Posted on 06/22/2007 6:49:42 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
If you are referring to Spier’s F-18, I believe it was brought down with a SAM.
I think we'd better pray this is one decision that will not be left up to the State Department...
Yeah...I’m not liking the possible scenarios that this could play into....and I know you know what I mean.
The initial report said it was a SAM, which then changed to the MiG-25 story. Odd that the Iraqi propaganda machine didn't talk about it. An Iraqi pilot shooting down a USN F/A-18 would have been useful for them.
However, perhaps, if true, the Iraqi MiG was then shot down by one of our jets and never got a chance to talk about it? Or perhaps, if true, it wasn't an Iraqi pilot, but rather a Russian pilot in the MiG and couldn't talk about it? Or, maybe it was a friendly fire mistake and we shot him down in the confusion of battle and we don't want to talk about it?
As they say, "the truth is out there"...whatever it may be.
I believe your analysis is correct. They simply could not afford to have Israel kick their teeth in again.
The Archer & the Israeli Python-4 were the best AAMs in the world till about 2000,after which the US fielded the AIM-9X variant of the Sidewinder,which is on par if not better.Having said that,numerous similar missiles have been developed by Israel,the Europeans & we don’t know whether the Archer has been upgraded as well.
Yes, I’ve heard the Python is very good.
The Israeli F-16C and F-15Cs are armed with Python 4 and now Python 5. Like the A-11/R-73 Archer, this is a helmet-sited all aspect missile capable of firing more than 180 degrees off the axis of the fighter. However the Israeli missiles are newer. The Python 4 has a range of 20km, 5km more than the A-11. The Python 5 could be the most advanced IR missle on earth. With a range of 25km, it recognizes the IR signature and image or the opposing fighter, rather than locking onto a heat source.
Even the F-104 Starfighter got f***ed by the Mig 21s in the Indo-Pak wars ;)
The F-104 is a good analogy for the MiG-25/31. It was a high speed interceptor, not really a dogfighter.
Besides, Indian pilots flying Cesnas could outfly the PAF.
I believe it. Intercepting a MiG-25 is not what the F-16 does best.
bump
Also, don’t forget that Russia is going to deploy PAK-FA next year. The PAK-FA looks like an F-23.
It does not matter which pieces of overrated russian junk the iranian cowards fly. They would be swept from the sky by either USAF or IDF pilots.
What migs and what war are you talking about? During Korea, we countered the Mig15 with the Sabre Jet(F86), and it had a 10 to 1 kill ratio over the Mig15. During Vietnam we screwed up because we used planes that didn’t have guns, and they couldn’t compete with the obsolete Mig17s the North Vietnamese had, but we fixed that and we developed the F15 eagle. This plane has never been shot down in combat and knocked the crap out of Migs during the first gulf war. It is still unbeatable and now we have the F22 Raptor if Bozo doesn’t decide we don’t need aircraft to fight a war, the way Clinton did when he decided to destroy a whole shit load of B52s.
I’m sorry. Why are you commenting on a post I made TWO YEARS AGO?
I thought this was the thread about Russia buying more mig29 for their nonexistent navy
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