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Cheney probed over salmon die off
Sacramento Bee Washington Bureau ^ | 11:46 am PDT Thursday, June 28, 2007 | David Whitney

Posted on 06/28/2007 1:50:22 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan

WASHINGTON - The House Natural Resources Committee announced Thursday that it will hold hearings into Vice President Dick Cheney's involvement in Klamath River water management that many think led to the die-off of more than 70,000 salmon four years ago.

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Three dozen House Democrats from Oregon and California asked for the hearing in a letter to Rahall after the Washington Post reported on details of Cheney's intervention.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; US: California; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: bds; cheney; congress; environazis; environment; envirowhackos; govwatch; healthypeople2010; klamath; loonyleft
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To: rfp1234

Are you now suffering from Salmonella???


121 posted on 06/28/2007 3:27:32 PM PDT by SierraWasp (SIERRA REPUBLIC!!! (our 51st united state)(all of CA excluding coastal counties))
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To: SierraWasp

I’m already high the cloture vote today, then found this thread. I can’t stop laughing!


122 posted on 06/28/2007 3:27:33 PM PDT by publana (Build the fence!)
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To: joebuck
I bet he did it on salmon enchanted evening.

That's a catchy little tuna.

I especially like listening to the "bass" player - his sign is Aquarium.

Last time I heard this song, it was at a dive called the Oyster Bar...

I went in just for the halibut, but I got kicked out - the bouncer was nothing but mussels.

Some of these jokes are just too deep...


123 posted on 06/28/2007 3:28:40 PM PDT by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: SierraWasp

—Are you now suffering from Salmonella???—

Not quite, just floundering.


124 posted on 06/28/2007 3:29:11 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Nothing is better than eternal happiness. A ham sandwich is better than nothing. Therefore...)
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To: rfp1234

Unh... That was 2/3rds of a PUN... PU!


125 posted on 06/28/2007 3:32:06 PM PDT by SierraWasp (SIERRA REPUBLIC!!! (our 51st united state)(all of CA excluding coastal counties))
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To: ElkGroveDan

This is all because Halliburton was given a no-bid contract to teach fish of all kinds to brush their teeth in order to promote defective Chinese radial tires.


126 posted on 06/28/2007 3:32:08 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (When Bubba lies, the finger flies!)
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To: publana

Same here! This is the second funniest thread I’ve ever seen on FR, so far...


127 posted on 06/28/2007 3:33:12 PM PDT by SierraWasp (SIERRA REPUBLIC!!! (our 51st united state)(all of CA excluding coastal counties))
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To: SierraWasp

TALKING SALMON

At the end of a long day, all the fisherman had caught was one small,
red salmon. He was about to kill it when the salmon shouted, “Wait,
I’m much too small!”

“Wow, a talking salmon,” the fisherman exclaimed, “What’s your name?”

“Rusty,” replied the salmon. “Please throw me back into the sea!”
The fisherman did so.

About a year later, the man was fishing the same spot when he again
caught Rusty! “Amazing,” exclaimed the fisherman, “What have you been
doing since I last caught you?”

“I’ve been sitting on the wreck of the good ship Titanic writing
poetry, it’s very inspirational there.”

The fisherman read some of the poems and was quite impressed. “These
should be published,” he said. “Have you thought of a title for
them?”

After some thought the fish said, “I’ll call them “Salmon Rusty’s
Titanic Verses.”

rimshot...groan


128 posted on 06/28/2007 3:33:25 PM PDT by Squidpup ("Fight the Good Fight")
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To: ElkGroveDan

Probe sounds fishy to me. (rimshot)


129 posted on 06/28/2007 3:35:07 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: wildbill; Squidpup

Oh... You guys!!!


130 posted on 06/28/2007 3:39:31 PM PDT by SierraWasp (SIERRA REPUBLIC!!! (our 51st united state)(all of CA excluding coastal counties))
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To: red-dawg

Very clever.


131 posted on 06/28/2007 3:40:52 PM PDT by synbad600
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To: rfp1234

Ha! Best pun so far!


132 posted on 06/28/2007 3:41:35 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (When Bubba lies, the finger flies!)
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To: Ingtar

“Because he intervened on behalf of the myriad family farms downstream and the investigation led to a more “natural” water flow being restored?”

Not true on three counts. The farms are largely corporate. They are upstream not downstream. A more “natural” water flow would result in no water to these farms.

Loss of these fish severely damaged the small business based economy of the Oregon coast and the fallout from this contributed to the entire takeover of the OR legislature by the Demos last year.It will be years before we recover from this fiasco.
Again, another case of Republicans shooting ourselves in the foot.


133 posted on 06/28/2007 3:47:58 PM PDT by rogator
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To: ElkGroveDan
As a person born and raised on that river, I personally don’t believe that the water temperature or level had anything to do with it. At that time there were big raids going on up the river on Meth houses and I believe someone got scared and dumped all their chemicals into the river. This is just my own theory, not gospel.
134 posted on 06/28/2007 3:50:42 PM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: ElkGroveDan; Jeff Head

ping


135 posted on 06/28/2007 3:57:31 PM PDT by Darnright (Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Cheney, You Magnificant Bastard!

Am I the first with that line?

136 posted on 06/28/2007 3:57:33 PM PDT by SmithL (si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: ElkGroveDan; Jeff Head

Lets ping the expert!


137 posted on 06/28/2007 3:59:36 PM PDT by Eaker (Free The Texas 3 - Ramos, Compean and Hernandez)
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To: Grampa Dave

“Federal Court Says Endangered Species Listing Of Klamath Coho Is Bogus”

This is a totally seperate issue. The species involved in the big low water dieoff were Chinook not Coho.
(For the benefit of those posting here who don’t know the difference, a Coho compares to a Chinook, as a chicken compares to a turkey.)


138 posted on 06/28/2007 4:03:58 PM PDT by rogator
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To: fish hawk

“As a person born and raised on that river, I personally don’t believe that the water temperature or level had anything to do with it. At that time there were big raids going on up the river on Meth houses and I believe someone got scared and dumped all their chemicals into the river. This is just my own theory, not gospel.”

I think it’s more likely that they dumped kool aid into the river.


139 posted on 06/28/2007 4:06:33 PM PDT by rogator
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To: ElkGroveDan

From the fws.gov site from the study of 2002:

“Q. What are the report’s major findings?

A. Several factors — none unprecedented — combined to create conditions that led to an outbreak of two fish pathogens, Ich and columnaris. Those conditions included a large run of fall-run Chinook salmon; a high density of fish in the lower river, and relatively low flows and high temperatures. For unknown reasons, fish began arriving in the Klamath River system one to two weeks earlier than normal. But because of a lack of rainfall or freshwater pulses, the fish did not receive cues to begin their upstream migration. Because of the heavy congregation of fish, the pathogen outbreaks spread swiftly.

Q. How important were flows or water quality to the fish die-off?

A. High water temperatures were conducive to the rapid spread of the pathogens, further stressing salmon that were preparing to spawn. But the temperatures were not unprecedented and were within the range of temperatures that have occurred historically on the river when no die-offs occurred. Other water-quality factors, such as dissolved oxygen and pH, were within accepted limits for survival of migrating salmon.

The year 2002 was classified as a dry year in the Klamath watershed. Average monthly flows in August and September 2002 were the fifth lowest in the period from 1978 to 2002. The combination of low flows and high run size contributed to the outbreak of the Ich and columnaris pathogens. The low flows resulted in lower river volume, lower water velocities and low water turnover rate in the deep pools where salmon hold over while waiting to migrate upstream.

Q. Did environmental contaminants or a release of toxic substances have a role in the die-off?

A. Based upon water and fish tissue samples, as well as the fact that only some species of fish and age classes of fish died, the Service does not believe that environmental contaminants were a causative factor.”


140 posted on 06/28/2007 4:10:21 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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