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14 U.S. troops killed in Iraq in 48 hours
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Posted on 06/21/2007 7:33:11 AM PDT by ruschpa

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To: leadpenny
Attempting to justify the casualties of one war with the casualties of another war is so keyboard warriorish.

Why? Comparing wars, including the number of casualties, gives context.

It's remarkable that we have so few casualties in a major war.

61 posted on 06/21/2007 8:46:37 AM PDT by what's up
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To: gas0linealley
The only thing that will end Islamism is a change in their thinking, not bombs or bullets

Rubbish. That belongs to the fantasy world of the dems, Code Pink and the communist anti-war crowd.

BTW how did we defeat Nazism? By bombs and bullets or the by waiting for an change of their thinking? How long are we supposed to wait for the Islamic Terrorists to change their mind? After they have nuked one of our cities?

62 posted on 06/21/2007 8:47:06 AM PDT by SolidWood (UN delenda est.)
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To: jveritas

Couch comfy....?


63 posted on 06/21/2007 8:47:53 AM PDT by dakine
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To: SolidWood
The only thing that will end Islamism is a change in their thinking, not bombs or bullets

HA I was thinking of a good nuking!

God bless our Military.

64 posted on 06/21/2007 8:48:01 AM PDT by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM")
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To: gas0linealley; PigRigger
gas0linealley

We are not fighting in Iraq for the Iraqis, we are fighting for our freedom and our way of life and those of our children, grandchildren, and for many generations to come.

What will happen if we leave before we achieve victory?

The terrorists whether they are Al Qaeda or the Iranian and Syrian terrorist regimes or a combination of all of them will not only control Iraq but the whole Middle East and with it come consequences to the US and the West that is worst than our most horrible nightmares. The islamic terrorists will be emboldened beyond imagination. The islamic terrorists will use the hundred of billions of dollars from oil revenues to conduct terrorists attacks that are hundreds of folds more horrible, more deadly, and more destructive than the 9/11 terrorists attacks, including the use of nuclear weapons. They will also use the oil weapon to blackmail the Western and the world economy for many years to come.

If some terrorists dwelling in camps in Afghanistan with a limited budget and few volunteers were able to do 9/11 terrorist attacks, killed 3000 people and caused one trillion dollars in economic losses, imagine the incredible horrors that the terrorists can inflict on us if they control the whole Middle East and it vast revenues.

Any person who has a shred of patriotism and a basic common sense will realize that we simply cannot afford to leave Iraq before we defeat terrorism there.

65 posted on 06/21/2007 8:48:29 AM PDT by jveritas (Support the Commander in Chief in Times of War.)
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To: leadpenny
Sarcasm is cute...but lets cut to the chase...

Please explain to us simple folk how an Iran and/or Al-Queda controlled Iraq serves our nations best interests both now and in the future?
66 posted on 06/21/2007 8:48:36 AM PDT by PigRigger (Donate to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org - The Troops have our front covered, let's guard their backs!)
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To: gas0linealley

Christianity survived being “crushed” because the entire message of Christianity is love and the triumph of love through suffering. Christians did not take up arms against the Romans: they went humbly to the arenas and were hideously tortured and killed. They triumphed because they kept the Faith, suffered and died, time and time again, and finally the message impressed the rest of the world enough so that their tormentors saw it and were converted. Christians never killed anyone.

Islam is the only world religion that makes warfare a fundamental part of its beliefs. It is the only one that, from the start, has declared warfare and the sword to be a legitimate means of “conversion.”

While I suspect that its ultimate defeat will be through the power of Christian love, in the meantime, societies that wish to protect themselves from it can do so only one way: through meeting the sword with the sword. Islamism will only be driven off, if not actually ended, with bombs and bullets.

If Islam calms down and decides it just wants to talk, fine; we are not attacking it. But Islam has had 1400 years to calm down and has never done so, and I’d say the possibilities of having it do so now are just not very good.


67 posted on 06/21/2007 8:48:36 AM PDT by livius
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To: PigRigger

Agree 100%.


68 posted on 06/21/2007 8:48:50 AM PDT by jveritas (Support the Commander in Chief in Times of War.)
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To: jveritas

Don’t waste your time arguing with the Maureen Dowd freepers.


69 posted on 06/21/2007 8:49:09 AM PDT by pissant
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To: ruschpa
Boots on the ground without overwhelming numeric superiority is the ultimate of military waste of manpower. Iraq [as Iran war advocates now assert] could have been completely controlled by air and sea power. We can control any country in the world with air and sea power coupled with a missile defense system. Boots on the ground is obsolete. It went out the window after WW II when we were willing to put 15,000,000 in uniform to achieve the necessary superiority. It is just as stupid to keep them there as it was to go in.
70 posted on 06/21/2007 8:49:39 AM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: what's up

Casualties are not a measurement of whether or not a mission is being accomplished.


71 posted on 06/21/2007 8:50:53 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny
Casualties are not a measurement of whether or not a mission is being accomplished.

Well, that's quite obvious.

72 posted on 06/21/2007 8:51:52 AM PDT by what's up
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To: PigRigger

“If we should leave Iraq before the Iraqi’s can deal with this issue themselves we, as a nation, will be facing a much more dangerous conflict down the road....”

With a few minor word changes your statement could be used to justify open ended welfare.

As long as we are willing to be the Iraqi’s free police force, what incentive do they have to take that responsibility upon themselves?


73 posted on 06/21/2007 8:52:09 AM PDT by gas0linealley (.good fences make good neighbors)
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To: PigRigger

That’s quite the straw man. I don’t remember helping to build it.


74 posted on 06/21/2007 8:53:35 AM PDT by leadpenny
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75 posted on 06/21/2007 8:54:13 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: ruschpa

A U.S. soldier of the 2nd brigade, 23rd infantry regiment is covered in sweat during a patrol in southern Baghdad, Iraq, on Wednesday, June 20, 2007. (AP Photo/Petros Giannakouris)

A picture released by the US military, 20 June shows US soldiers moving down a neighborhood street in Baquba, during Operation Arrowhead Ripper. At least 41 insurgents have been killed in the past two days by US-led troops in an assault on Al-Qaeda networks in the restive province of Diyala, northeast of Baghdad, the military said Thursday(AFP/US Army/Armando Monroig)

Residents stand among Iraqi soldiers securing a neighbourhood in Baquba, 65 km (40 miles) northeast of Baghdad June 20, 2007. Picture taken June 20, 2007. REUTERS/Helmiy al-Azawi (IRAQ)

76 posted on 06/21/2007 8:55:23 AM PDT by TexKat ((Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.))
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To: jveritas

You failed to mention Saudia Arabia’s role in terrorism. You know, the folks that Bush and Clinton are so cozy with.


77 posted on 06/21/2007 8:55:55 AM PDT by gas0linealley (.good fences make good neighbors)
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To: what's up

Thank you.


78 posted on 06/21/2007 8:56:44 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Diogenesis

Could you post that photo of Bush holding hands with the Saudi sheik, while they were on a date?


79 posted on 06/21/2007 8:57:52 AM PDT by gas0linealley (.good fences make good neighbors)
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To: dakine
Couch comfy....?

Don't know how his is, but mine is.

I'm too old and retired to go off to war again. Not too old and retired to toss my cookies reading some of the defeatist stuff being posted in this thread.

Nor am I too old and retired to support my son and his generation as they cycle in and out of places like Iraq and Afghanistan.

80 posted on 06/21/2007 8:59:02 AM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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