Posted on 06/19/2007 11:06:17 AM PDT by Starman417
I’m not at liberty to answer...
What did Sadam get out of the deal?
Keepin’ dis one...bump
Hung.
F*cked by the Russians.
If only that last line were really true.
Unfortunately, I don’t think it is, but I hope I’m wrong.
As much as I love him, Bush has been piss-poor at communicating with and leading the American people.
He has allowed his opponents to define him and that in turn has left him and our troops vulnerable.
If we could have only kept the support of the majority of Americans in this war on terror and pushed forward HARD, we would be finished by now. Instead we let Kennedy & Reid & Pelosi and Durbin et.al. cause us to waver.
Of course there were WMD’s...he had already used them 3 times...but the media convinced many otherwise.
I don't agree with that. The naysayers have won the propaganda war. If they found anything or a high level Syrian defects with evidence of what Iraq stored there. It would be dismissed as planted evidence and lies.
The thing that no one has explained, however, is if Saddam had a WMD program and that program was then handed over to Syria, why didn’t Saddam ever use WMDs- except back during the Reagan administration.
If he had a program, why were none ever deployed to invade Kuwait, or to defend Kuwait once occupied, or to defend Iraq once they were driven from Kuwait, or why they were never used while we kept Saddam under our thumb during the 1990’s or during the invasion this time around. If they are in Syria, why didn’t the Syrians use them against the Israelis or Lebanese Army during the hostilities in Beiruit last summer or smuggle some back into Iraq to aid insurgents.
I think if this threat ever existed it would have been deployed.
He didn’t send them to Iran. In the 1991 engagement when Saddam invaded Kuwait and the elder Bush sent in the military, I remember reading that Saddam sent his up-to-date aircraft to be temporarily lodged in Iran. Afterwards, Iran refused to give the aircraft back to Saddam.
The American people aren't capable of supporting any war for more than a few months.
We don't do long protracted war well.
Unless our leaders learn that, and actually go into devastate mode we shouldn't even start.
I think if this threat ever existed it would have been deployed.
Likely reasons that it has not been deployed:
(1) Saddam and his forces no longer had access to the WMD material to deploy it;
(2) Those who have access/custody of the WMD would not benefit by using it and/or would face extreme retaliation if they chose to deploy it;
(3) Deploying the WMD would confirm that the material WAS there and WAS secreted out of Iraq during all the wrangling with the UN;
(4) Deploying the WMD would vindicate Bush and the US and refocus the War on Terrorism against the custodian nation/states (e.g. Syria);
(5) Deploying the WMD would validate the pre-emptive strike against Iraq by showing the danger they posed and would increase the perceived importance of dealing with Iran before it achieves true nuclear warfare capability (not to mention that it would probably result in massive airstrikes that would literally wipe Damascus off the map.)
The Syrians probably believe that once Bush is gone the US resolve to respond fiercely and decisively if they deploy the WMD will have waned.
Are you serious? Saddam used WMDs on the Kurds in his own country. It does not matter when he used them, Reagan administration or not. He had them. Unless you wish to deny that he killed the Kurds using chem weapons. I'm sure the Kurds have a different take on that.
Put a little thought into this. You don't need WMDs to overrun a small country like Kuwait so you don't use them there. You don't defend Kuwait with them either because the opponents are armed with much bigger, nastier stuff than what you have. And once you are thrown out of Kuwait, you only use them as a last ditch defence when you have nothing else to lose because the opponents are armed with much bigger, nastier stuff than what you have. And when the war is not hot, you don't use them anyway.
WMDs are a big escalator and despite the fact that he was a beast, Saddam was not nuts.
AUDIO TAPE of Gen Michael DeLong, deputy of general Tommy Franks, CENTCOM commander
How the US army satellites saw trucks with Saddams WMDs driving to Syria
http://www.eyeonbooks.com/ibp.php?ISBN=0895260204
A top Pentagon official who was responsible for tracking Saddam Husseins weapons programs before and after the 2003 liberation of Iraq, has provided the first-ever account of how Saddam Hussein cleaned up his weapons of mass destruction stockpiles to prevent the United States from discovering them.
The short answer to the question of where the WMD Saddam bought from the Russians went was that they went to Syria and Lebanon, former Deputy Undersecretary of Defense John A. Shaw told an audience Saturday at a privately sponsored Intelligence Summit in Alexandria, Va. (www.intelligencesummit.org).
They were moved by Russian Spetsnaz (special forces) units out of uniform, that were specifically sent to Iraq to move the weaponry and eradicate any evidence of its existence, he said.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/2/18/233023.shtml?s=lh
Ask Israelis. They received Scuds in 1991.
If Scud is no WMD, please let me know what really is.
and the war was won!!!!
Maybe Reedi and Peeoso need a personal plunge of similar flavor to modify their opinions!
If he had a program, why were none ever deployed to invade Kuwait, or to defend Kuwait once occupied, or to defend Iraq once they were driven from Kuwait, or why they were never used while we kept Saddam under our thumb during the 1990s or during the invasion this time around. If they are in Syria, why didnt the Syrians use them against the Israelis or Lebanese Army during the hostilities in Beiruit last summer or smuggle some back into Iraq to aid insurgents.
I think if this threat ever existed it would have been deployed.
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This statement is light weight in logic. We told Saddam if he use WMD’s in Kuwait, we would turn Bagidad into shinny glass.
You need to read up on the backdoor communications that goes beyond the news the general sheep feeding level citizen sees.. IE MSM.
If he had a program, why were none ever deployed to invade Kuwait, or to defend Kuwait once occupied, or to defend Iraq once they were driven from Kuwait, or why they were never used while we kept Saddam under our thumb during the 1990s or during the invasion this time around. If they are in Syria, why didnt the Syrians use them against the Israelis or Lebanese Army during the hostilities in Beiruit last summer or smuggle some back into Iraq to aid insurgents.
I think if this threat ever existed it would have been deployed.
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This statement is light weight in logic. We told Saddam if he use WMD’s in Kuwait, we would turn Bagidad into shinny glass.
You need to read up on the backdoor communications that goes beyond the news the general sheep feeding level citizen sees.. IE MSM.
“You need to read up on the backdoor communications that goes beyond the news the general sheep feeding level citizen sees.. IE MSM.”
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Ahhh, see I didn’t know that we had threatened to put Saddam on super secret probation. Now it all makes sense.
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