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Supreme Court Will Hear Case on Detainees (Guantanamo)
NY Times ^ | June 29, 2007 | WILLIAM GLABERSON

Posted on 06/29/2007 2:48:03 PM PDT by neverdem

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21 posted on 06/29/2007 6:40:08 PM PDT by do the dhue (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I wont - George S. Patton Jr)
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To: neverdem

Sounds like Kennedy finally waffled out on this one. My hunch is that Scalia, Thomas, Roberts and Alito will all vote the right way on this one but that Kennedy will flake off. I hope he doesn’t, but we’ll see.


22 posted on 06/29/2007 7:10:45 PM PDT by SConservative
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
The Rule of Four applies to the Court accepting any case for certiorari. If four Justices vote to take any case, the Court must take that case.

However, the decisions of the last few days indicate that Justice Kennedy has decided to join the sane wing of the Court. If so, the taking of this case is meaningless. Furthermore, the Court would have to ignore the Constitution, ignore the Court's own prior cases, and a statute of Congress in order to grant any relief to the terrorists who are seeking help here.

I don't think the Court as a whole is that stupid. Though I would not be surprised if the vote in the case is 5-4 against the terrorists.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, "Duke is Not Off the Hook"

23 posted on 06/29/2007 7:26:21 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Please promote Dr. Sowell's words, at Duke.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

5-4 .... for a realistic reading of the written law.

Sobering.


24 posted on 06/29/2007 7:29:52 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
"the Court would have to ignore the Constitution, ignore the Court's own prior cases, and a statute of Congress... "

Business as usual for our robed masters...

However, one sign that the court is going to take the constitutional view of the president's power over these scum is the rumor that Gitmo is going to be closed down. I don't think Bush would be doing that otherwise.
It's served as a valuable haven while the courts, legislature and public comprehended the difference between alien criminals and alien illegal combatants.

25 posted on 06/29/2007 7:35:21 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: neverdem

naval station on a scrubby corner of Cuba
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

What does a scrubby corner mean?


26 posted on 06/30/2007 12:00:17 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: wardaddy; Joe Brower; Cannoneer No. 4; Criminal Number 18F; Dan from Michigan; Eaker; Jeff Head; ...
Casting Terrorists as Defenders of the Constitution

Craig Crawford's Trail Mix: Coulter Flap Highlights Fairness Doctrine Debate

Warnings from Gaza (Newt Gingrich: World War IV)

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27 posted on 06/30/2007 12:57:45 AM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: holdonnow

My slight intuition tells me you might just address this on Monday. Are you familiar with Erwin Chemerinsky? A real piece of work, that guy.


28 posted on 06/30/2007 1:18:52 AM PDT by IslandJeff (Repeal the 17th Amendment - We The People)
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To: CindyDawg

To the Kurds.


29 posted on 06/30/2007 3:07:18 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: doug from upland
naval station on a scrubby corner of Cuba +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ What does a scrubby corner mean?

Not tbe best real estate? Obstructed view? Zoned commercial? ;-)

30 posted on 06/30/2007 3:43:39 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: neverdem
There's a disconnect here that I don't know how to resolve...

If the SCOTUS has jurisdiction, then why shouldn't US law apply? If US laws don't apply, then why are the SCOTUS ruling relevant?

If they've agreed to hear this case on behalf of enemy combatants, it seems they've already decided they have jurisdiction. If they've agreed to hear the case relative to charges that the executive in engaging in illegal detention, then perhaps not.

"Lawyers for many of the 375 men now held at the naval station on a scrubby corner of Cuba greeted the unexpected news with euphoria. "

That's what the smell of $200/hour over 5 years of public reimbursement feels like.

31 posted on 06/30/2007 4:16:53 AM PDT by elfman2 (An army of amateurs doing the media's job.)
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To: neverdem

bump


32 posted on 06/30/2007 4:24:46 AM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Hmmmm...Stevens,Breyer,Soutter,Ginsburg.....

And Kennedy I guess. Pretty disgusting. But it's probably time to see if we really are ready to surrender to the terrorists. And I guess the Constitution really is a suicide pact.

33 posted on 06/30/2007 5:15:58 AM PDT by ReleaseTheHounds ("You ask, 'What is our aim?' I can answer in one word: VICTORY - victory - at all costs...")
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To: doug from upland
the naval station on a scrubby corner of Cuba

We keepin' dem po men out in da bushes. In da scrubby place, ya know. Ain't got no nuttin out dere. In danger from roaches, and scorpions, and snakes out in dem scrubby bushes. Dey's tied to a stake wid leg irons and chains.

It's awful in dat scrubby corner of Cuba.

34 posted on 06/30/2007 5:46:19 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: colorado tanker
The justices don't say why they vote for cert. It might be just because they think the issue has become so important the Court ought to speak to it, even if they perceive no error in the case below.

Except when there is a disagreement between federal circuits on how to interpret a specific law, the Supreme Court almost always grants cert to reverse the lower appellate court.

35 posted on 06/30/2007 5:53:13 AM PDT by berserker
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


36 posted on 06/30/2007 6:51:25 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: neverdem
The SC said they would review whether they get fed court reviews but they are not reviewing each case or the so-called merits of the case.
37 posted on 06/30/2007 8:28:41 AM PDT by tobyhill (only wimps believe in retreat in defeat)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
There's nothing more painful than watching inept republicans ignore the political opportunities handed to them daily by democrats.

Every day they should run ads saying:

"while are troops are battling terrorists in WWIII, teams of Democrat ACLU trial lawyers represent terrorists in court FOR FREE, in hopes of getting them released so they can kill more Americans, maybe your wife and children."

38 posted on 06/30/2007 9:45:32 AM PDT by T. Jefferson
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To: SConservative
From the Times:

>>Yesterday's reversal by the Supreme Court suggested that Justic Anthony M. Kennedy, who opposed hearing the case in April, had changed his position. Although the vote tally for yesterday's decision was not released, there have been indications that Justice Kennedy's position on this case has been pivotal. But lawyers said it was not possible to predict how he might eventually vote in what could be a divisive issue on the court.

39 posted on 06/30/2007 11:33:01 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: Congressman Billybob

Have to agree. This will ultimately end 5-4 against the terrorists.


40 posted on 06/30/2007 12:36:39 PM PDT by Diplomat
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