Posted on 06/23/2007 1:28:02 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
(AP) SALT LAKE CITY -- Mitt Romney said Saturday that criticism of his Mormon religion by rival GOP presidential campaigns is happening too frequently.
Clearly, any derogatory comments about anyones faiththose comments are troubling. The fact they keep on coming up is even more troubling, Romney said during a fundraising trip in the home state of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
The Mormon church is one of the fastest-growing religions and claims about 12.5 million members worldwide. But many evangelical Christians in crucial primary states such as Iowa and South Carolina consider the faith a cult.
Romneys remarks follow an apology from GOP rival John McCains campaign for comments about the Mormon church allegedly made this year by a volunteer.
Also recently, Republican presidential hopeful, Sen. Sam Brownback of Kansas, issued a similar apology for a campaign workers e-mail to Iowa Republican leaders that was an apparent attempt to draw unfavorable scrutiny of Romneys religion. Former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani apologized after the New York Sun noted that a campaign aide had forwarded to a blogger a story about unofficial Mormon lore. Legend has it that a Mormon would save the Constitution, the story said. The campaign aide passed the story along with a note: Thought youd find this interesting.
Romney said in a large presidential race there always will be some volunteers or workers who cannot be controlled. But he said the difference between derogatory comments that originated from the McCain campaign and others is that the Arizona senator has not personally apologized to him.
In the case of Senator Brownback and Mayor Giuliani ... they called immediately. They each spoke with me personally. I dont have any issue with that at all, Romney said.
He said McCain can do whatever he feels is the right thing. Theres no need for me to suggest how people respond to things that go on in the campaign.
Tucker Bounds, a McCain campaign spokesman, said the McCain campaign has already apologized.
Its a very sincere apology. There is absolutely no place for those type of comments in our campaign, he said.
Romney, a former governor of Massachusetts, said he had not spoken with McCain since the last presidential debate, on June 5.
Romney used a fundraiser hosted by Utah Jazz owner Larry Miller to criticize the McCain-Feingold campaign finance law. It banned unregulated, unlimited contributions from corporations, unions and wealthy individuals to national political parties and federal candidates.
The bill ought to be repealed, he said. Its been the wrong course for American campaigns.
Romney said he favors unlimited donations as long as they are immediately disclosed on the Internet.
Romney was attending fundraisers in Salt Lake City and in Logan on Saturday.
Would you simplify that list to those
martyrs who were armed and attacked
during their martyrdom please? I couldn’t
determine that from your posting.
“AMPU, a martyr is a person who chooses to suffer or die rather than give up his faith or his principles”
This presumes that a person was going to suffer
or die for what they believed, versus being dealt
rough justice for trying to demand other’s wives
and denying other’s First Amendment Rights.
Sorry, different. The fact Smith had no conscience
about what he had done says volumes about his
character.
ampu
Mitt will be VERY leery of appointing any Mormons to high positions. His religion is enough in the limelight and unless there is not another person equally qualified, he will simply not do that.
This is the reason Huntsman Jr. is supporting McCain and not Romney. Huntsman has bigger aspirations than just Gov. I have this info from a former staffer of Huntsman.
“OOOH, I love multiple choice. But you left off the last one, and the one that some 13 million chose for their test.”
... you do realize that more than 13 million
choose Jehovah’s Witness truth - another
cult America gave to the world. So numbers
mean nothing as a basis of truth.
So what you are saying is that the “13 million” mormon member
number is bogus?
I’ll pm you about my Mayflower ancestor.
Why wasn't the sacrifice consumed in fire as per usual? Why was it divided like that?
Good question. Perhaps this reference can shed further light:
Jer. 34:
18 And I will give the men that have transgressed my covenant, which have not performed the words of the covenant which they had made before me, when they cut the calf in twain, and passed between the parts thereof,
19 The princes of Judah, and the princes of Jerusalem, the eunuchs, and the priests, and all the people of the land, which passed between the parts of the calf;
Ah, so we have a tie that is several centuries old. Isn’t that amazing.
But being a descendant of the Mayflower doesn’t make us any more American than if our parents had immigrated (legally).
Every natural born citizen of the United States is evey bit as American as the next, right?
I think this is your new mantra, calling us apologists, at least the last few hundred posts of yours do that. That's fine, do what you will, and caution all you can. It makes no difference. I know in whom I have trusted, the Lord Jesus Christ, and I make no apologies for worshiping Him as my God and my King.
Great post, Your grandfather sounds like a wonderful man, Freemason and all. And again, yes I am an apologist, and will continue to be, so label me all you want.
Mitt's wife Ann was also an Episcopalian before joining the LDS Church, btw.
That seems the rule of thumb here.....
Here ya go:
http://www.watch.pair.com/mason.html
Wasn't it you who accused me a few months ago of deceitfully being one and the same as Delphi? Bahahahaha right back!
I can trace my ancestors back to folks who greeted the first French explorers to the Great Lakes region...
They were here before the Mayflower was a ship.
You didn't mention that persons who were baptized LDS and whom are unable to be found by the church records department are carried on the rolls as "members" until they reach the age of 109. Of course, we all know that mormons are very long-lived.
LOL! Long lived because of their Word of Wisdom. They are soooooo much better than the rest of us. Just ask them. ;-)
There IS room for doubt. Especially since unlike most churches, a member can't just say "I quit" and be taken off the rolls...they must either resign formally or be excommunicated. As in the case of my family members, they simply don't bother.
Also see post #2154.
Ah so, you are a Lamanite! How wonderful. lol
Since we have been labeled anything from "anti-mormon" to "bashers" and worse, why do you find the apologist label offensive"?
From Wikipedia, Christian apologetics is the field of study concerned with the systematic defense of Christianity. The term "apologetic" comes from the Greek word apologia, which means in defense of; therefore a person involved in Christian or Bible Apologetics is a defender of Christianity.
I suppose we COULD find a label that is similar to the ones used against us.
Bodewadmi ndaw.
Megwetch,
It’s greek to me! :-)
Panguitch backatcha.
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