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Still early (yes, I know the next cloture vote is just tomorrow), but it looks at though the "24 eligible amendments" are being voted down one by one.

Hoping enough senators are going to be so disgusted that their pet amendment goes down in flames, they'll switch their votes.

1 posted on 06/27/2007 2:39:45 PM PDT by Baladas
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To: Baladas
Without her return-home amendment, Hutchison said, "the amnesty tag that has been put on this bill will remain. It is the key issue in the bill for the American people."

Is she kidding? THE key issue? I think it is granting legal status to millions of people immediately, not some return-home deal.

2 posted on 06/27/2007 2:42:23 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: Baladas
I was watching this coup on the American Public on C-span this afternoon and thought it would not be such a bad thing if a meteor crashed into the Capitol.

As long as the handful of patriots there got out first!
3 posted on 06/27/2007 2:45:06 PM PDT by elizabetty (Perpetual Candidate using campaign donations for your salary - Its a good gig if you can get it.)
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To: Baladas

The Liberal ones will pass, the conservative ones will be voted down. A horrible bill will get even worse.


4 posted on 06/27/2007 2:46:21 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Baladas
It will allow votes only on a limited list of 26 amendments before a critical test-vote on the bill Thursday.

Wonder if any attempt has been made to correct the sickening list of outrageous holes that riddle this monstrous shamnesty horror?

Senate Proposal is Full of Holes

Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) has been a stalwart proponent of curbing illegal immigration and reforming the legal immigration apparatus in a truly meaningful manner. To that end, on June 4, in the middle of the first round of floor debate on the so-called “grand bargain” listing egregious loopholes in the proposal, including “flaws effecting border security, chain-migration and assimilation policies.”

In prefacing the list, Sen. Sessions indicated that he is “deeply concerned about the numerous loopholes found in this legislation,” which he sees as “more than technical errors, but rather symptoms of a fundamentally flawed piece of legislation that stands no chance of actually fixing our broken immigration system.”

Furthermore, Sen. Sessions said, “Many of the loopholes are indicative of a desire not to have the system work.”

Flaw No. 1

Sen. Sessions pointed to perhaps the biggest flaw by noting that the “ ‘enforcement trigger’ fails to require the U.S. VISIT system – the biometric border check-in/check-out system established by Congress in 1996, but never implemented – to be fully functioning before new worker or amnesty programs begin. Without the system in place, the U.S. has no method of ensuring that workers and their families do not overstay their visas.”

Flaw No. 2

While most Americans tell pollsters they want less immigration, this bill dramatically increases overall immigration.

It TRIPLES chain migration through the year 2016 – all the while sanctioning a mass importation of low-skill foreign workers and, by extension, a mass importation of poverty into this country.

Flaw No. 3

Illegal aliens get “legal status before enforcement” begins.

Flaw No. 4

The “triggers” require “no more agents, beds, or fencing than current law” mandates.b

Flaw No. 5

The completion of background checks, including checks against criminal and terrorist databases, is “not required for” the granting of amnesty (in this bill, it is referred to as “probationary status”).

Flaw No. 6

Criminals of all kinds –[covering “more than 636,000 fugitives”]) including gang members, some child molesters, and absconders (i.e., “aliens who have already had their day in court [and who are now] subject to…removal” are eligible for the bill’s mass amnesty

Flaw No. 7

“Illegal aliens with terrorism connections are not barred from getting amnesty. An illegal alien seeking most immigration benefits must merely show ‘good moral character.’”

Flaw No. 8

Illegal aliens granted amnesty or guestworkers imported via the new “Y” “temporary worker” program can claim the Earned Income Tax Credit, which “will cost taxpayers billions in just 10 years.”

Flaw No. 9

“Affidavits from friends” are acceptable as evidence of satisfying requirements for amnesty, thus “invit[ing] fraud and more illegal immigration.”

Flaw No. 10

“In-state tuition and other higher education benefits…will be made available to current illegal aliens that are granted [amnesty], even if the same in-state tuition rates are not offered to all U.S. citizens,” a violation of current Federal law, which “mandates that educational institutions give citizens the same postsecondary education benefits they offer to illegal aliens.”

Flaw No. 11

New visas are created for individuals who are prone to overstaying their period of authorized admission – namely, the new “parent” visa, which allows parents of citizens, and the spouses and children of new temporary workers, to visit a worker in the United States. Not only is this term “a misnomer, but also an invitation for high rates of visa overstays” because it “specifically allows the spouse and children of new temporary workers who intend to abandon their residence in a foreign country, to qualify to come to the U.S. to ‘visit.’”

To obtain the visa, one must only post a $1,000 bond, “which will be forfeited when, not if, family members of new temporary workers decide to overstay their 30 day visit. Workers should travel to their home countries to visit their families, not the other way around.”

Flaw No. 12

To be granted amnesty, illegal aliens need not pay back all income taxes.

Flaw No. 13

Social Security credits for work done while in the United States illegally will be granted to “[a]liens who came to the U.S. on legal visas, but overstayed their visas and have been working in the U.S. for years, as well as illegal aliens who apply for Z visa status but do not qualify.”

Flaw No. 14

“The criminal fines an illegal alien is required to pay to receive amnesty are less than the bill’s criminal fines for paperwork violations committed by U.S. citizens, and can be paid by installment,” which means that “the fine for illegally entering, using false documents to work, [is] one-tenth the fine for a paperwork violation committed by a government official.”

6 posted on 06/27/2007 2:51:13 PM PDT by henbane
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To: Baladas

41 is a magic number. Let it be the number that votes “No” on Cloture.


10 posted on 06/27/2007 3:07:07 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Confidence in Congress has hit an all-time low of 14%)
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11 posted on 06/27/2007 3:07:41 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: Baladas
People are livid at they way the Senate is dismissive of our concerns. Senators' attitude is: "We'll teach those bigot, racists and nativists a lesson. We'll force them to accept amnesty for their own good." They can try to do that but they will never win our consent for their trampling with lawlessness over the overwhelming desires of the American people.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

15 posted on 06/27/2007 3:12:34 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Baladas
Here is a list of the key staff contacts of the “Amnesty 8” Senators that are most likely to be persuaded to vote no on Thursday and derail amnesty. Many offices are putting calls straight to voicemail and they can just trash faxes (and letters take weeks to get through due to security). Hit Hill staff where they are so codependent - their Blackberries! Send email directly to staff - not just the generic Senate office mailbox. Contact their Chief of Staff, Legislative Director, and Press Secretary. Make your voice heard!!

For the Democrats, I would strongly suggest taking a pro-union/anti-illegal alien stance (i.e. “they are taking our jobs”) rather than using the conservative national security angle.

Senator Ben Nelson (D-NE)
Chief of Staff
tim_becker@bennelson.senate.gov

Legislative Director
christiana_gallagher@bennelson.senate.gov

Press Secretary/Communications Director
david_dimartino@bennelson.senate.gov

Senator Mark Pryor (D-AR)
Chief of Staff
bob_russell@pryor.senate.gov

Legislative Director
andy_york@pryor.senate.gov

Press Secretary/Communications Director
michael_teague@pryor.senate.gov
lisa_ackerman@pryor.senate.gov

Senator Jim Webb (D-VA)
Chief of Staff
paul_reagan@webb.senate.gov

Legislative Director
mike_sozan@webb.senate.gov

Press Secretary/Communications Director
jessica_smith@webb.senate.gov

Senator Kit Bond (R-MO)
Chief of Staff
brian_klippenstein@bond.senate.gov

Legislative Director
kara_smith@bond.senate.gov

Communications Director
shana_marchio@bond.senate.gov

Senator Sam Brownback (R-KS)
Chief of Staff
glen_chambers@brownback.senate.gov

Domestic Policy Advisor
brian_robertson@brownback.senate.gov

Press Secretary/Communications Director
john_rankin@brownback.senate.gov
brian_hart@brownback.senate.gov

Senator Richard Burr (R-NC)
Chief of Staff
alicia_peterson-clark@burr.senate.gov
alicia_peterson-petersonclark@burr.senate.gov

Legislative Director
natasha_hickman@burr.senate.gov

Press Secretary/Communications Director
laura_caudell@burr.senate.gov
mark_williams@burr.senate.gov

Senator Norm Coleman (R-MN)
Chief of Staff
jennifer_lowe@coleman.senate.gov

Deputy Chief of Staff
lucia_lebens@coleman.senate.gov

Legislative Director
lorianne_moss@coleman.senate.gov

Communications Director
tom_steward@coleman.senate.gov
tom_stewart@coleman.senate.gov

Press Secretary
leroy_coleman@coleman.senate.gov

Senator John Ensign (R-NV)
Chief of Staff
john_lopez@ensign.senate.gov

Legislative Director
pam_thiessen@ensign.senate.gov

Press Secretary/Communications Director
tory_mazzola@ensign.senate.gov
jack_finn@ensign.senate.gov
don_tatro@ensign.senate.gov

16 posted on 06/27/2007 3:14:01 PM PDT by caphillbabe
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""It's going to be a rough ride," said Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., an architect of the bill. "We're in trench warfare.""

Yep, against your own party base and constituency.
17 posted on 06/27/2007 3:26:42 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Baladas
"The process has not been a pretty one," said Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala.

God bless him. I know he's doing his best. That's not the simile I would have used, but he is a politician still.

25 posted on 06/27/2007 5:31:02 PM PDT by HoosierHawk
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To: Baladas; All

Just say NO to Illegal Alien Amnesty!! Keep calling!! It’s NOT OVER!!

U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121

U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121

White House comments: (202) 456-1111

Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep

Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

Toll free to the US Senate:

1-800-882-2005. (Spanish number)
1-800-417-7666. (English number)

Courtesy of a pro-amnesty group, no less!!


26 posted on 06/27/2007 5:37:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: Baladas

Conservatives call the measure too lenient toward unlawful immigrants, while liberals say it could rip apart families and doom guest workers to exploitation at the hands of unscrupulous employers.

No one asked them to come here to begin with...It is Mexico’s problem about unemployment in their country ,not ours!


28 posted on 06/27/2007 7:55:15 PM PDT by angelcindy (I'm a Fed up Red (republican))
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To: Baladas

As I have said all along, the fix is in on this bill. Outside of a very few Senators that are genuinely against this sell out, the rest are all lying and posturing. This bill was and is a done deal, at least in the Senate. Mitch McConnell (Weasel, KY) could have thrown up procedural roadblocks, I believe. The coward couldn’t dredge up the nads to oppose the bill. His mealy mouthed excuse that he had to “listen to the debate” is just so much chicken crap. Anyone with half a brain knows that no amount of amendments can fix this Amnesty Sellout. Anyone with 1/4 brain knows that the way this is being run through is proof in itself that this is a royal screw job to this country. Ipso facto, this is proof that these Senators (and Mr. Bush) pushing this bill are traitorous scum. IMO, street walkers are morally superior to these low lifes.

If FReeper Jorge is reading this, remember, I stand by my desire to tar & feather Bush and his traitorous compatriots in the Senate. Strip them naked then tar & feather them and run their sleazy butts down Pennsylvania Avenue at high noon.

It is high time for some serious civil disobedience in this country.


29 posted on 06/27/2007 8:20:20 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: Baladas
All Rove's plan. Get the American people riled up about an issue. The Dims will vote for the the bill, and the Republicans will step up at the last minute and vote it down. Dims will lose next election because of this fiasco. RINOS will be voted out of office. Goodbye Lindsay!! Rove is a genius........
31 posted on 06/27/2007 9:25:04 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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