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Government-run health care IS NOT the answer. Why? Because it would further insulate the health care industry from answering to the consumer. It converts the health care system into a monopoly. And it would introduce rationing, waiting times and eliminate real health care choice. Now THAT's sicko.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

1 posted on 06/20/2007 10:16:49 PM PDT by goldstategop
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Additionally, the high salaries tend to attract the “best and brightest”. If you take away the financial incentive for medical professionals (which offsets the *years* of costly training), you’ll end up with a shortage of healthcare workers and, at the same time, a surplus of people lining up for “free” healthcare.


2 posted on 06/20/2007 10:25:08 PM PDT by Triggerhippie (Always use a silencer in a crowd. Loud noises offend people.)
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3 posted on 06/20/2007 10:28:50 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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Government-run health care IS NOT the answer.

I certainly agree. I will accept government subsidized premiums for PRIVATE healthcare insurance for the very poor. (Universal health care.)

But no more going to the emergency room instead of the doctor. And don't even bother going to the hospital without insurance. If you get hit by a car and don't have insurance -- who's supposed to pay for that?

If sick people show up without insurance, they should thrown out to die in the street. It's cruel, I know. But, what's the alternative? The broken system we already have.

We must stop caring for poor (or negligent) people who do not have insurance (including their kids and preemies) -- or we will ruin our health care system and drive costs even higher.

4 posted on 06/20/2007 10:32:45 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty
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My prediction is that sicko isn’t going be anywhere near as big as F911. America’s healthcare system is still by far the best in the world. Nothing comes close and most americans know it.
Michael Moore released F911 and became the leftists darling claiming it would cause Bush to not get re-elected. Liberals rushed out to see it and gave Michael Moore two hundred million dollars in box office reciepts and dvd purchases. Well Bush won the re-election and Michael Moore disappeared for years. Then it came out that he owned engergy companies like Haliburton in his stock portfolio.
I bet the fat communist has owned the stocks of for-profit healthcare companies as well.
Even the dimbulb leftists are starting to catch on that they have been scammed by a limousine communist.


6 posted on 06/20/2007 10:34:30 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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We need to simplify the whole medical system. Pay as you go and cut out the freebies for the indigent and illegal.


10 posted on 06/20/2007 10:41:07 PM PDT by television is just wrong (Amnesty is when you allow them to return to their country of origin without prosecution.)
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i agree. socialized medicine would be a socialist’s dream, the end of a free market;

and a feminist dream, the curtailment of judeo-christian culture.

with this said, our current medical system SUX.

you wouldn’t believe what a doctor did to my father recently, or another surgeon did to a friend, or a store clerk’s failed operation by a surgeon.

a medical license is a license to steal and maim and kill.


11 posted on 06/20/2007 10:43:37 PM PDT by ken21 (tv: 1. sells products. 2. indoctrinates viewers into socialism.)
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Those who favor a government run program seem incapable of understanding that it creates a “blob” that soaks up a large chunk of money appropriated for health care. If people think that HMOs are inefficient and arbitrary, wait until they have toe deal with a bureaucracy twice as numerous.
12 posted on 06/20/2007 10:44:36 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHOa)
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Let me put it to you this way. Does the average American family spend more money on food or health-care insurance? The answer, of course, is food. Now, why is it that food costs are not skyrocketing like health-care costs? The answer is because food producers and retailers have to answer directly to the consumer. Health-care providers do not.

This is specious. You're not going to walk into the grocery store one day and be told you need $100,000 worth of green beans if you want to keep living.

14 posted on 06/20/2007 11:06:35 PM PDT by dr_lew
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The answer is regulation of Health Insurance companies who profit mightily off the middle class.


15 posted on 06/20/2007 11:08:58 PM PDT by pankot
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Is there any way we can get Mexico to pay for the care of its nationals over here, most of who aren’t even supposed to BE here. I’m jolly sure that if the situation was reversed, Mexico would insist on the baksheesh or el gringo is tossed out in the street.


18 posted on 06/21/2007 12:13:31 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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So, another way to look at this equation is to say 90 percent of the population has made responsible choices with budgets to make health insurance a priority.

For how many of them is health coverage optional in their employment? Whatever their virtue may be, the rest are simply lucky.

19 posted on 06/21/2007 12:19:40 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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Government-run health care IS NOT the answer. Why? Because it would further insulate the health care industry from answering to the consumer. It converts the health care system into a monopoly. And it would introduce rationing, waiting times and eliminate real health care choice. Now THAT's sicko.
Well most Americans have all of those already thanks to HMOs. Or they wait in the ER instead and cost the tax payer even more.

I'm conservative on most things, but the best health care I ever got was socialized medicine in Japan. Cheapest too.
20 posted on 06/21/2007 1:42:05 AM PDT by ketsu
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The true 500 pound gorillas are lawyers!

The true cost of medical care is inflated thousand of times by all the lawsuits, doctors insurance, and test done to prevent lawsuits.

Also, the high sugar, low fiber, low vitamin and mineral diet that most of us are on, don’t help the problem.


23 posted on 06/21/2007 2:10:14 AM PDT by liliesgrandpa (The Republican Party - spineless!)
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Milton Friedman had a proposed solution to the USA’s health care. In summary, it provided:
1) Eliminate Medicare and Medicaid;
2) Provide catastrophic coverage for all Americans with a high deductible;
3) The deductible gap would be the individual’s choice based on the free market. Coverage would be more affordable since the catastrophic coverage would be covered by Government.
4) Eliminate government tax and other subsidies for health insurance.

The result would eliminate a huge bureaucracy engaged in price controlling by Medicaid and Medicare. Individuals could shop for medical care like the do for many things on the Internet (not in place when Friedman proposed this). Individuals would have more control.

30 posted on 06/21/2007 6:08:53 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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34 posted on 06/21/2007 7:49:13 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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Furthermore, I know some of those people – perhaps as many as 1 or 2 percent – are very wealthy. They don't bother with health insurance.

I didn't bother with health insurance for several years, and I wasn't particularly rich.

41 posted on 06/25/2007 2:55:59 PM PDT by opus86
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