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Jailed for waving at my daughter (UK)
Daily Mail UK ^ | 6-26-07 | JENNY JOHNSTON and RACHEL HALLIWELL

Posted on 06/27/2007 8:35:19 AM PDT by Bladerunnuh

'On my first night in jail I shared a cell with a murderer,' he says. 'It was so intimidating. The next few weeks just blurred into one long nightmare. Every waking hour I pined for my girls, wondering if I would ever see them again.

'When I got out, the nightmare continued. It took another year for me to convince the courts I should be allowed to see them at all. Life was an endless round of court hearings. It was a wretched existence. Time and again I'd be facing a new judge and having to re-tell the story. To me, it was a matter of life and death, but to them, it seemed I was just another pushy, undeserving father who was trying to interfere in his former wife's life.

'I was so messed up by it all that I had a vasectomy to ensure I couldn't find myself in that position again.'

Finally, five years after the separation, Mark was granted permission to see his daughters. He was excited about the

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: divorce; fatherrights; fathersrights; judiciary; uk; waving
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1 posted on 06/27/2007 8:35:21 AM PDT by Bladerunnuh
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To: Bladerunnuh

Cute woman


2 posted on 06/27/2007 8:36:27 AM PDT by wastedyears (Check my profile for links to anti-illegal immigration T-shirts.)
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To: Bladerunnuh
You put the least informative part of the article in the excerpt. It made no sense with the headline you posted.

Here is the preface from the website:

Denied access to his three children after his divorce, Mark was jailed for standing outside his house to wave to them. It took ten years and 133 hearings before they were reunited. How CAN the Government insist cases like his are kept secret?

3 posted on 06/27/2007 8:39:16 AM PDT by t_skoz ("let me be who I am - let me kick out the jams!")
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To: wastedyears

If you read the article, Mum’s a monster. The court system — judge after judge — was worse, as it abetted her.


4 posted on 06/27/2007 8:39:52 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really needed?)
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To: t_skoz

It sounds like he violated a no-contact order. It’s not clear why there was a no-contact order in the first place, so it’s hard to decipher what realy has been going on.


6 posted on 06/27/2007 8:40:47 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Bladerunnuh

I’d like to hear the other side of the story.


7 posted on 06/27/2007 8:43:34 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Bladerunnuh

The horror stories I’ve read about some guys in divorce situations would make any logical man get a vasectomy.

Oh, and don’t even think about saying “It can’t happen to me” because it CAN! I’ve seen long-lasting relationships turn on a dime.

Guys can be real pricks, but some womenare just pure psycho!


8 posted on 06/27/2007 8:43:58 AM PDT by Clam Digger
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It’s not clear why there was a no-contact order in the first place,...

Looks to me like the "no-contact order" was granted because the psycho ex-wife claimed that the daughters were upset by their father waving to them.

9 posted on 06/27/2007 8:45:10 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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Hmmm ... resembles some US family courts. Though usually payoffs to certain lawyers that happen to play golf on Fridays with the judges does the trick.


10 posted on 06/27/2007 8:45:34 AM PDT by Sir Hailstone (Graduate of the Archie Bunker School of Conservatism)
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To: camle
I’d like to hear the other side of the story.

Let me guess - you've got an "open mind".

11 posted on 06/27/2007 8:46:17 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Clam Digger

Yes, but according to the story, she came back after 2 months of separation, and he started the divorce work. I don’t know, maybe he could have taken her back then, at least for the girl’s sake. I’d do everything I could, in order to keep my kids, although I realize some people are VERY difficult to live with.


12 posted on 06/27/2007 8:46:36 AM PDT by Bladerunnuh
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To: DuncanWaring
Looks to me like the "no-contact order" was granted because the psycho ex-wife claimed that the daughters were upset by their father waving to them.

Sounds like it, but I learned long ago that there are sometimes two sides to a story, and this article only gives his side. So, I remain without an opinion on this particular case.

13 posted on 06/27/2007 8:47:41 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: VfB Stuttgart

LOL! Who’s asking?


14 posted on 06/27/2007 8:47:48 AM PDT by herMANroberts
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To: Bladerunnuh
I’d do everything I could, in order to keep my kids,

I tried that, too. It's really only re-loading the gun, and giving her more chances to slime you.

At least if you do it early on, you can get visitation.

16 posted on 06/27/2007 8:53:39 AM PDT by Clam Digger
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all we have here is his version.

taken another way, he constantly stalked his ex, hanging around her house at all hours, trying to turn the kids against her, timeing his activities to be there when he was more likely to contact them. he wouldn’t leave her alone.

there’s another side to this that we aren’t seeing.


17 posted on 06/27/2007 8:58:02 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Bladerunnuh
'I love both my parents; I always will. But I will never get my childhood back. It is gone for ever.'

This is the real casualty of divorce. The day it happens the children stop being children.
18 posted on 06/27/2007 8:58:56 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Romans 10:9)
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"I tried that, too. It's really only re-loading the gun, and giving her more chances to slime you. ". Oh, I hear you, just a shame that people don't take the time to find out if the person they're marrying is loopy or not. Only takes 3 or 4 dates I think. But sure, every now and again, you get a zinger thrown at you from left field.
19 posted on 06/27/2007 8:59:37 AM PDT by Bladerunnuh
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To: VfB Stuttgart
Yeah, I’m gettin’ married reeeeeeal soon. /s

Stories like these are something every single man should think long and hard about before making so huge of a decision.
20 posted on 06/27/2007 9:00:20 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Romans 10:9)
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