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Democratic Candidates Moving Left (Rally base now, lose in 2008?)
ABC News ^ | June 18, 2007 | RICK KLEIN and TEDDY DAVIS

Posted on 06/19/2007 1:39:30 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

As the Democratic presidential candidates gather in Washington to make their pitch to party activists this week, "liberal" is suddenly no longer a dirty word.

In recent months, virtually the entire Democratic field has tacked left -- not just on the Iraq War, but on health care, taxes, energy issues and gay rights. In each of those areas, much of the field is standing to the left of where Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., stood in 2004, when President Bush lampooned Kerry as a "Massachusetts liberal."

"They're responding to the reality of the primaries, where the center of gravity is far to the left of the electorate as a whole," said Erik Smith, a Democratic consultant who is not affiliated with any of the 2008 candidates. "The discussion with the greater American public is just getting started. They have plenty of time to define themselves, but you don't come all the way back to the center."

For Candidates, Shift Most Pointed on Iraq

The shift has been most striking on Iraq, where none of the Democrats support President Bush's current strategy. In sharp contrast to 2004, when several candidates remained supportive of the war mission, the disagreements among the Democratic presidential candidates now extend only to how best to bring an end to the war.

A year ago, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., was roundly booed at the Take Back America conference when she stated her opposition to setting a deadline for troop withdrawal. When Clinton addresses the same gathering of 3,000 progressive activists Wednesday, it comes shortly after she reversed course and voted to cut off funding for the troops as a means of ending the war.

"She comes to this conference I think in a very different posture," said Robert Borosage, co-director of the liberal Campaign for America's Future, the group that is organizing this week's conference.

Appeal to Liberal Base Could Cost Them Independent Votes With polls showing a substantial majority of voters ready to support a Democrat next year, the party as a whole appears to be in a good position to reclaim the presidency after two terms of Republican control. The party is animated in large part by its animus toward Bush, making the left feel like friendly terrain for candidates.

But some observers say that the candidates' zeal to appeal to the party's liberal base could cost them in the general election with the independent-minded voters they'll need to win.

That is a particular concern for Democrats if Republicans nominate a candidate who could claim the vast middle of the electorate -- a social moderate such as former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, or a candidate with a long history of reaching out to independents such as Arizona Sen. John McCain.

Voters and Candidates

"Lots of people say, 'I want a Democrat,' but when they see the particulars, they say, 'I don't want that Democrat,'" said Jeffrey Berry, a political science professor at Tufts University. "The thing that's amazing about the Democrats is that they could still snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory. The major Democrats are all now well to the left of the median voter."

Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del., touched on this concern Sunday on ABC's "This Week." He is the only Democratic presidential candidate to have voted in favor of continuing funding for the war last month.

Biden: American Public Looking for Someone Who Can Win

"Even though the front-runners are good people and they're making a lot of news, they're still getting beaten by the Republicans [in polls], who are generically not preferred by the American public," Biden said. "They're going to be looking for someone who can win."

It's not just the war that shows the leftward tilt of the presidential field. Several Democrats are now talking about raising taxes to expand health insurance to more Americans, or to combat global warming.

All of the Democratic candidates want to reverse the ban on gays and lesbians serving openly in the military, a position that puts them at odds with all of the Republican candidates. The Democrats also want to overturn the federal Defense of Marriage Act, even though it was signed into law by Democratic President Bill Clinton in 1996.

Shift on Health Care Also Striking

An equally dramatic migration has come on health care. In 2004 Kerry offered a plan that would guarantee health coverage to all children; now, the Democrats are arguing over how best to bring universal coverage to children and adults.

"When we began this campaign the consensus on the Democratic side was that only incremental change was possible," Borosage said. "What is striking is how quickly we have made progress. So John Edwards put out a comprehensive health care plan, abandoning the question of incrementalism, Sen. Obama soon followed. Sen. Clinton has promised that she will do so over the next few weeks."

Some party strategists note that the Democratic candidates are not embracing the extreme left. No major Democratic candidate is endorsing gay marriage, single-payer health care, or an immediate and total withdrawal from Iraq -- positions that have sizeable, if not overwhelming, support among Democratic primary voters.

The Democratic Race and the Direction of the Country

Still, the Democratic candidates appear to be taking the attitude that winning the primary will virtually ensure them of winning the general election, since the country appears to be so soured on the Republican party.

"At the end of the day, it is a Democratic race. People are not happy with the direction of the country," said Chris Lehane, a Democratic consultant and a former top aide to Al Gore in 2000. "The match-ups will look very different when these other candidates come into focus."

Berry said the move to the left is in a broad sense a return to the Democratic party's roots, since the various interest groups that hold sway over the party have traditionally wanted a more liberal take on the major issues of the day.

But the candidates must balance the need to tap into activists' energy with the necessity of finding common ground with political independents.

"They'll get the Democratic base to vote for whoever the Democrats nominate, but they have to win over the independents," Berry said. "They're going to have to resist some of this leftward tug."


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So in the dem primaries you can choose between Socialists, Marxists and Maoists. Wouldn't Thomas Jefferson and Andrew Jackson be proud?
1 posted on 06/19/2007 1:39:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

See the Democrats can run as a NAZI in the primary calling for the extermination of Jews, but when the general election comes, the MSM will forget all those extremists positions and marvel at how moderate their candidate is.


2 posted on 06/19/2007 1:43:14 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not much different from the current rinos tacking right for the primaries. Rudy/Mitt/McCain.


3 posted on 06/19/2007 1:43:51 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del., touched on this concern Sunday on ABC's "This Week." He is the only Democratic presidential candidate to have voted in favor of continuing funding for the war last month.

If the surge works, which I think it will Biden will be the beneficiary.

When/if the surge works I think he could end up being a fairly strong contendor for the Dem nomination.

Even though he's an idiot.

4 posted on 06/19/2007 1:45:31 PM PDT by what's up
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“They’re responding to the reality of the primaries, where the center of gravity is far to the left of the electorate as a whole,”

Let’s use the powers of the internets to make sure that we capture every left-leaning moonbat rant as they pitch to their base. Then we can use the powers of the internets to make those views heard as the candidates and MSM make their pitch to the people in the general election.

In the past, MSM facilitated the dual standard by remaining silent. There is a different reality now.

5 posted on 06/19/2007 1:46:50 PM PDT by DBrow
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So if "liberal" is not a dirty word anymore, why did I hear an entire report on how the left is organizing much like the right did in the 80s and 90s and not here the word "liberal" once?

"Progressive" seemed to be the term, ad nauseum.

6 posted on 06/19/2007 1:47:22 PM PDT by fidelio
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Stupid is as stupid does.

In all seriousness, I don’t think these candidates are tacking left from their own views. I think they have previously expressed less left wing views in order to appear moderate. All of them want to mess with a good thing. You would think they would have learned that collectivism is evil.


7 posted on 06/19/2007 1:52:25 PM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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If the surge works...

With an election coming? No way is the surge going to be portrayed as working - regardless of facts on the ground. Then we're just back to discrediting each other's news sources. The very small number of undecideds out there have already seen that show. By November 2008 the undecideds are going to be war weary. They'll vote for the "peace with honor" candidate. Unfortunately the war won't be over but it wouldn't hurt to de-emphasize the Iraq battle. I expect a redeployment will happen, just not the way the Dems envision it.

8 posted on 06/19/2007 1:53:07 PM PDT by rhombus
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To: DBrow

Not to worry, I’m sure the VRWC (myself included) will be making “vicious, unwarranted attacks” on Hillary/Obama.


9 posted on 06/19/2007 1:53:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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"She comes to this conference I think in a very different posture," said Robert Borosage, co-director of the liberal Campaign for America's Future, the group that is organizing this week's conference.

Yeah, hunched over and slurping from the moonbat trough.
10 posted on 06/19/2007 1:55:23 PM PDT by RedSoxBatgirl
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So in the dem primaries you can choose between Socialists, Marxists and Maoists. Wouldn’t Thomas Jefferson and Andrew Jackson be proud?
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Hard to tell this is America anymore. Yes, Jefferson, et al, are rolling over in their graves. Well, I can only blame it on the voting public, because they have allowed socialist radicals to run away with our government. And it appears they still have not awaken to that fact. People get the government they deserve. If they let it happen in 2008, they will just have to learn the hard way, and we patriots and Constitutional conservatives will have to suffer the disaster the radical left will bring upon the freedoms of what is left of our Republic....


11 posted on 06/19/2007 1:55:28 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: fidelio

“Liberal” is a dirty word, so the ‘Rats abandoned it as a label in favor of “progressive,” which seems to have not picked up such a nasty connotation...yet.


12 posted on 06/19/2007 1:57:08 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis ~ No Amnesty for Incumbents * WAHOO WA! ... UVA2009 * Fred Dalton Thompson 2008)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This country is on a course for disaster.... Its like seeing the Iceberg and yet refusing to turn the ship.

What the Democrats do to the economy will be earth shattering but then someone like OBLAMA will say we all have to do our part to repair the damage that was done by Bush.

In other words this blame Bush Bandwagon is just leaving the station.

I hope the surge is successful and the President and the GOP make all the Democrats eat their positions but to tell the truty most Americans are tuned out and don’t really care anymore. The perception is solidified.


13 posted on 06/19/2007 1:57:35 PM PDT by tomnbeverly (The saddest day in America will be the day that George W. Bush is vindicated.)
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"The thing that's amazing about the Democrats is that they could still snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory. The major Democrats are all now well to the left of the median voter."

Good. Let them piss off the majority of voters in order to pander to their base. Unfortunately, I don't think that the Republican Party will be able to take advantage of such an opportunity...because they're too busy moving to the left themselves.

14 posted on 06/19/2007 1:58:21 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis ~ No Amnesty for Incumbents * WAHOO WA! ... UVA2009 * Fred Dalton Thompson 2008)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Presidential politics 101 stuff: run to the extreme....the politically unwavering party base....until you’ve got the nomination statistically wrapped up....then run as fast as you can to the middle.

Nothing new....


15 posted on 06/19/2007 2:16:23 PM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (1/27 Wolfhounds...cut in half during the Clinton years.)
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To: rhombus
"With an election coming? No way is the surge going to be portrayed as working - regardless of facts on the ground"

Want to see a magic trick? Watch the war coverage the day after Hillary is elected. Everything will be so much better, and the economy will all of a sudden be good too. The MSM will get whiplash they'll be reversing themselves so fast.

16 posted on 06/19/2007 2:56:08 PM PDT by boop (Now Greg, you know I don't like that WORD!)
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Democratic Candidates moving left

....please, by all means, keep moving left....

17 posted on 06/19/2007 3:07:28 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: boop
Want to see a magic trick? Watch the war coverage the day after Hillary is elected. Everything will be so much better, and the economy will all of a sudden be good too. The MSM will get whiplash they'll be reversing themselves so fast.

You nailed it. Happy days are here again.

18 posted on 06/19/2007 3:15:20 PM PDT by rhombus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Go for it, rats. Rename yourselves the global warming, sand-flea-protecting, anti-self-defense Marxist party. And don’t forget your Mao’s Little Red Book with your Che togs.


19 posted on 06/19/2007 4:21:07 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Doggone it. There you go giving away the VWRC top secret strategy before the battle has even been joined...........

;-)


20 posted on 06/19/2007 6:05:58 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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