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1 posted on 06/19/2007 11:06:23 AM PDT by Starman417
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I’m not at liberty to answer...


2 posted on 06/19/2007 11:11:20 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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What did Sadam get out of the deal?


3 posted on 06/19/2007 11:12:43 AM PDT by Augustinian monk
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Keepin’ dis one...bump


4 posted on 06/19/2007 11:15:23 AM PDT by Edgerunner (If leftists don't like it, I do. Keep your powder dry...)
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If only that last line were really true.

Unfortunately, I don’t think it is, but I hope I’m wrong.


7 posted on 06/19/2007 11:19:16 AM PDT by bolobaby
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As much as I love him, Bush has been piss-poor at communicating with and leading the American people.

He has allowed his opponents to define him and that in turn has left him and our troops vulnerable.

If we could have only kept the support of the majority of Americans in this war on terror and pushed forward HARD, we would be finished by now. Instead we let Kennedy & Reid & Pelosi and Durbin et.al. cause us to waver.

Of course there were WMD’s...he had already used them 3 times...but the media convinced many otherwise.


8 posted on 06/19/2007 11:21:25 AM PDT by Former MSM Viewer ("We will hunt the terrorists in every dark corner of the earth. We will be relentless." W 2001)
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"....Yet, the debate from those who oppose prefers to ignore evidence and pretend that fictional evidence of destruction exists. That door to reality is creaking open for the opposition, and as such it’s no wonder that the anti-war movement is shattering, the Democratic Party is spinning, and opponents to the war are confused...."

I don't agree with that. The naysayers have won the propaganda war. If they found anything or a high level Syrian defects with evidence of what Iraq stored there. It would be dismissed as planted evidence and lies.

9 posted on 06/19/2007 11:24:17 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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The thing that no one has explained, however, is if Saddam had a WMD program and that program was then handed over to Syria, why didn’t Saddam ever use WMDs- except back during the Reagan administration.

If he had a program, why were none ever deployed to invade Kuwait, or to defend Kuwait once occupied, or to defend Iraq once they were driven from Kuwait, or why they were never used while we kept Saddam under our thumb during the 1990’s or during the invasion this time around. If they are in Syria, why didn’t the Syrians use them against the Israelis or Lebanese Army during the hostilities in Beiruit last summer or smuggle some back into Iraq to aid insurgents.

I think if this threat ever existed it would have been deployed.


10 posted on 06/19/2007 11:25:06 AM PDT by berstbubble
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He didn’t send them to Iran. In the 1991 engagement when Saddam invaded Kuwait and the elder Bush sent in the military, I remember reading that Saddam sent his up-to-date aircraft to be temporarily lodged in Iran. Afterwards, Iran refused to give the aircraft back to Saddam.


11 posted on 06/19/2007 11:36:03 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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Given that there is so much evidence that Saddam’s illegal weapons, programs, documents, and equipment existed and were moved ........................

so iraq disarmed per UN agreement then, right?


23 posted on 06/19/2007 12:25:37 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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It’s been fairly obvious from the beginning of the iraq war that the WMDs were trucked to Syria, but I cannot understand why the administration hasn’t been pounding this fact into the MSM’s thick skulls for years.


27 posted on 06/19/2007 12:40:04 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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bump


29 posted on 06/19/2007 12:45:19 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
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On June 9th [2004], the UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed the Security Council about the export of Iraqi WMD, missile and nuclear components shipped out of Iraq before, during and after the invasion. As reported by MENL news service, UNMOVIC acting executive chairman Demetrius Perricos told the Council, "The removal of these materials from Iraq raises concerns with regard to proliferation risks," and said inspectors found Iraqi WMD and missile components shipped abroad that still contained UN inspection tags.

The World Tribune reported on Perricos's briefing. "He said the Iraqi facilities were dismantled and sent both to Europe and around the Middle East at the rate of about 1,000 tons of metal a month... The Baghdad missile site contained a range of WMD and dual-use components, UN officials said. They included missile components, reactor vessel and fermenters ... required for the production of chemical and biological warheads. 'It raises the question of what happened to the dual-use equipment, where is it now and what is it being used for,' Perricos's spokesman, said. 'You can make all kinds of pharmaceutical and medicinal products with a fermenter. You can also use it to breed anthrax.'"

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Retired Air Force Lt. Gen. James Clapper, head of the National Imagery and Mapping Agency, said vehicle traffic photographed by U.S. spy satellites indicated that material and documents related to the arms programs were shipped to Syria."

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"Last month Moshe Yaalon, who was Israel's top general at the time, said Iraq transported WMD to Syria six weeks before Operation Iraqi Freedom began.

Last March, John A. Shaw, a former U.S. deputy undersecretary of defense for international technology security, said Russian Spetsnaz units moved WMD to Syria and Lebanon's Bekaa Valley.

"While in Iraq I received information from several sources naming the exact Russian units, what they took and where they took both WMD materials and conventional explosives," Mr. Shaw told NewsMax reporter Charles Smith.

Retired Marine Lt. Gen. Michael DeLong was deputy commander of Central Command during Operation Iraqi Freedom. In September 2004, he told WABC radio that "I do know for a fact that some of those weapons went into Syria, Lebanon and Iran."

In January 2004, David Kay, the first head of the Iraq Survey Group which conducted the search for Saddam's WMD, told a British newspaper there was evidence unspecified materials had been moved to Syria from Iraq shortly before the war.

"We know from some of the interrogations of former Iraqi officials that a lot of material went to Syria before the war, including some components of Saddam's WMD program," Mr. Kay told the Sunday Telegraph.

Also that month, Nizar Nayuf, a Syrian journalist who defected to an undisclosed European country, told a Dutch newspaper he knew of three sites where Iraq's WMD was being kept. They were the town of al Baida near the city of Hama in northern Syria; the Syrian air force base near the village of Tal Snan, and the city of Sjinsar on the border with Lebanon.

In an addendum to his final report last April, Charles Duelfer, who succeeded David Kay as head of the Iraq Survey Group, said he couldn't rule out a transfer of WMD from Iraq to Syria.

"There was evidence of a discussion of possible WMD collaboration initiated by a Syrian security officer, and ISG received information about movement of material out of Iraq, including the possibility that WMD was involved. In the judgment of the working group, these reports were sufficiently credible to merit further investigation," Mr. Duelfer said."

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"The short answer to the question of where the WMD Saddam bought from the Russians went was that they went to Syria and Lebanon," former Deputy Undersecretary of Defense John A. Shaw told an audience Saturday at a privately sponsored "Intelligence Summit" in Alexandria, Va. (www.intelligencesummit.org).

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"We are not talking about a large stockpile of weapons," he said. "But we know from some of the interrogations of former Iraqi officials that a lot of material went to Syria before the war, including some components of Saddam's WMD programme. Precisely what went to Syria, and what has happened to it, is a major issue that needs to be resolved."

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"Two days before the war, on March 17th, we saw through multiple intelligence channels - both human intelligence and techinical (satellite,eavesdrop) intelligence - large caravans of people and things, including some of the top 55 Iraqis, going to Syria."

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32 posted on 06/19/2007 12:58:59 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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The story is simply not true.

#1 - Chemical and biological weapons leave behind chemical signatures, much like radioactive materials leave behind a signature. That’s how we found the old stuff after the first war. No traces this time.

#2 - What military dictator GIVES UP weapons as a preparation for invasion? Using WMDs against American troops would have made him a god in the eyes of Islamic militants.

#3 - Why send them to Syria? Do people who push this theory really think he thought we’d invade, overthrow him, not find any weapons and put him back in power?

#4 - If it’s even remotely true, why isn’t Bush telling people or pressing Syria on the issue? Do the people who push this think he loves watching his legacy destroyed?

This utter conspiracy nuttery is becoming our “electronic vote stealing.”


42 posted on 06/19/2007 1:53:05 PM PDT by VirginiaConstitutionalist (Socialized medicine kills.)
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Part III is on the Blog....with some interesting thoughts....


48 posted on 06/20/2007 1:33:15 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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