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To: goldstategop
Government-run health care IS NOT the answer.

I certainly agree. I will accept government subsidized premiums for PRIVATE healthcare insurance for the very poor. (Universal health care.)

But no more going to the emergency room instead of the doctor. And don't even bother going to the hospital without insurance. If you get hit by a car and don't have insurance -- who's supposed to pay for that?

If sick people show up without insurance, they should thrown out to die in the street. It's cruel, I know. But, what's the alternative? The broken system we already have.

We must stop caring for poor (or negligent) people who do not have insurance (including their kids and preemies) -- or we will ruin our health care system and drive costs even higher.

4 posted on 06/20/2007 10:32:45 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty
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To: Sleeping Beauty
I agree one should pay for one's care. But at the same time no one is going to deny a person whose's life is in danger emergency medical care. No one should be left to die for the means or lack of being able to pay. But for all other treatment, yes, arrangements for payment can be made between the provider and the patient.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

7 posted on 06/20/2007 10:37:11 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Sleeping Beauty

But, what's the alternative? 

Solve the problem... Is that too much for you to grasp?

The broken system we already have.

Medicare, Medicaid and the eight hundred pound gorilla, the FDA. ...Solve the problem. Free market competition best serves individuals and civilization. Price discovery is critically important to the market. The more freedom the market has to compete the more accurate and efficient price discovery becomes. Initiation of force, -- for the most part foisted on business of all sizes via government regulations -- oppresses free competition. Force causes the market to lose its transparency  Government has a monopoly on the initiation of force. Which for the most part government officials apply it in the interest of government, not the citizens and their businesses, markets and communities. 

Also, for the most part citizens have allowed and sometimes welcomed the destructive (albeit camouflaged) government invasion of corruption foisted on the people's businesses, markets and communities by federal, state and often local governments. 

If... no, when the people wake up to that realization, watch out!

The "natives" are growing increasingly restless. They're poised to get up in a lot of people's faces and shine spot-lights of honesty on their corruption, frauds, lies, spin and deceptions.

16 posted on 06/21/2007 12:03:44 AM PDT by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: Sleeping Beauty

wow...how christian of you. A real culture of life you’re displaying there.


25 posted on 06/21/2007 4:04:21 AM PDT by TINS
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To: Sleeping Beauty
Nah, we don't have to throw people in the street to die.

In the 'olden days' (like pre LBJ) there were things called 'Charity Hospitals' where the poor went. But now there's no need for them when the gubmint is picking up the tab at the Mayo Clinic for sore throats and hangovers.

End Medicaid and Charity Hospitals will re-appear.

31 posted on 06/21/2007 6:09:42 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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