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John Edwards (D-NC) predicting big second-quarter drop-off (in campaign contributions)
The Hill ^ | 6/22/07 | Sam Youngman

Posted on 06/24/2007 12:49:26 PM PDT by Libloather

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"There are two Americas. Those that will give me money, and those who won't."
1 posted on 06/24/2007 12:49:29 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Yep 2 Americas. Which one does he live in?

I know it’s old news but the Kerry/Edwards ticket got only 44% of the vote in his home state of North Carolina. And his being southern didn’t pull over any southern states to the ticket. I never understand just who or where is his political base? and never understand why Kerry picked him as Veep. As we see he sure didn’t help the ticket carry any states.


2 posted on 06/24/2007 12:53:01 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Libloather

The scary thing about Edwards, of all of the candidates who originate from the legislative branch, he has the highest ACU rating.


3 posted on 06/24/2007 12:55:59 PM PDT by Perdogg (congratulations - you have just won an ipod nano)
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To: Libloather

John Edwards is keeping a good eye on fundraising efforts an poll numbers. I think that once it gets closer to the primaries and it’s clear he hasn’t a snowball’s chance, he will withdraw in order to “support his wife through her ordeal.” That way, he gets the sympathy of the naive, and avoids the taint of being a two-time loser. Anyone want to make a wager with me?

I hate to think this about anyone, but he probably jumped up and clicked his heels when Elizabeth’s cancer came back, because it gave him a Plan B.


4 posted on 06/24/2007 1:02:27 PM PDT by mrs. a (It's a short life but a merry one...)
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To: mrs. a

Ditto.

He should have dropped out of the public limelight the minute his wife’s diagnosis was reported, if he were any man at all.


5 posted on 06/24/2007 1:06:43 PM PDT by yorkie
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He should have dropped out of the public limelight the minute his wife’s diagnosis was reported, if he were any man at all.

Absolutely. The man is a selfish SOB.

6 posted on 06/24/2007 1:14:50 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

His “Southerness” didn’t pull over anyone because Kerry was at the top of the ticket. People don’t vote for Vice-Presidents, they vote for Presidents. Now, they might actually vote against a ticket because of who the VP is (I think 2000 was a case of this), but they’ll never vote for it.

I am convinced Edwards is going to win, because well, Edwards is worth a hell of a lot more money than Hillary or Obama, you may criticize how he earned it, I certainly do, but the fact is, he did work for his money, and Edwards is a much more dangerous opponent than you realize. I am under the impression he has a nine-figure net worth, what this means is, unlike say, Hillary or Obama, he can self finance a large portion of his campaign. Kerry actually forwent federal funding in 2004. At one point, he had taken out a mortage against his house to keep the campaign alive.

Edwards is going to be our opponent, and the only way we can beat him is if we have our own Southerner at the top of the ticket.


7 posted on 06/24/2007 1:20:38 PM PDT by AzaleaCity5691
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To: Dilbert San Diego
I never understand just who or where is his political base?

Two groups: plaintiff's attorneys, and liberal Jews from Broward County who would punch a ballot for Pat Buchanan if they thought he was the democrat candidate.

8 posted on 06/24/2007 1:23:44 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Cobra64

That may be, but........when Mrs. Wallace died, it helped out George in ‘68, and to a degree, it was helping him in ‘72 before he got shot, even after he had married his new wife.

I doubt the lack of fundraising has anything to do with his wifes cancer, and if you read the same article I did, you’d see that he still outraised everyone else. I suspect Edwards is going to come back on top with an idea from Chris Dodd. Edwards can’t be the darling of liberal college students because well, he’s not an Ivy Leaguer and he actually talks about work. Obama is the liberal student candidate. What Edwards has to do is come up with a proposal to convince rank and file labor types still in the party to go with him, and I think he’ll steal an idea from Dodd and Biden in form of the national service crap.

National Service is going to be a big issue in this election, and I think that will be Edwards ticket to the nomination.


9 posted on 06/24/2007 1:25:20 PM PDT by AzaleaCity5691
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To: Libloather

Time for another announcement of illness in opie’s family.


10 posted on 06/24/2007 1:41:11 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (The Islamists plan to kill us.The Democrats and the ratmedia are helping them. Ft Dix proves it!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
He's trailing Obama in his native state of South Carolina.

I know a few Democrats here in Raleigh, and I can't find one who's excited about Edwards. I haven't seen a single Edwards for President bumper sticker on the streets here, though I've seen several for Obama.

Edwards has the dubious distinction of being too phony and empty-headed even for the Democrats to vote for.
11 posted on 06/24/2007 1:58:51 PM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country. Friend of Fred.)
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To: AzaleaCity5691

Go Ron Paul! :-)


12 posted on 06/24/2007 2:18:53 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: mrs. a

John Edwards is a “Two Time Loser, Runnin’ Out of Juice!”


13 posted on 06/24/2007 2:29:48 PM PDT by Tulane
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To: AzaleaCity5691

Actually, he and Hillary have reported about the same net worth — $51,000,000. Bill brings in a boatload to the Clinton household.


14 posted on 06/24/2007 2:31:22 PM PDT by Tulane
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To: AzaleaCity5691
Edwards is going to be our opponent, and the only way we can beat him is if we have our own Southerner at the top of the ticket.

Oh stop it! Edwards could not even get re-elected as Senator in his own state.

15 posted on 06/24/2007 2:39:16 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Libloather

John Edwards said the war on terror was a “bumper sticker slogan” So John, here is a bumper sticker for you:”Edwards believes in Two America’s Neither is giving money to him.”


16 posted on 06/24/2007 2:43:37 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: AmericaUnited

North Carolina is not a monolith for the whole South, and actually, while conventional wisdom says he would have been defeated for re-election, that’s actually a question that can never be successfully answered becuase well, he never ran for re-election.

It’s not North Carolina I’m worried about. It’s Arkansas, West Virginia, Kentucky, and even Virginia. Northern Virginia is actual national Democratic, and that state has become a more razor thin margin with each election. West Virginia is still the biggest union state in this country, Bush won by the hair of his teeth in 2000 and in 2004 he had the benefit of having a yankee elitest at the top. West Virginia is by no definition a Republican state. Arkansas is actually a Democratic state, the state’s business community still gives more to Democrats than Republicans as a rule. If Gore had been running against a Northerner, he would have narrowly won his home state, Arkansas and probably West Virginia, and hence, the election. Gore also probably might have just squeaked by if he had not picked a CT Jew as his running mate. In general, a Democratic voter is more likely to be anti-Semitic than a Republican voter, and that hurt Gore

It was hard to peg Clinton as a liberal because he took enough moderate stances that, when combined with well, his accent and background, against northern opponents, allowed him to hold states like Louisiana. Now, given certain changes in Louisiana, it’s highly unlikely the Democrats can win that state presidentially unless Breaux runs.

Or to put it another way, Bush became President in 2000 because of what state he was from, and his accent, because all logic said, 2000 should have been a Democratic year, because we had not had the economic shocks yet, nor 9/11 or anything else.

I also have a particular concern about South Carolina. Now, all logic says South Carolina is not at risk at all. Of the all the Deep South states, it was the first with a Republican legislature. But, it still kept electing Fritz, and they always have a few Democratic statewide officials, like their education commissioner. And the other reason I worry....what had once been the lynchpin of Republican strategy in South Carolina, Charleston County. Bush only beat Kerry by 3 points in Charleston County, and I suspect without the old money in downtown Charleston, he would have lost it. The Democratic candidate against DeMint in 2004 won Charleston County. The other thing with South Carolina is that NAFTA absolutely killed the economy in that state. It used to be entirely textile based, and well, those jobs are all gone. Then the people who held all those jobs went to work for the video poker parlors, and then the state supreme court took those away, at one point in the early part of the decade, some former textile counties had unemployment rates approaching 20%

Edwards may be a liberal on say abortion, but, he’s actually never really taken a strong stand either way on guns, and well, to alot out of uneducated, out of work, textile workers, he may be able to articulate a message that can sell to them.

He is dangerous, and as for Obama, only reason Obama is doing well is because the white vote is split right now, and that number actually means trouble for him, because the SC presidential primary is about 50% black. If he’s only polling 33% and you assume he has some white support, that means at best, he may only have half of the black vote.

I still say Edwards is the toughest opponent and we should assume he will be nominee.


17 posted on 06/24/2007 3:09:17 PM PDT by AzaleaCity5691
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Northern Virginia is actual national Democratic, and that state has become a more razor thin margin with each election.

Yep!

However, we are also infested with illegals, and the voters are starting to get pissed off.

A colleague at work told me about how she heard an "older" gentleman talking with the sales clerk at a local auto shop about "the illegals taking over" in a not-so-nice way, and mind you, this was in Fairfax County, a liberal cesspool.

18 posted on 06/24/2007 3:16:24 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * wahoo wa! ... U.Va. Engineering '09)
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To: Libloather

Maybe folks figure he should just use some of his pirate booty....


19 posted on 06/24/2007 3:17:33 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: AzaleaCity5691

I think Edwards would be trouble as well. I thought he would be more prominent at this point, however. It seems his message is a bit too “third world.” What I mean, is that it seems his main campaign theme is taking on abject poverty, which in the states, really isn’t an issue for 95% of the country. Moreover, people in abject poverty tend not to vote.

Despite what the MSM would have us believe, the middle class in the US has never been stronger...he should be targeting them with a message — not a “Two Americas, Hey look at me I work for the Southern Poverty Law Center” schtick.


20 posted on 06/24/2007 3:36:23 PM PDT by Tulane
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