[sirchtruth]

So yes, they tend to think smoking marijuana, having an abortion and owning a gun ought to be decisions left up to the individual.

...And that's the point. If those things are left up to individuals with no sense of "responsibility" then you have anarchy, a crumbling society...that would be the ultimate end game to libertarianism.

You can not truly have a "FREE" society without standards and accountability. Libetarians don't seem to know history very well and those societies that allowed the "freedom" with no consequences to do these things and how it torn them apart and how they failed miserably.

I think this gets into more of a right/wrong argument on morales than anything else.

[goldstategop]

Social conservatives would say legal coercion is necessary to buttress moral order. Libertarians would say people already observe a moral code - they have done that for thousands of years and the government has never been very good as a moral teacher. When you think of what politicians do, their own conduct discredits the idea of government as agent for moral good.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[radioman]

Libetarians don't seem to know history very well and those societies that allowed the "freedom" with no consequences to do these things and how it torn them apart and how they failed miserably

Name one.
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