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Chimera embryos have right to life, say bishops (Part animal part human children)
Telegraph, UK ^ | 6-26-07 | Jonathan Petre

Posted on 06/26/2007 10:28:56 AM PDT by Bladerunnuh

But the Catholic bishops of England and Wales, in a submission to the Parliamentary joint committee scrutinising the draft legislation, said that the genetic mothers of “chimeras” should be able to raise them as their own children if they wished.

The bishops said that they did not see why these “interspecies” embryos should be treated any differently than others.

The wide-ranging draft Human Tissue and Embryo Bill, which aims to overhaul the laws on fertility treatment, will include

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Technical; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: bioethics; chimera; chimeras; embryos; england; genetics; personhood
You know what? With the way things are going--- why not?... (okay, the Amnesty vote has me very discouraged, so sue me)
1 posted on 06/26/2007 10:28:58 AM PDT by Bladerunnuh
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To: Bladerunnuh
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Can't we just all get along?

2 posted on 06/26/2007 10:31:47 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Bladerunnuh
"You know what? With the way things are going--- why not?... (okay, the Amnesty vote has me very discouraged, so sue me)

Heck, I'm going to bed I'm so depressed. Maybe I'll wake up and it was a bad dream.

3 posted on 06/26/2007 10:33:24 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border then, Introduce an Illegal Immigrant Deportation Bill)
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To: blam

I hope our new Chimera Overlords are conservative at least. Maybe they’ll build a border wall out of Kryptonite. Sweet dreams


4 posted on 06/26/2007 10:34:42 AM PDT by Bladerunnuh
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To: Bladerunnuh; martin_fierro; Lazamataz; Tijeras_Slim; bd476

C’mon...

Just think of it as like the island of Dr. Moreau....


5 posted on 06/26/2007 10:39:11 AM PDT by Experiment 6-2-6 (Admn Mods: tiny, malicious things that glare and gibber from dark corners.They have pins and dolls..)
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To: Experiment 6-2-6

5 posts and no Helen Thomas?
This site is slipping...


6 posted on 06/26/2007 10:40:24 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: Bladerunnuh

I hope the bishops were at least sober enough to point out that it is immoral in the extreme to create such “chimeras” in the first place.


7 posted on 06/26/2007 10:43:41 AM PDT by Antoninus (P!ss off an environmentalist wacko . . . have more kids.)
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To: 8mmMauser

Personhood ping....


8 posted on 06/26/2007 10:51:37 AM PDT by TheSarce ("America is NOT what's wrong with this world." --Donald Rumsfeld)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Everyone is too much in a bother about the Senate Vote..

No time for levity....


9 posted on 06/26/2007 11:00:40 AM PDT by Experiment 6-2-6 (Admn Mods: tiny, malicious things that glare and gibber from dark corners.They have pins and dolls..)
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To: Bladerunnuh

I say, Only if they are sentient.


10 posted on 06/26/2007 11:02:33 AM PDT by Clock King (Bring the noise!)
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To: Clock King
This is a tricky problem because I really can't come up with a point at which I can say "This far but no further". If we put a human gene in a pig so it produces human insulin instead of pig insulin (if there is a difference), then it is still a pig and should be treated as such. If we take a baboon and put enough human genes in it so it produces a kidney that is close enough to a human one to be transplanted, I would still say it is an animal.

If we were to take a human embryo and put some animal gene in it so that it is immune to some disease, then I would say that it is still human. I don't quite know where along that line I would split human vs. non-human. Morally I have no problems with any of the three examples I have given.

I don't know if I would agree with sentience as a test because I could see scientists producing human beings with only brain stems but none of the higher parts of the brain to use for parts. That would be immoral.

11 posted on 06/26/2007 11:34:11 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (A base looking for a party.)
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To: Bladerunnuh
Uh-oh...and I thought that “pit bull lawyer” was just an advertising slogan.
12 posted on 06/26/2007 11:36:52 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: KarlInOhio

I like that at least you are thinking about it. I wish more people would. I’m afraid our politicians will just pick arbitrary “guidelines” that may sound good in theory, but in practice...? Add to the mixing of genetic material, cybernetic implants, and we have real problems. Ghost in the Shell 2 and some of the other works by the same artist/author deal very very heavily with the idea of “what is the boundary line between human and non-human?” The future will by very chaotic for a while.


13 posted on 06/26/2007 12:39:35 PM PDT by Clock King (Bring the noise!)
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To: KarlInOhio
Frankly, I'm more worried about diseases jumping species, thanks to this "innovation".

Heck, I'm concerned about use of other than human body parts in people maybe doing the same thing.

There's lots of science fiction that has various views on the chimera-like and/or clone "problem".

Ethics, really, but ethics went out the door on July 18, 1969 in this country.

14 posted on 06/26/2007 12:53:32 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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