Posted on 06/19/2007 12:57:34 PM PDT by PR4MRC2007
WHY ?
1. Surrender in the War on Terror
2. Destroy our healthcare system
3. Raise taxes
If socialized medicine passes, we are all dead.
Yes, but it will be a slow, lingering death while you wait fo a doctor to be available in 6 months to look at you.
they really are obsessed with control over our doctors and our bodies for some wierd reason!!!
Yeah, sure, Americans are willing to pay more taxes /sarc. The dumocrats just love to spend more of our money to buy votes from an ever expanding dependent class of citizens and resident aliens, legal and illegal.
It’s not weird at all. If Universal Health Care passes, what will you hear each and every election? “If you vote for republican so-and-so, he will take away your health care.”
Unfortunately, about half of Americans are NOT paying taxes. They are perfectly willing to vote for higher taxes. The rest of the Liberals will vote for taxes because its “fair.”
more legalized theft..wonderful /sarc
With the conservative backed (anti-union) corporate lobby backing the liberals it should go pretty smoothly. Funny how things work....
I actually agree with the left on this one. The central problem is that insurance works by pooling people of comparable risk. In free markets insurance providers will skim the young and healthy and put them into low-cost risk pools. What do you do for the old and the sick? They are put into high-cost risk pools and basically pay their own way. But few people can actually afford to do that. We would end out like the Eskimos, who put the elderly on ice floes when they got too old.
Our current solution is that we do risk pooling by job. That is a fairly random assembly. People that are too old to work go into Medicare. But I think everyone will agree that the current system - an ad-hoc mixture of free markets and government intervention - is not good. So the only market based solution I can see is to pass two laws. First, make it illegal not to have health insurance. This will force everyone to buy health insurance (the healthy often opt out). Second, force all insurance companies to accept everyone no matter how sick, and to force everyone to pay the same rate for coverage.
This will not get rid of medicaid because poor people cannot afford health insurance. So even the minimal government solution is suspiciously like universal health care via vouchers.
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WHY ?
Because, it's not fair that they have more money than someone else. To make it fair we have to take some of their money and give it to others.
From each according to his ability; to each according to his need.
Short answer: They're all Marxists who are just sure that socialism will work this time!
We should overhaul our tax system to make sure everyone pays some taxes, even if it is 1% of income, and eliminate the give-backs, such as the earned income tax credit, which only serves as a disincentive to work.
“I actually agree with the left on this one. “
What have you been smoking? What has the gov’t ever done that was efficient?
Have you seen Hillary’s 1993 version of Universal HC? That’s what their vision is. It had fines for any doctor treating someone outside his “network”. He could be fined $250,000 and jailed for 10 years. That penalty was assessed for treating out of network and all sorts of other made-up crimes.
Healthcare is not a right guaranteed by the Constitution. It’s not a function that gov’t ought to be involved with at all.
Take your ideas over to DU. You’ll find them very popular over there.
The irony is rich. How quickly liberals go from
"the gov't can't tell me what to do with my body" to
"only the gov't can tell me what to do with my body".
The truth is that it is self-destructive to continue with the present dysfunctional system as driven by HMOs, healthcare insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies whose interests are not oriented to either public health or a healthy society at all levels. Their continuation as the force behind the delivery of healthcare will ultimately result in becoming a leading component in the evolution of our society losing its middle class characteristic and taking on the nature of a Third World African or Central American division of the very wealthy and everyone else.
There’s no way liberals will want this if they think they will have to consume this “universal” healthcare.
There must be a loophole for elitists in their plans somewhere.
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