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Dubya's End
New York Post ^ | June 29, 2007 | John Podhoretz

Posted on 06/29/2007 4:14:31 AM PDT by Truth29

DUBYA'S END

BORDER BILL THE LAST BLOW

June 29, 2007 -- PRESIDENT Bush's disastrous second term has not been without its moments. Unfortunately for him, these moments have come primarily when members of his own party have risen up against him to defy his wishes. That's what happened yesterday. For the second time in four weeks, Republicans in the Senate put a stake through the heart of Bush's beloved but politically catastrophic immigration bill.

It's also what happened in the early months of the second term, when Bush chose to nominate his unqualified aide, Harriet Miers, to the Supreme Court - and finally backed down and had her withdraw her name after three weeks of lobbying and complaining.

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He would not and could not back down on immigration reform, an issue far too close to his heart. But after the Senate first rejected the bill at the end of May, Bush could have left it alone and accepted defeat. He could have seen reason, as he did in January 2004 when he first proposed a piece of legislation and was met with an uprising from his conservative base - whereupon he prudently dropped the subject because he was running for re-election and needed a united and enthusiastic Republican electorate behind him.

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And perhaps most interesting, Bush chose to believe it was more important to court potential future Republican voters - those illegals who would have gained a "path to citizenship" under the terms of the bill in 13 years' time - rather than listen to the concerns of present-day Republican voters.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amnesty; bush43; deathofthegop; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; podhoretz; politicalcaptial; term2; vampirebill; victory
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To: don-o
I am a professional Estimator. I know estimating. Estimating is not applicable to the current POTUS.

By his fruits he shall be known. Some good. Some bad.

Did he protect us from the reach & province of the International Criminal Court? Yes.
Did he keep us from the Kyoto mess that is currently tying up Europe? Yes.
Did he create a workable alternative to Kyoto that other countries have embraced? Yes. Bet you didn’t know that!
Have US Carbon Emissions decreased on his watch, without Kyoto? Yes.
Did he submit a comprehensive energy plan that got killed by a weak congress? Yes.
Has he lowered the deficit ahead of schedule in time of war? Yes. Even the NYTimes admits it!
Did he cut taxes? Twice? Yes. And yes.
Did he try to get the cuts made permanent? Yes. Congress dropped that ball.
Did he stop government funding of EMBRYONIC stem cell research? Yes.
Has he kept the promises he made as he held a dead cop’s shield before the Joint Houses? Yes.
Did he go after the Taliban and AlQaeda in Afghanistan barely a month after 9/11? Yes.
Has he been unflagging in his efforts to subdue terrorism, worldwide? Yes.
Has be been the consistent voice for human liberty around the globe? Yes.
After some serious missteps, is the surge working? Yes.
Has he been a staunch friend to Israel, the only stable democracy in a frantic region? Yes.
Did he end the farce of world-wide Arafat admiration? Yes
Did he remove Saddam Hussein, whose state supported terrorists, from power? Yes.
Did he invade Iraq at a time when the whole world believed Saddam had and “would use” WMD? Yes.
Did he bring a much-maligned coalition with him? Yes. Some are still there.
Did he liberate 50,000 people in keeping with the ideals of the 1998 Iraqi Liberation Act? Yes.
Has he inspired the Iraqi people to finally believe enough in freedom to fight AlQaeda with us? YES!
Has he figured out that a free and engaged Middle East makes America safer? Yes.
Has he kept you safe since 9/11? So safe that you’ve almost forgotten to fear? Yes.
Did he remove “the wall” between the CIA and the FBI? Yes.
Did he go to the UN before invading Iraq? Yes.
Did he tell the UN that the US would never ask permission to defend herself? Yes.
Did he inspire Libya to surrender it’s WMD without firing a shot? Yes.
Did he appoint excellent SCOTUS and Federal Judges to the bench? Yes.
Did he implement the NSA terrorist eavesdropping program? Yes.
Did he immediately move to freeze assets and make terror funding more difficult? Yes.
Did he reform Medicare? Yes.
Did he reform Social Security to give you more power over your money? He tried. See Congress.
Did he manage an economy thru recession, terror attack & war w/ consistent gains for over ten quarters? Yes.
Has he kept unemployment between 5.5% and 4.4% for an impressive period? Yes.
Does he say what he means and mean what he says? Yes.
Did he try to address immigration last year, when the houses in his party? Yes.
Does he support the second amendment? Yes.
Does he support school vouchers and school choice? Yes.
Did he sign the ban on Partial Birth Abortion? Yes. It went to court, but he signed it.
Did he reverse Clinton’s intent to kill Reagan’s pro-life Mexico policy? Yes.
Did he support the Defense of Marriage Act? Yes. That used to be vitally important to you.
Did he expand the roles of faith-based organizations in social programs? Yes.
Did he prosecute the white-collar criminals like Ken Lay who ran riot through the ‘90’s? Yes.
Has he handled himself with enormous courage, dignity and grace in the face of world/media/hate?
Is he a man with a creed before he’s anything else? Yes.
Did he establish Health Savings accounts? Yes.
Did he have the Border Patrol installing monitoring devices along the borders? Yes.
Has he made mistakes? Yes. Some undeniable beauts.
Has he been an imperfect president? Yes.
Has he spent too much? Probably.
Has he given you most of what you’ve wanted? Actually, looking at the list…yes!
Has he dared to disagree with anyone to keep his principles, even you? Yes.

Has he really been your Judas? Has he really betrayed you?

Did he ever question your patriotism, or tell you you were a bad person? No, actually, he didn’t.

Go read his remarks in context, instead of looking at one sentence blared at you by the very media you distrust.

Be intellectually honest enough to admit that in this immigration controversy there are (sadly) some who are using fear to move their agenda, and there are some (only some, but they hurt us all) who reveal bigotry in their rants. You needn’t be offended if you can remember that there are those “somes” in every group; conservatives have no corner of perfection.

You actually do have a choice as to how you receive what you hear, see and read, just as you have a choice as to how you receive a good, that is, with “open” or “closed” heart.

And ask yourself : is it reasonable to worry about the soul of a nation while contemplating big questions of life/liberty/enforcement issues for human beings, including children, and when you’re discussing ideas like “raids” and “surveillance” (that will affect not just “illegals” and their employers, but average people who are just passing by) and when deciding just how broad or harsh measures should or can be when dealing with a problem of huge scope and size?

241 posted on 06/29/2007 8:13:11 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: dirtboy

It is over boy and you won! As for your Mexican wife, was her parents ever illegal when they came across? Did you report them??

Pray for W and Our Troops


242 posted on 06/29/2007 8:17:22 AM PDT by bray (Free the Hidatha 8)
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To: bray
HilaryCare and her 60 vote majority will push something through that the Bushaters will love.

Amen! And THAT is the bottom line..the end all.

And the GOP will be wandering the political desert for another 40 years.

243 posted on 06/29/2007 8:18:54 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: ichabod1; monkapotamus
And McConnell looks like a cartoon turtle.

An over-the-hill ninja mutant Senator?

244 posted on 06/29/2007 8:19:04 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: bray
It is over boy and you won! As for your Mexican wife, was her parents ever illegal when they came across? Did you report them??

Boy, aren't you the racist? Just because my wife was Mexican, it means her parents could have been illegal?

Her family always lived in Arizona. Her ancestors lived there before it was American territory.

245 posted on 06/29/2007 8:20:06 AM PDT by dirtboy (Impeach Chertoff and Gonzales. We can't wait until 2009 for them to be gone.)
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To: SolidWood

My question is, who is the real conservative that you plan on voting for? Will it be the guy from New York who believes in a woman’s right to have an abortion? Or what about the one who is a Mormon who you know couldn’t get at least half of the Christian Vote, not even if we told them it would get Hillary Clinton elected, or better yet, what about the Hollywood actor who looks like he is married inapporpriately to a woman who looks young enough to be his grand-daughter with Double-D-sized implants? (I’m not blaming a woman for being large chested, but I do have a problem with someone who obviously looks like she has had a boob job, especially when the husband is trying to get us to take him seriously as a conservative) Which is it? I’m waiting for an answer, cause I know what ever you say is going to be REAL interesting.


246 posted on 06/29/2007 8:20:11 AM PDT by rodeo-mamma
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

ROFL!!!


247 posted on 06/29/2007 8:20:20 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: TaxxMann
I think in some twisted way, he thought the amnesty of the 25 million illegal aliens would FIX the SS problem.

Well...it sure has 'fixed' the deficit problem..so far.

248 posted on 06/29/2007 8:23:37 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: bray
Oh, yeah, and my wife's father, and every one of her uncles, served in the US military. And to think you raised the issue that they could have been illegals, when they were instead honorable American veterans.

Honor. Look it up. Maybe try it sometime.

249 posted on 06/29/2007 8:24:03 AM PDT by dirtboy (Impeach Chertoff and Gonzales. We can't wait until 2009 for them to be gone.)
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To: arbooz
Both Limbaugh and Hannity have their own agendas (primarily self-promotion), and neither one is particularly bright or honest.

You win the prize for the most ridiculous and stupid post of the day...so far.

250 posted on 06/29/2007 8:28:14 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Truth29

Your comment made me think, we need to be careful, perhaps all of this “agreement” that was going on between Kennedy and Bush was nothing more then a strategic move on the part of the Hillary’s election campaign, that being to break apart the conservative movement by causing friction in the base, it sounds like something the right out of the strategy book of Hillary’s, sucker in old Bush into thinking he can pass something that would piss off his base, thereby breaking apart the conservative base? Are we going to let them win on this one? This is why Hillary is SO dangerous, she ACTUALLY cooks stuff like this up!! It’s like dealing with PURE EVIL!!! You know what we need? A candidate who actually GETS IT!


251 posted on 06/29/2007 8:28:34 AM PDT by rodeo-mamma
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To: dirtboy

Look who’s pulling the race card now?? Didn’t take you long to call me a racist after you were so offended that I even mentioned it. Too Funny!!

Why would I ever think a Mexican would be from Mexico. What a racist I am. Too Funny!!

Pray for W and Our Troops


252 posted on 06/29/2007 8:29:11 AM PDT by bray (Free the Hidatha 8)
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To: ProCivitas

” While Jorge deserves a lot of criticism on this issue, it’s predictably bizarre to watch the leftistABC/NBC/CBSmedia describe this Kennedy alienamnesty bill as Bush’s initiative.

As always they’re trying to put up a smokescreen for the Demrats.”

Had the same thought this morning when reading the front page treatment in our local Florida paper.

This was a Kennedy boondoggle from the get go. W chose to ride that horse with him, and got thrown off............


253 posted on 06/29/2007 8:29:32 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: Renatus
re: When the Immigration Bill came up a second time I took his picture off my wall)))

In my very, very conservative area, I no longer see any faded "W" stickers anywhere. They've been scraped off.

254 posted on 06/29/2007 8:31:34 AM PDT by Mamzelle (We need a new, conservative chairman of the RNC first, because the elites are about to take revenge)
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To: bray
Look who’s pulling the race card now??

Whiney baby can dish it out but can't take it, apparently.

Why would I ever think a Mexican would be from Mexico

Please show me where I ever called her Mexican. I called her latina and hispanic (her nationality is American, and don't ever forget that.) You are the bigot who assumed that meant Mexican, and that her parents could have been illegals when instead her father served in the Air Force.

255 posted on 06/29/2007 8:32:24 AM PDT by dirtboy (Impeach Chertoff and Gonzales. We can't wait until 2009 for them to be gone.)
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To: bray

Not an answer.


256 posted on 06/29/2007 8:34:46 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: don-o
For Conservatives now, see Luna County Conservatives.
257 posted on 06/29/2007 8:35:04 AM PDT by tailgunner
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To: alicewonders
Suddenly I feel like putting on a kilt & painting my face blue.

Uh-huh. And we all remember the last couple of minutes of THAT movie, don't we?

/s

259 posted on 06/29/2007 8:36:49 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Texas Jack
The Failed Bush Administration!

Nah...that's ambiguous! (I.e., which one?)

260 posted on 06/29/2007 8:37:29 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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