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President George Bush is my hero
Chicago Jewish Times ^ | 6-15-07 | Golda Shira

Posted on 06/21/2007 6:45:17 PM PDT by SJackson

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To: SJackson

Mine too, senorita.

201 posted on 06/22/2007 8:58:57 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: ClancyJ
One point - if we got the fence and someone climbed over, under, blew it up or whatever - just what do we do then.

The fence Israel built is working fine!

A fence will work, but only if the government actually wants it to!

Same for enforcing immigration laws.

202 posted on 06/22/2007 9:06:31 AM PDT by airborne (Airborne - Ranger - Vietnam veteran! Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: ClancyJ

Make a statement and stop eating, that will teach them.

Pray for W and Our Troops


203 posted on 06/22/2007 9:44:19 AM PDT by bray (The co-clintons freed more bombers then they caught)
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To: ClancyJ
Betrayal is such a strong word; did he betray you, really? -Did he...
-Has he...

Much of your list is redundant, in that it highlights Bush's actions on different aspects of the same issues.

Yes, his foreign policy has been pretty good. I say "pretty good" because of a couple of glaring problems. He refuses to follow his own rhetoric in terms of "those who sponsor terrorism", vis a vis Syria and Iran. "Say what he means and mean what he says?" It was an empty threat, and now everyone knows it. We're fighting the problem too far downstream. Since the actual source of the war is not Iraq, I think the conflict has been dragged out by refusing to attack the true problem.

-Did his state department lean hard on Israel after they had been brutally attacked with hundreds of rockets, essentially telling them not to hit the Islamists too hard in response? Yes. (A bit of a mixed message, wouldn't you say?)

On domestic policy, Bush's record is mixed.

He pushed tax cuts, yet presided over and promoted staggering increases in the size and reach of government. To wit:

-Did he push the "No Child Left Behind" act? Yes. (Still looking for Constitutional authority to regulate education...)
-Did he create the Department of Homeland Security? Yes.
-Did he create the Transportation Safety Administration, piling a huge, frustrating, ineffective bureaucracy onto American air travelers? Yes. ...at the same time that our borders are flashing neon "Welcome!" signs to anyone who cares to cross.
-Did he push the "Prescription Drug Benefit" (Medicare, Part D), significantly increasing the present and future burden of the Federal Government on taxpayers' wallets? Yes.
-Did he ever veto even a single appropriations bill, regardless of the staggering level of pork in it? No.

-Has he steadfastly refused to effectively enforce the law (of, by and for the people) with regard to immigration? Yes.

It doesn't take a 100% deviation to equal a betrayal. A father may continue to be kind to his children and provide his family with a home and food, but if he has an affair with another woman, he has betrayed his family. Bush is having an illicit affair with Mexico, and deriding Americans for daring to complain. Even if he's doing other things right, that's still betrayal.

204 posted on 06/22/2007 9:47:49 AM PDT by TChris (The Republican Party is merely the Democrat Party's "away" jersey - Vox Day)
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To: GoreNoMore
The text reads:

THE PLANE WAS CHARTERED EITHER BY THE SAUDI ARABIAN ROYAL FAMILY OR OSAMA BIN LADEN

And JW uses phrases like "probably". So it is pure speculation on the part of JW. It has been widely reported that those planes carried Bin Laden family members who had no contact with Osama, but were scared of retaliation because of their last name, so I am sure that the last name of Bin Laden probably did show up on the charter records. I can't find the info now, but I remember reading that one of the Saudi Princes was the one that initiated these flights and that no one in the Administration above Richard Clarke was aware of them at the time, Clarke admitted that. Finally, IMHO, JW hasn't had any credibility in a long time.

205 posted on 06/22/2007 9:51:24 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: airborne

True - but Israel does things for their salvation as they are surrounded by enemies.

We have not seen that we are surrounded by enemies yet.


206 posted on 06/22/2007 9:59:24 AM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: ClancyJ
Also, look at the fence that Duncan Hunter had built in San Diego.

It cut crime, drugs and illegals crossing drastically.

BEFORE

AFTER

There is no doubt that a fence is an integral part of a secure border.It is the first step, not the only one!

207 posted on 06/22/2007 12:34:22 PM PDT by airborne (Airborne - Ranger - Vietnam veteran! Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: Tribune7
You have to give Dubya credit for trying and he was never sneaky about his intent.

Exactly. Bush has been clear on his position since his first term.
And he was re-elected.

Which is why these calls to try him for treason, tar and feather and impeach him just amaze me. Where have these people been?

208 posted on 06/22/2007 4:49:31 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: ravingnutter

Does your definition on credibility change with what the individual is working on. This information was in the report, he was honest enough to place both options in the title of the article. How does that lack credibility? When he attacked Hillary and Bill for their wrongdoing he had alot of credibility but when he finds something that was hidden, that should be displayed and discussed, he now lacks credibility.

It seems that the word credibility is the loser in this exchange. Diluting the word because of an emotional response does not change the fact that the terms either OBL or Saudi were used in the report released by the Freedom of Information Act and that they themselve had to go to court to remove redaction.


209 posted on 06/22/2007 4:55:19 PM PDT by GoreNoMore
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To: airborne
That is true. No question about that.

Thanks for your service, brother. Welcome Home!

210 posted on 06/22/2007 4:57:57 PM PDT by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?" --Greg Adams--Brownsville, TX --On the other Front Line)
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To: Jorge
Which is why these calls to try him for treason, tar and feather and impeach him just amaze me.

They certainly don't seem to be thinking things through. Dubya has been a pretty decent president.

211 posted on 06/22/2007 5:06:20 PM PDT by Tribune7 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
It's amnesty for illegal aliens.

"We have consistently supported a legalization program which is both generous to the alien and fair to the countless thousands of people throughout the world who seek legally to come to America. The legalization provisions in this act will go far to improve the lives of a class of individuals who now must hide in the shadows, without access to many of the benefits of a free and open society. Very soon many of these men and women will be able to step into the sunlight and, ultimately, if they choose, they may become Americans." ...Ronald Reagan.

We all love Reagan and someday GWB will get his due respect I hope.

212 posted on 06/22/2007 5:13:22 PM PDT by AmusedBystander (Republicans - doing the work that Democrats won't do since 1854.)
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To: DrDeb
Most of the rational thinkers at FR have either been bullied into silence or left for more hospitable climes.

I agree. More than once I've received email support advising me to stop wasting my time on these FR threads and directing me to some of these "more hospitable climes".

It's easy to see why the anger, hostility and just plain meanspirited tone of these threads drives rational thinkers away.

Unfortunately I've always found it fun arguing with inarticulate hot-headed neanderthals..

I say "unfortunately" because I am trying to discipline myself.

And the challenge is to remain cool and rational while making my points without getting sucked into the name-calling and personal insults.

213 posted on 06/22/2007 5:19:34 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: SJackson

I loved this. He is my hero as well, no matter how much he is detested here and elsewhere. He has the courage of his convictions, rare these days.


214 posted on 06/22/2007 5:21:07 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Jorge
I say "unfortunately" because I am trying to discipline myself.

You're doing fine amd making good points.

215 posted on 06/22/2007 6:00:26 PM PDT by Tribune7 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet)
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To: ladyinred

Can’t anybody disagree with the president without being accused of detesting him? Good grief!


216 posted on 06/22/2007 6:05:21 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (DUNCAN HUNTER '08 (I'll add Thompson if he ever decides to enter the race))
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To: TChris
Bush is having an illicit affair with Mexico, and deriding Americans for daring to complain. Even if he's doing other things right, that's still betrayal.

America's been having an "illicit affair with Mexico"...and LONG before Bush ever moved into the White House.

Bush is just being realistic about it.

217 posted on 06/22/2007 6:07:53 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: AmusedBystander
We all love Reagan and someday GWB will get his due respect I hope.

I have the greatest admiration for RR. Truly a great man and a great President. However, I don't believe his statement can be construed as a plug for open borders. And when he made that statement he was not referring to 12-20 million people. Nor was he advocating that each illegal bring in every bloody relative up to and including 3rd cousins.

Nor were we experiencing an explosion of dangerous diseases brought in by these illegals when he was in office. He was an advocate of controlling our borders, and said just that.

No offense, but I am very tired of the argument that controlling OUR borders, enforcing OUR laws and protecting OUR citizens somehow demonstrates a lack of compassion. There is nothing compassionate about turning the United States into a larger northern version of Mexico. And make no mistake, that is precisely what will occur in the long run.

218 posted on 06/22/2007 7:04:12 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: airborne

But, all they have to do is go farther east to where there is no fence.

I don’t have a lot of confidence in a fence if the people monitoring it are not allowed to arrest, stop, or even shoot at those breaking the law.


219 posted on 06/22/2007 10:23:28 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: CAluvdubya

****Can’t anybody disagree with the president without being accused of detesting him? Good grief!****

YOur question/statement is a powder puff to answer.

MANY of US disagree with President Bush on the Illegal Immigration Issue (and have repeatedly so stated), who are the ones arguing with those like you, and we are the same ones calling a spade a spade when we see hateful, demeaning, anti-Bush rhetoric used to ruin every thread. Those are the ones we call for their despicable remarks, NOT someone who merely “disagrees with Bush”.

We ALL know it when we see it, and we will NOT be silenced and cowed into pretending it hasn’t ruined this site, not to mention trashed this President.


220 posted on 06/22/2007 10:26:28 PM PDT by txrangerette (Congressman Duncan Hunter for POTUS...check him out!!)
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