnelson44

Is this guy a good source? I’m thinking too if he is he may have harmed OPSEC too.


6 posted on 06/30/2007 9:09:03 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Democrats even want foreign terrorists to be treated like US citizens.)
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To: SierraWasp; bnelson44; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Diogenesis; potlatch; devolve; ntnychik; ...

7 posted on 06/30/2007 9:15:42 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: elhombrelibre

He tends to honor OPSEC and he tends to be reliable. This info is at least 3 days old.


8 posted on 06/30/2007 9:15:58 PM PDT by bnelson44 (http://www.appealforcourage.org)
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To: bnelson44

I never worry about asking a stupid question on FR, and this one is really stupid: how large is a battalion?


9 posted on 06/30/2007 9:23:13 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: bnelson44
He tends to honor OPSEC and he tends to be reliable. This info is at least 3 days old.

yesterday, Thursday, July 28th

You are mistaken. Not only has he gravely harmed OPSEC by disclosing an operation nearly a month before it was going to occur, he has even revealed the existence of time machines. :O

10 posted on 06/30/2007 9:28:05 PM PDT by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: hsalaw

Not a stupid question at all.

In the old days (’80s lol) a grunt btn (USMC) was 3 infantry companies with 1 HQ company and 1 weapons company.

An infantry company was 3 rifle platoons and one weapons platoon.

A platoon was 3 squads of 13 men each (weapons platoons may have differed in number) The weapons platoon for the grunt company was made up of general purpose machine gun sections, light (60mm) mortar sections and anti-tank/demolitions assault sections. The AT section used LAAWS rockets and demolitions.

Weapons company was 1 platoon of 81mm mortars and 1 platoon of Dragon wire-guided, anti-tank missiles.

Iirc, the usual roster was somewhere around 500 to 560 men.

I have no clue how the US Army did it and no clue how it’s done today.


11 posted on 06/30/2007 9:44:40 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: SierraWasp

Thanks!


12 posted on 06/30/2007 9:49:52 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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"yesterday, Thursday, July 28th"

LOL! It is a typo. He wrote it on June 29th and was referring to June 28th. It is now July 1st there.

13 posted on 06/30/2007 9:51:02 PM PDT by bnelson44 (http://www.appealforcourage.org)
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To: Grimmy

Many thanks for the helpful info.


14 posted on 06/30/2007 9:51:06 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: coloradan

Also, his contacts tend to be in the PAO


15 posted on 06/30/2007 9:51:35 PM PDT by bnelson44 (http://www.appealforcourage.org)
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To: hsalaw; Grimmy

It the Army it depends a lot of the type of battalion it is. Here is a very general guideline from About.com:

Squad - 9 to 10 soldiers. Typically commanded by a sergeant or staff sergeant, a squad or section is the smallest element in the Army structure, and its size is dependent on its function.

Platoon - 16 to 44 soldiers. A platoon is led by a lieutenant with an NCO as second in command, and consists of two to four squads or sections.

Company - 62 to 190 soldiers. Three to five platoons form a company, which is commanded by a captain with a first sergeant as the commander’s principle NCO assistant. An artillery unit of equivalent size is called a battery, and a comparable armored or air cavalry unit is called a troop.

Battalion - 300 to 1,000 soldiers. Four to six companies make up a battalion, which is normally commanded by a lieutenant colonel with a command sergeant major as principle NCO assistant. A battalion is capable of independent operations of limited duration and scope. An armored or air cavalry unit of equivalent size is called a squadron.

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/army/l/blchancommand.htm


16 posted on 06/30/2007 9:57:53 PM PDT by bnelson44 (http://www.appealforcourage.org)
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Thanks for the very helpful analysis. So, two battalions could be from 600 to 2000 soldiers. That helps me understand this article.


17 posted on 06/30/2007 10:05:16 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: hsalaw

The key sentance is: “A battalion is capable of independent operations of limited duration and scope”

A general can send a battalion off on a mission like this to protect a number of Shieks in an area as large as al-Anbar.


18 posted on 06/30/2007 10:10:25 PM PDT by bnelson44 (http://www.appealforcourage.org)
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To: hsalaw

... a battalion of about 700 soldiers and nearly 100 Stryker vehicles
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grabbed that in a search,,,should be close to that...X 2...


19 posted on 06/30/2007 10:14:38 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: bnelson44

So, it’s not just numbers; it’s the capability of the unit (if “unit” is the right word) to perform whatever the operation is? On another note, it’s good to hear more and more reports of local leaders like these sheiks cooperating with us rather than watching from the sidelines or engaged actively against us.


20 posted on 06/30/2007 10:16:29 PM PDT by hsalaw
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