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Giuliani claims centrist position
Captains Quarters | 6/29/2007 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 06/29/2007 5:36:36 AM PDT by Neville72

Rudy Giuliani either has given up attempting to sound conservative or has forgotten that all presidential primary politics is national in today's media environment. While trying to woo Californians, Rudy claimed that he would govern in the same manner as Arnold Schwarzenegger has in the Golden State -- a promise that may not thrill Republicans in or out of California:

Mayor Giuliani is telling California voters wondering what kind of president he would make that they need to look no further than their popular Republican governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger.

"I governed very much like your governor does," Mr. Giuliani said as he described his tenure as mayor of New York from 1994 to 2001. "I got results and I want people to look at that and say that's the way I would govern as president of the United States. I would get results," he said.

In a deft bit of political footwork, Mr. Giuliani managed to declare himself simpatico with the governor without actually specifying any of the issues where the two men hold similar views. Some of those stances, such as support for abortion rights and gay rights, antagonize large swaths of the Republican base in the Golden State and across the country.

Rudy has spent a lot of time and effort to burnish his conservative credentials on the campaign trail. He has tried to argue that his position on abortion represents a small area of disagreement in comparison to a wide range on agreement with conservatives, with middling success. Giuliani argues -- and George Will supports him on this point -- that Giuliani provided the most conservative government possible in New York City, and he's almost certainly correct.

However, Rudy threatens to undermine that by hitching his wagon to the Governator. Arnold has done very well for himself in California, but no one confuses him with a conservative, not even the state's GOP. He has opted to work closer with the Democrats and has become the same kind of big-government Republican that many accuse George Bush of popularizing.

In California, as in New York City, that's the only kind of Republican that can get elected to an executive office. That doesn't mean that the rest of the Republicans around the country want to elect them, however, and Rudy may be making a mistake by reinforcing the impression that he's so far out of step with conservatives in the party. He could find himself positioned well for a general election that he'll never reach.

Addendum: The Democrats have decided to really get personal and nasty early in this campaign. Josh Gerstein reports that a group of them protested outside Rudy's event -- by pointing out that Rudy married his second cousin. They couldn't even get within six months of a primary without getting classless.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: autocrat; giuliani; gungrabber; julieannie; rudyisaliberal; rudyisaloser; schwarzenegger

1 posted on 06/29/2007 5:36:36 AM PDT by Neville72
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To: Neville72

So what else is new?


2 posted on 06/29/2007 5:39:16 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: Neville72

LOL. Just think, too months ago there was a huge battle here over wether or not Giuliani was a conservative. I wonder if all those who were insisting that he was feel stupid now.


3 posted on 06/29/2007 5:40:15 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Neville72
Can this party really afford another “compassionate conservative”?

I think not.

4 posted on 06/29/2007 5:40:29 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: Neville72

Centrist position?

Not necesssarily. In most issues, he’s seems to be more liberal than most liberal Democrats.

Sorry, I used to like the guy, but he’s not the right one for President.


5 posted on 06/29/2007 5:41:06 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Neville72

Giuliani would be in the center of the Democrats!


6 posted on 06/29/2007 5:43:53 AM PDT by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: Neville72
While trying to woo Californians, Rudy claimed that he would govern in the same manner as Arnold Schwarzenegger

Rooty, you truly are a moron.

Now go just away and......


Go Home And Get Your Shine Box.

7 posted on 06/29/2007 5:44:01 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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To: Rodney King
LOL. Just think, too months ago there was a huge battle here over wether or not Giuliani was a conservative. I wonder if all those who were insisting that he was feel stupid now.

I don't they are smart enough to understand feeling stupid.

8 posted on 06/29/2007 5:45:23 AM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: Neville72

A rose by any other name still smells like $h!t.


9 posted on 06/29/2007 5:46:31 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: Neville72; Liz; calcowgirl; indylindy; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; 007girl

By golly, you are right! Rudy is in the center!

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10 posted on 06/29/2007 5:49:54 AM PDT by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Well at least this time Roody is being truthful in claiming “centrism”.

That’s a liberal that won’t admit it IMO.


11 posted on 06/29/2007 5:51:15 AM PDT by Sir Hailstone (Graduate of Archie Bunker's School of Conservatism. . . . [http://digitalfarmers.blogspot.com])
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To: Neville72

12 posted on 06/29/2007 5:53:56 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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To: TommyDale

LOL. Hes definitely in the centrist position there!

I see he has his little ankle biting Ho Pup checking for runs in his pantyhose!


13 posted on 06/29/2007 5:54:56 AM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: Neville72

Here’s a picture of a centrist:

http://www.allfunpix.com/humor/pics/possum.jpg


14 posted on 06/29/2007 6:00:47 AM PDT by 109ACS (Humpty Dumpty was pushed!)
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To: Neville72

He’s done.


15 posted on 06/29/2007 6:02:29 AM PDT by Anonymous Rex ( For Rent)
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To: TommyDale

That is to say, the extreme left to the far left of center (snicker).


16 posted on 06/29/2007 6:34:25 AM PDT by Liz (It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. Voltaire)
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To: Neville72

G will claim anything if he thinks it’ll help him.


17 posted on 06/29/2007 6:44:46 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: TommyDale; indylindy

Ho Pup....hahahahaa!


18 posted on 06/29/2007 7:19:33 AM PDT by 007girl
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To: Neville72
Mayor Giuliani is telling California voters wondering what kind of president he would make that they need to look no further than their popular Republican governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger. "I governed very much like your governor does" Mr. Giuliani said ... In a deft bit of political footwork, Mr. Giuliani managed to declare himself simpatico with the governor without actually specifying any of the issues where the two men hold similar views.

In other news:

Schwarzenegger faces revolt by GOP in Capitol

SACRAMENTO — Their uneasy coexistence with Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger now at the lowest point in his tenure, Republican state lawmakers are rebelling in increasingly public ways over administration efforts both big and small.

As Republicans still reel over Schwarzenegger's partnership with Democrats last year to enact curbs on greenhouse gas emissions, the governor is now championing a healthcare plan they say will be disastrous for the state's economy.

"The governor, contrary to popular Sacramento mythology, has been growing government more rapidly than Gray Davis did during his administration," said Assemblyman Chuck DeVore (R-Irvine). He pointed to a report from the nonpartisan Legislative Analyst's Office that projects a shortfall of more than $6 billion by next year under Schwarzenegger's plan. "What we are trying to do is exercise a modest bit of fiscal responsibility," DeVore said.


19 posted on 06/29/2007 8:27:47 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: TommyDale

Is this a real picture? What’s the little stuffed animal supposed to be doing, or should I ask?


20 posted on 06/29/2007 8:29:55 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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